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[TetraxShards]

No, Hopeless is going to have Hazmat kill Laura as the "shocking!" death opener, to show they mean business with this series and establish that "anyone" can die at any moment.

I don't want this to be right, but I just know it is.

Feels bad man. =(

 

[kswiston]

Would the accounts recognize an Unlimited subscription, or is Unlimited not worth it? I've been debating on whether or not there's enough interesting back-catalog to justify a subscription...

Depends on how much you have read/are willing to read of the Marvel U. There are over 10k issues available, covering a lot of the classic runs, and most of what has been released from 2006-2010. But they seem to be slowing down the number of weekly releases (used to be 25 new books every week. This week it was down to 13), and some series take forever to update. If you are new to comics, or have been away for 5-10 years, I think the service is definitely worth checking out for a few months or a year.

 

[Owzers]

i'd wait to subscribe to MDCU until they get a dedicated app for it, which they keep saying is coming, this time around december. There is a lot of good content there though, especially if you haven't read a ton of marvel already, even despite some gaps in certain things.

 

[sca2511]

If I wanted to follow Cass' run as Batgirl, would it be better to get it in trades or singles?

 

[Deleted member 13876]

Slott's twitter page has a Spider-Man 2099 background at the moment.

 

[jon bones]

just finished jenkins/lee's Inhumans

really great trade and it helped clarify my Hickman FF re-read a bit more. next on my list:

silver surfer - requiem
sub-mariner - the depths
FF/iron man - big in japan

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Going to see Transformers tonight. So hype.

If I weren't stuck at stupid work I'd do some sketch cards to give away.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

just finished jenkins/lee's Inhumans

really great trade and it helped clarify my Hickman FF re-read a bit more. next on my list:

FF 1234 - Morrison/Jae Lee
silver surfer - requiem
sub-mariner - the depths
FF/iron man - big in japan

Thank me later

 

[B-Dubs]

Slott's twitter page has a Spider-Man 2099 background at the moment.

He's a damn troll, I swear to god. If the big rumor was that Harry Osborn would take over I give you one guess as to who would be there.

Anyway, I just read Waid's Dr Strange mini. Is there any place it's continued? I really want to know what happens next, love me some Doc Strange.

 

[Manmademan]

Slott's twitter page has a Spider-Man 2099 background at the moment.

Master Troll trophy: unlocked.

 

[purnoman3000]

Could the new Spider-man be 616 Miles Morales? or has that been contemplated already?




.

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

Could the new Spider-man be 616 Miles Morales? or has that been contemplated already?




.

If 616 Miles Morales is white, maybe.

 

[Sblargh]

Tumblr is convincing me Miles Morales is a pretty cool guy, but I don't know if I have can go back to the Ultimates universe. So much... bad stuff has happened.

 

[B-Dubs]

Tumblr is convincing me Miles Morales is a pretty cool guy, but I don't know if I have can go back to the Ultimates universe. So much... bad stuff has happened.

He's fine, they just aren't giving him enough time to grow into the role before throwing him in with the ultimates.

 

[Angelus Errare]

He's fine, they just aren't giving him enough time to grow into the role before throwing him in with the ultimates.

This

 

[slightconfuse]

Tumblr is convincing me Miles Morales is a pretty cool guy, but I don't know if I have can go back to the Ultimates universe. So much... bad stuff has happened.

read the first 12 issues of the new USM. Bendis still has it

also more people should read Marvel boy by Morrison and jg jones

Jeff parkers Agents of Atlas run. this book was to me what Captain britan was to others.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Okay that was pretty awesome.

Transformers was a bit cornier than I remember, but it was so worth it seeing it on the big screen.

Lion's theme song still kicks your ass through your face! YOUR ASS, THROUGH YOUR FACE!

I also managed to rip out six sketch cards in 75 minutes before the movie, and had 15 minutes to get there.

Hopefully Megatron, Galvatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Optimus Prime, and Hot Rod found a happy home. :3

Anything your mind can see, you can manifest physically!

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Sam Humphries is currently writing Ultimates. I was unsure of him at first but he's a total cheeseball just like I like my comic writers. Ultimates has been corny in the best way over the last couple months (screw all you Ultimate Marvel haters). That + the most amazing roster ever means I'm way on board for his take on UXF. How the fuck are any of you guys not going to read a book with mohawk Storm in it? Comic-GAF straight trippin.

I'm sure you meant to say "Spiral".

#FurryBoots

 

[Owzers]

Finished Hickman's Fantastic Four and FF. Bring on the omnibus so i can read it all straight through again and pick up on some of the stuff i'm fuzzy on.

