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[Cyan]

It's humorous how the Louisville move is good for ACC Football while the Rutgers move is bad for B1G football.

Let's take a look at the records over the last six years (covers a recruiting class from the start to the end of a medical red shirt):

Rutgers - 47-28.
Louisville - 38-35.

It's not rocket science, popo. The idea is that the ACC is on such weak footing that they had to do something, and grabbing lolsville, as desperate as it is, might help them out.

Where the B1G is already in great shape, and adding Maryland and Rugters seems likely to dilute the brand.

 

[andycapps]

Thinking back on that 24-23 game back in the 90's, and not holding onto that lead in 2008 :/

GSU and GT did screw up UGA's rush defense numbers, but it's still an average run defense.

I'd say that should be how Alabama attacks UGA. I'd also keep Michael Williams on the side with Jarvis Jones, if at all possible.

The rushing yards were definitely inflated by GSU and GT the past couple weeks. We play better against a pro-style rushing attack than against a triple option. Bama is going to try to establish a running attack since they run out of play action like we do. Whether it'll be successful, time will tell.

Jarvis Jones is never at the same spot. You'll see him line up at both outside linebacker spots, behind the line, etc. He gets used in a variety of looks to minimize a team's chances to key on him. You also have Jordan Jenkins on the other end, and our big NT up the middle to worry about. Doubtless, JJ will continue to be held like he has been all season and will draw a lot of double teams.

So what does Georgia have to do to beat Alabama? Besides imploring their higher power to help them?
Man, if their defense could play a whole game like they did in the first half against LSU last year. Georgia is 2-2 in the SEC Championship, Alabama is 3-4.

I hate to be the one to say "have a little faith" because I'm pessimistic as hell about any game, but it's not like we have to implore God to help us beat the mighty TIIIDE PAWLLL. LSU almost beat them and A&M did beat them this year.

Win in the trenches, especially on defense. Take advantage of Bama's weak secondary on offense.

More to it than that obviously, but if they can do that it should put them in a position to win. LSU and especially TAMU did a good job demonstrating how to beat this Bama team, and I definitely think Georgia is as capable as either of those teams.

I think it comes down to our offensive line play. If they can protect Murray, he can have a good day. If he has a good day, Gurley and Marshall will have good days too.

 

[Draxal]

It's humorous how the Louisville move is good for ACC Football while the Rutgers move is bad for B1G football.

Let's take a look at the records over the last six years (covers a recruiting class from the start to the end of a medical red shirt):

Rutgers - 47-28.
Louisville - 38-35.

(I like the 'Ville. Happy they got a parachute out. However, I do despise the fact that the media is praising this move while lambasting the Rutgers move.)

Espn all I gotta say, glad Ville got out of the conference though.

Card fans can say Kraglethorpe, Rutger fans can say Kirk Ciarocca.

Although, one can say that Rutger's scheduling was incredibly poor, I don't know enough of the Card's schedule.

 

[Sirpopopop]

It's not rocket science, popo. The idea is that the ACC is on such weak footing that they had to do something, and grabbing lolsville, as desperate as it is, might help them out.

Where the B1G is already in great shape, and adding Maryland and Rugters seems likely to dilute the brand.

Take this quote from Stewart Mandel:

It had to be particularly galling when Rutgers, with its no-better football program and cash-bleeding athletic department, received a lifeline from the Big Ten.

Yep, certainly complimentary of Rutgers there. As I pointed out, recent history indicates Rutgers has done better than Louisville on the field.

 

[jjasper]

I for one am absolutely shocked Miles got an extension and raise today.

 

[andycapps]

I for one am absolutely shocked Miles got an extension and raise today.

What, you didn't think that after turning down Michigan that he would go to Arkansas?

 

[Ganhyun]

The Bama/GA game will be a fight I think. Of course I think GA will win, but I'm obviously biased on that front.

 

[Cyan]

Take this quote from Stewart Mandel:



Yep, certainly complimentary of Rutgers there. As I pointed out, recent history indicates Rutgers has done better than Louisville on the field.

Mandel's gonna Mandel, but he's not wrong--cherry-picking w/l records aside, they're basically the same as far as on-field performance.

 

[Lonestar]

The rushing yards were definitely inflated by GSU and GT the past couple weeks. We play better against a pro-style rushing attack than against a triple option. Bama is going to try to establish a running attack since they run out of play action like we do. Whether it'll be successful, time will tell.