FF/Fantastic Four and Uncanny X-Force are going to belong right next to Immortal Iron Fist, Brubaker's initial Cap run before Rebirth, and Astonishing X-Men as my favorite marvel runs.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

I want to read the rest of the Hickman run, but after the first arc the precipitous drop in the quality of the art is just offputting. Well, at least they got the issues out on time. :\

 

[Owzers]

FF had an art roller coaster of a different artist every other issue, and mostly ones that i wouldn't have asked for, but the story carried it for me.

 

[Viewt]

I want to read the rest of the Hickman run, but after the first arc the precipitous drop in the quality of the art is just offputting. Well, at least they got the issues out on time. :\

Yeah, Eaglesham leaving left the book a little wonky art-wise for a while, but they found their footing again with Epting.

 

[jon bones]

it's a real shame that the art is a little rocky on Hickman's FF sometimes but the story is so good, it almost doesn't matter.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

it's a real shame that the art is a little rocky on Hickman's FF sometimes but the story is so good, it almost doesn't matter.

Couldn't disagree more.

It's like a film where each act is directed by a different director.

Comics, despite what Western editors and Marvel/DC will tell you, need to have consistency in order for all the cylinders to fire.

Otherwise I'd rather read it as a novelization and let my imagination do the work.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Couldn't disagree more.

It's like a film where each act is directed by a different director.

Comics, despite what Western editors and Marvel/DC will tell you, need to have consistency in order for all the cylinders to fire.

Otherwise I'd rather read it as a novelization and let my imagination do the work.

Agree

 

[jon bones]

i'm with you 100%, but in this particular case the strength of the story does carry the run. and the art is only occasionally inconsistent, not bad throughout.

i mean, i can't think of a single god-tier run that has consistent art throughout. sometimes you gotta compromise, especially if you read comics. it's a shame but it's the reality of the situation.

 

[Mac the KNife]

Couldn't disagree more.

It's like a film where each act is directed by a different director.

Comics, despite what Western editors and Marvel/DC will tell you, need to have consistency in order for all the cylinders to fire.

Otherwise I'd rather read it as a novelization and let my imagination do the work.

This is true.

 

[krypt0nian]

i'm with you 100%, but in this particular case the strength of the story does carry the run. and the art is only occasionally inconsistent, not bad throughout.

i mean, i can't think of a single god-tier run that has consistent art throughout. sometimes you gotta compromise, especially if you read comics. it's a shame but it's the reality of the situation.

FF worked for me as a whole, despite the differing artists. After all the best run in all of comics had tons of different artists.

 

[Pie and Beans]

The Dragotta "everyone has special needs" style almost rendered FF unreadable to me, which is a shame as it had some great story content.

Those few Stegman F4 issues at the end were a joy though. I'm gonna be pissed if Stegman isn't illustrating a Parker Spidey and some new douchebag instead, since at least Kaine/Scarlet Spider had Parker DNA! Don't want him tied to some reviled "retcon this crap immediately" run.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

i'm with you 100%, but in this particular case the strength of the story does carry the run. and the art is only occasionally inconsistent, not bad throughout.

i mean, i can't think of a single god-tier run that has consistent art throughout. sometimes you gotta compromise, especially if you read comics. it's a shame but it's the reality of the situation.

This just speaks to age and changes in the market. If you grew up in an era where every artist was a pretty little princess, not a commercial artist, then you're used to four/six issue runs at best. Back in the day Marc Silvestri could crank out bi-weekly issues of Uncanny X-Men for instance.

The current state of Marvel and DC is more in line with the first 15 years of Marvel and DC, where the mandate was more on getting the books out at all costs.

Sadly I suspect the awareness of not having a long term, or vested interest in your work-for-hire jobs at Marvel and DC has eroded the foundation of illustrators willing to commit to lengthy runs on books anymore.

 

[BlueScrote]

He's fine, they just aren't giving him enough time to grow into the role before throwing him in with the ultimates.

That's because USM is the only redeeming aspect of the ultimate universe at this point.

 

[jon bones]

Thank me later

may as well thank you now, that was great! any solid FF mini's i can throw in between that and hickmans run to show doom's change in attitude?

FF worked for me as a whole, despite the differing artists. After all the best run in all of comics had tons of different artists.

preach

 

[ViewtifulJC]

FF worked for me as a whole, despite the differing artists. After all the best run in all of comics had tons of different artists.

No, I'm pretty sure John McCrea drew all of Hitman!

 

[8bit]

No, I'm pretty sure John McCrea drew all of Hitman!

+1

 

[krypt0nian]

No, I'm pretty sure John McCrea drew all of Hitman!