Jarvis Jones is never at the same spot. You'll see him line up at both outside linebacker spots, behind the line, etc. He gets used in a variety of looks to minimize a team's chances to key on him. You also have Jordan Jenkins on the other end, and our big NT up the middle to worry about. Doubtless, JJ will continue to be held like he has been all season and will draw a lot of double teams.



I hate to be the one to say "have a little faith" because I'm pessimistic as hell about any game, but it's not like we have to implore God to help us beat the mighty TIIIDE PAWLLL. LSU almost beat them and A&M did beat them this year.



I think it comes down to our offensive line play. If they can protect Murray, he can have a good day. If he has a good day, Gurley and Marshall will have good days too.

Of course they were inflated by the Triple Option teams. Without those 2 games, UGA's in the 30's nationally (instead of 69th).

I'm wondering if UGA's defense will have any ill effects have having to work so much against the Triple Option the last 2 weeks, followed by a "normal" power running/balanced passing team.

Is the UGA defense that stiffled the 104th ranked Florida Offense, the "actual" UGA defense? Not the Kentucky/Tennessee/South Carolina versions of the UGA defense?

Does the Murray from the USCe and Florida games appear? Or the one from Buffalo/MIZZ/FAU/Vandy/Tenn/UK/Ole Miss/Auburn/GSU/GT games?

 

[alstein]

And tank the football reputation of my beloved SEC? What chu smoking?

It's not that Boyd isn't a good quarterback, it's just a weird selection given the other choices out there.

Are NCSU/VT really worse than the Mississippi schools?

 

[yellowjacket25]

The UGA/Bama game in my opinion will come down to how well UGA can protect Murray. He isn't very good under pressure or against good passing defenses so he needs all the help he can get. If UGA can protect him then they have a fighting chance. If not then the game will probably be a blowout.

 

[krzy123]

It's humorous how the Louisville move is good for ACC Football while the Rutgers move is bad for B1G football.

Let's take a look at the records over the last six years (covers a recruiting class from the start to the end of a medical red shirt):

Rutgers - 47-28.
Louisville - 38-35.

(I like the 'Ville. Happy they got a parachute out. However, I do despise the fact that the media is praising this move while lambasting the Rutgers move.)

ACC isn't replacing Rutgers w/ Louisville though, they're replacing 31-43 and a team that has moved conference home games to Baltimore and Washington pro stadiums to attract visiting fans.

 

[Cyan]

Deadspin presents the Hater's Guide to Notre Dame.

You're gonna hear a lot about Notre Dame over the next month or so, particularly from media types like Tony Kornheiser who have spent the past 20 years holding back a collective tidal wave of jism, waiting for the program to return to prominence so that they can declare how good it is for college football that Notre Dame is good again. The idea that Notre Dame serves as an EKG monitor for the overall health of college football is a lie, of course. Notre Dame has sucked for decades, while college football has been growing and thriving (and will finally realize its full potential in 2014 when a national playoff begins) over the same span. Whether or not the Irish stumble their way through a handful of wins against shitty service academies to find themselves in the national title game has nothing to do with it.

Because the truth is that Notre Dame is the college football team for people who don't like college football. They're a novelty, a program designed to capture the attention of casual casual casual casual college football fans—New York-media types who believe that something is relevant only when they've deigned to pay attention to it. These are the people who say they're rooting for Notre Dame because "they're a great story," which is what you say when you're a front-running douchebag.

For the Notre Dame enthusiasts, the massive, rabid fanbases littering the SEC may as well not exist. Those schools are a provincial matter. The success and regional popularity of teams like Alabama are a constant to be taken for granted, but Notre Dame being good is something SPECIAL, something far more meaningful than your routine LSU national title. That's an SEC school, right? Where are they located? Bob Costas totally forgot.

This is why I've hated Notre Dame for years and years and years. I fucking loathe them, even though I have no business loathing them. I've never set foot on campus. I've never been personally assaulted by a Notre Dame player (though there's still time). I have friends who went to that school who I like. But still... FUCK THEM. I hate Notre Dame for the exact same reasons I hate Tim Tebow. It's an underperforming football entity with an irritating tribal gloss of holiness, which gets far too much acclaim and adulation when it happens to succeed. The Fighting Irish belong with the Red Sox, the Yankees, Twilight, Taylor Swift, and any other property that is artificially relevant because the media wastes so much fucking time telling you how relevant they are.

And now here is Notre Dame in the BCS title game, finally fulfilling the hype-driven prophecy. It's the kind of thing that gets you cheering for Nick Saban, and Nick Saban is pure shit.