Sandman, fool.

Although, I do love Hitman.

 

[WanderingWind]

We talking artists with consistency? Mike Mignola deserves much praise, even if this opinion is colored by my recent discovery of the the Hellboy comics, the art in the books (even if the writing usually devolves quickly from the initial premises) is absolutely stunning.

 

[krypt0nian]

We talking artists with consistency? Mike Mignola deserves much praise, even if this opinion is colored by my recent discovery of the the Hellboy comics, the art in the books (even if the writing usually devolves quickly from the initial premises) is absolutely stunning.

Yes, when he actually chooses to draw. =(

 

[BuddyJoeHooker]

I vote Capullo for the current most consistent artist.

 

[jon bones]

i don't think artists themselves being incosistent is as big a problem as editors changing artists mid-run, or when double shipping causes bradshaw art instead of bacchalo art

BTW i'm trying to pick a tightly scripted set of FF related books, culminating with hickmans run. sort of meant for my non comics reading buddies to get into it. i sent new x-men, astonishing x-men and uncanny x-force as a set to people and they ate that shit up. i want to do the same for FF but Hickman's run needs a bit more prefacing because people aren't as familiar with black bolt and crew as they are with magneto, etc.

double stars means i havent read/ordered them yet

**FF/Iron Man - Big in Japan
**Sub-Mariner: The Depths
**Silver Surfer: Requiem
**Waid/Weringo's FF run

The Books of Doom
FF 1234
Jenkins' Inhumans
Black Panther - See Wakanda and Die
Annihilation (sans Ronan & Super Skrull)
Hickman's Fantastic Four/FF

 

[ViewtifulJC]

If you haven't read Waid/Weringo's FF run, you should correct that mistake post-haste.

 

[jon bones]

iiiite. does it deal with the kids at all?

let's talk FF and codblops after football

 

[frye]

i'm with you 100%, but in this particular case the strength of the story does carry the run. and the art is only occasionally inconsistent, not bad throughout.

i mean, i can't think of a single god-tier run that has consistent art throughout. sometimes you gotta compromise, especially if you read comics. it's a shame but it's the reality of the situation.

Eh, a lot of the best regarded runs on comics on the last decade - things like Bendis/Maleev and Brubaker/Lark on Daredevil, Milligan/Allred on X-Statix, USM with Bendis/Bagley, PunisherMAX with Aaron/Dillon - were done by fairly consistent teams. Comics that don't have good art aren't good comics imo.

 

[jon bones]

Eh, a lot of the best regarded runs on comics on the last decade - things like Bendis/Maleev and Brubaker/Lark on Daredevil, Milligan/Allred on X-Statix, USM with Bendis/Bagley, PunisherMAX with Aaron/Dillon - were done by fairly consistent teams. Comics that don't have good art aren't good comics imo.

but runs like morrison's new x-men and hickman's FF would also be included in that list and they occasionally have sketchy art.

 

[krypt0nian]

Eh, a lot of the best regarded runs on comics on the last decade - things like Bendis/Maleev and Brubaker/Lark on Daredevil, Milligan/Allred on X-Statix, USM with Bendis/Bagley, PunisherMAX with Aaron/Dillon - were done by fairly consistent teams. Comics that don't have good art aren't good comics imo.

We're not arguing bad/good art. We're arguing consistency of artists. Obliviously bad art isn't going to make a good run.

I would argue that any run with Dillon on it is good despite the art.

 

[V_Arnold]

I am not an expert on this field (or any other, for that matter, lol ), but I always thought that Chris Bachalo is as consistent as it gets.

 

[frye]

but runs like morrison's new x-men and hickman's FF would also be included in that list and they occasionally have sketchy art.

Sure, but my point is that consistent art isn't irreconcilable with a good run of comics.

We're not arguing bad/good art. We're arguing consistency of artists. Obliviously bad art isn't going to make a good run.

I would argue that any run with Dillon on it is good despite the art.

Well, consistency is related to quality, I think. If an artist can't keep up then you can get some really iffy fill-ins or, in the case of New X-Men, fill-ins for fill-ins and Igor Kordey gets the thankless job of shitting on 22 pages in a week. But yeah, they aren't necessarily the same thing.

 

[Acid08]

I didn't like the kids in the ASM arc with the FF. I want to read Hickman's runs though.

 

[Supermanisdead]

Nope. Mark Bagley sucks.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

What do you brahs think Cornell's Now book is?

 

[ElNarez]

What do you brahs think Cornell's Now book is?

Chris Cornell presents: The Uncanny Wolverine and Soundgarden : The Rusty Cage Saga Act I