So with that in mind, it's time to whip out the haterade and say terrible, awful things about all things Notre Dame related. For this Hater's Guide, we're going A to Z, McKenna style. Feel free to add your own vitriol in the comments. Now let's get to hatin'!...

Love the Lou Holtz mention.

 

[jagowar]

Interesting article by Dennis Dodd about why the Big 12 may be happy to stay at 10 teams:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-with-10-amid-the-latest-round-of-realignment

He makes some good points, but I also think he's underestimating how much new revenue the conference could bring in with new TV markets along the east coast and Florida. Those are huge population centers.

I had also never heard of this supposed "gentleman's agreement" with the SEC (that we wouldn't poach any teams from SEC territory (FSU, Clemson, GT) unless they made a move to expand further first).

To me conference networks are a game changer in terms of generating money..... the big 10 network is proving that now and the sec network will probably be even more lucrative (not just now but over the next decade). The lhn was created because texas saw this as well..... the mistake texas made was overvaluing what a single school was worth even inside its home state.

This is the one area the big12 is and will continue to be weak and if every other conference has a network that takes off it will put the big12 behind.

 

[verbum]

I hate to be the one to say "have a little faith" because I'm pessimistic as hell about any game, but it's not like we have to implore God to help us beat the mighty TIIIDE PAWLLL. LSU almost beat them and A&M did beat them this year.



I think it comes down to our offensive line play. If they can protect Murray, he can have a good day. If he has a good day, Gurley and Marshall will have good days too.

My faith in the Bulldogs is tempered by the PTSD from when Alabama came into Sanford Stadium that night and Georgia, dressed in black, had the stupidest penalties and got too much behind (2008). I was so hyped up for that game.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

So the local rag put out an article saying if UCF can't position itself for the ACC, then it should re-evaluate sports and drop them to FCS.


hahahaahha

haa

ha...........

 

[MightyHealthy]

Welcome to the ACC, Louisville. I can't believe Swofford actually made the right call and took you over UCONN.

As an ACC fan, Louisville was the school I really wanted to replace Maryland!

Yep, certainly complimentary of Rutgers there. As I pointed out, recent history indicates Rutgers has done better than Louisville on the field.

It wasn't that much better, c'mon now. It's easy to just pretend the Kragthorpe years were somehow acceptable to human beings, but you all had the same coach and went 4-8 in 2010.

And let's look at recent history (coach in parentheses):

2011 - W 16-14 (S)
2010 - W 40-13 (S)
2009 - L 14-34 (K)
2008 - L 14-63 (K)
2007 - W 41-38 (K)
2006 - L 25-28 (P) motherfucker
2005 - W 56-5 (P)

 

[Branduil]

Deadspin presents the Hater's Guide to Notre Dame.


Love the Lou Holtz mention.

This is amazing. And I didn't know Notre Dame had a rapist responsible for a young woman's death on their team. Now I have to hope for Alabama to destroy them. :\

 

[andycapps]

Of course they were inflated by the Triple Option teams. Without those 2 games, UGA's in the 30's nationally (instead of 69th).

I'm wondering if UGA's defense will have any ill effects have having to work so much against the Triple Option the last 2 weeks, followed by a "normal" power running/balanced passing team.

Is the UGA defense that stiffled the 104th ranked Florida Offense, the "actual" UGA defense? Not the Kentucky/Tennessee/South Carolina versions of the UGA defense?

I'd look at the time Florida game and beyond. A significant portion of our defense didn't play in those first 4 games, and when they did come back, there was a lot of chemistry that was lacking. They've been a different defense since Florida.

Does the Murray from the USCe and Florida games appear? Or the one from Buffalo/MIZZ/FAU/Vandy/Tenn/UK/Ole Miss/Auburn/GSU/GT games?

The real question is if the Murray shows up from the final drive against Florida when he went 8/8 and led them on a game clinching touchdown. It comes back to their line play though, I think. If he's protected, he has a good chance of having a good game. It's going to be a tall order to protect him, but our line has been better than anyone expected it'd be. Certainly not as good as Bama's.

He also tends to come out in big games like he just drank 5 espressos. If I could script the game it would start out as follows:

UGA wins the toss and defers to second half like we always do. Defense comes out and forces a 3 and out with some dominating tackles for loss. Offense comes on the field, we run it the first two plays to set up a 3rd and short. Murray throws a slant route for a 30 yard gain. Followed by a TD.

If the game starts out that way, I'll feel good about it.

 

[Subitai]

Take this quote from Stewart Mandel:



Yep, certainly complimentary of Rutgers there. As I pointed out, recent history indicates Rutgers has done better than Louisville on the field.

LV was (well not really when compared to UConn) a victim of location, location, location.

I haven't been able to keep up today, but is this along with holding firm on the exit fee enough to satisfy FSU and Clemson?

 

[Sirpopopop]

Mandel's gonna Mandel, but he's not wrong--cherry-picking w/l records aside, they're basically the same as far as on-field performance.

Cherry picking, sure. Yet, I don't see why using the last six years isn't a bad metric to use. It's certainly gives you a good breadth of recent history. If you would like, we could go for the past 5 years which represents one class of recruits if you discount medical redshirts.

In that case:

Louisville - 32-29. .524 winning percentage.

Rutgers - 39-23. .629 winning percentage.

That's not basically the same on-field performance. It's about a difference of 1.5 wins over that time period. That's including players who are going to finish their careers in college tomorrow night. That's a sound basis for recent history since it is based on the cycle of the recruiting class that is going to graduate now.

ACC isn't replacing Rutgers w/ Louisville though, they're replacing 31-43 and a team that has moved conference home games to Baltimore and Washington pro stadiums to attract visiting fans.

I get that.

However, that's not the point. One move is being praised as a move that's good for football because it's adding a good football product that's also sound financial.

Yet, the Rutgers move is derided because supposedly the school can't manage its fucking finances, and also offers "mediocre football product." Guess what? The reason the school bet big on football was to get in the Big 10 (fuck calling it the B1G), and it worked. It was a great financial move precisely because it worked.

Yet, that's lost amongst all this expert media analysis.


MightyHealthy - This isn't about head to head. Otherwise, UConn would be getting into the ACC over you guys.

In any case, Kragthorpe happened. Just like Kyle Flood is happening right now.

 

[Draxal]

In any case, Kragthorpe happened. Just like Kyle Flood is happening right now.

KIRK CIAROCCA.

 

[Sirpopopop]

KIRK CIAROCCA.

Ok, that's fair.

 

[impirius]

the Big 10 (fuck calling it the B1G)

whoa whoa whoa whoa

Let's not say things we can't take back

 

[Sirpopopop]

whoa whoa whoa whoa

Let's not say things we can't take back

I just went Hulk Mode in this thread.

NO TAKE BACKS!

I AM THE WORST POSTERS ON NEOGAF!

 

[Monroeski]

Jace Amaro has officially been cleared to play in the bowl game HELL YEAH

::edit::
Oh hell, he's been cleared for "additional activities" but not contact yet.

 

[krzy123]

All i know about rutgers is terry shea and mike mcmahon, those guys were pretty awesome.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

I just went Hulk Mode in this thread.

NO TAKE BACKS!

I AM THE WORST POSTERS ON NEOGAF!

Yeah, fuck typing B1G. Big 10 or bust.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

whoa whoa whoa whoa

Let's not say things we can't take back

I prefer Big Tenlevenfourteen

 

[timetokill]

Deadspin presents the Hater's Guide to Notre Dame.
Love the Lou Holtz mention.

Apparently the author of this article just got a text message: "Don't do anything you would regret. Messing with Notre Dame football is a bad idea."

 

[Cyan]

Cherry picking, sure. Yet, I don't see why using the last six years isn't a bad metric to use.

It's not a bad metric to use. Just kind of random, so when I saw that six years ago also happened to be the last point where Rutgers had a better record, I sort of went "hmm."

If we go back any further than that, things start to even out. Over the last decade, the records are quite comparable.

But yes, I agree that if 5-6 years is your horizon, your boys come out looking better than the Fighting Kragthorpes.

 

[mre]

This is amazing. And I didn't know Notre Dame had a rapist responsible for a young woman's death on their team. Now I have to hope for Alabama to destroy them. :

Or Georgia, but, got damn, that story is depressing.

 

[krzy123]

Pretty sure Notre Dame's coach killed a kid too, wasn't in the article unless i missed it.

 

[Sirpopopop]

On to a more serious note.

Is Goldeneye the only BIG BEAST fan left in the thread?

I thought there were one or two USF/UConn fans who showed up on occasion.

 

[andycapps]

Or Georgia, but, got damn, that story is depressing.

Didn't you know, Bama had already won? Georgia forfeited.

 

[MightyHealthy]

MightyHealthy - This isn't about head to head. Otherwise, UConn would be getting into the ACC over you guys.

In any case, Kragthorpe happened. Just like Kyle Flood is happening right now.

Yet you didn't quote me

and I don't think Kyle Flood is that bad...

 

[Ganhyun]

Didn't you know, Bama had already won? Georgia forfeited.

Well, if you listen to any major sports news source, GA has no chance and its a gimme game for Bama.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

On to a more serious note.

Is Goldeneye the only BIG BEAST fan left in the thread?

I thought there were one or two USF/UConn fans who showed up on occasion.

I wouldn't call myself a "fan" of the BE at this point in time anymore.

 

[andycapps]

This is amazing. And I didn't know Notre Dame had a rapist responsible for a young woman's death on their team. Now I have to hope for Alabama to destroy them. :

Wait, they had a player accused of sexual assault/rape and no charges were files, no punishment, we still don't know who it was? I blame Mark Richt for losing control of Notre Dame.

 

[Sirpopopop]

Yet you didn't quote me

and I don't think Kyle Flood is that bad...

After you see him continue to not account for the fact that everyone knows that the way to beat Rutgers is to take away the middle for Gary Nova and stack the box you'll disagree.

It's been going on for four games, and he hasn't adjusted at all.

He won't adjust for Louisville.

With that said, I'm not sure it's going to affect the pick'em that much. Both teams are coming into the game severely handicapped. Rutgers by idiotic coaching. Louisville by injuries.

 

[andycapps]

Well, if you listen to any major sports news source, GA has no chance and its a gimme game for Bama.

It doesn't fit the narrative. The narrative is that Georgia avoided all the big teams in the West and hasn't beaten anyone. The reality is that Georgia and Bama both have a good win and a loss to a ranked team (though Georgia's was by a higher margin early in the year).

The other reality is that Bama avoided all of the good teams from the east and has a very similar schedule to Georgia's. The one main difference is that Bama has been to a lot of big games in the last few years and won. While Georgia was great in first 5 years or so of Richt in big games, they have been hit or miss lately.

 

[bucknuticus]

Wait, did I just read that right on sportscener, Bama and UGA havent played since 2008??

SEC scheduling fucked up.

 

[andycapps]

Wait, did I just read that right on sportscener, Bama and UGA havent played since 2008??

SEC scheduling fucked up.

That's correct. The glory of conference expansion and having permanent cross-divisional rivalries.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Wait, did I just read that right on sportscener, Bama and UGA havent played since 2008??

SEC scheduling fucked up.

Without a doubt. Conference was already too big, now they are going to find a way to further not have powerhouses play each other too often. Dat artificial power!

 

[mre]

Didn't you know, Bama had already won? Georgia forfeited.

To be fair, the Media dick-sucking of Alabama is counterbalanced by the verbal masturbation of the Georgia players.

Wait, did I just read that right on sportscener, Bama and UGA havent played since 2008??

SEC scheduling fucked up.

We were scheduled to play this year, but expansion happened.

 

[Draxal]

After you see him continue to not account for the fact that everyone knows that the way to beat Rutgers is to take away the middle for Gary Nova and stack the box you'll disagree.

It's been going on for four games, and he hasn't adjusted at all.

He won't adjust for Louisville.

With that said, I'm not sure it's going to affect the pick'em that much. Both teams are coming into the game severely handicapped. Rutgers by idiotic coaching. Louisville by injuries.

You don't have to take away the middle for Rutgers, cuz Rutgers will take away the middle on their own accord. I'll go nuts if Rutgers go for field position battle with a punter who can only punt 20 yards again.

 

[Enfinit]

Deadspin presents the Hater's Guide to Notre Dame.


Love the Lou Holtz mention.

The best part is reading the ND salt in the comments.

 

[Lonestar]

Alabama played USCe in 2009 and 2010
Florida in 2010 and 2011 (and 2008 and 2009)
Haven't played Kentucky since 2009! Finally played Vandy last year after not playing since 2007 (and we didn't get a 2nd game against Vandy this year) Oh, that doesn't fit the spin, oops.

 

[Karakand]

Deadspin presents the Hater's Guide to Notre Dame.

So I'm supposed to hate Notre Dame because it's not ashamed to be Catholic and intermix that with something as meaningless as entertainment but I'm not supposed to hate whatever SEC school they face for the title even though SEC states routinely fuck up the political process by intermixing their religion with something that actually is important (the political process) and give no fucks about it.

Do I have that right, or is there a Deadspin "hater's" guide to the Harvard of Athens, GA and the Auburn of Tuscaloosa, AL too that covers this point?

 

[cdyhybrid]

You're supposed to hate Notre Dame because of Brent Musburger.