michaelius
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You don't need much CPU to animate 10 mushrooms and Mario on the screen.
Wii U clock speeds are found by marcan
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You don't need much CPU to animate 10 mushrooms and Mario on the screen.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I can't think of any other name for the next iteration of Wii. WiiU+?
Backfoggen
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Because when it become law to have energy ratings on everything people will see this on the WiiU
And G or something on the others people will just assume it's better. Because no one reads the little numbers, they just see the big A and go "that's the one!"
Is this a real post?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I hope so. Even kitchen appliances with the power rating slapped on their face gets little to no attention.
SolarPowered
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It just keeps getting worse and worse.
Clearly Nintendo didn't give a fuck about the West when they designed this system.
Clearly Nintendo didn't give a fuck about the West when they designed this system.
And Bayonetta 2.
GhostTrick
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Yes it is ! It was also GameCube CPU it seems...
Really, I can't think how they could achieve this... How they could lose money on this or how they couldn't find cheaper and better solutions.
This GPU better be something powerfull.
test_account
XP-39C²
True indeed, but wasnt one the focuses on the WiiU to appeal more to the "hardcore" gamer? That is what i got from the very early WiiU announcements and interviews, hence the U in the name. "Some people had been asking, is the Wii really a console for me. Then we made the WiiU, a Wii that is for you", Reggie said something like that at least.
Which is a 1st party game in this case
(IP owned by Sega and being developed by Platinum Games however, which both are 3rd parties, but Nintendo is publishing the game).Super WiiU!
I think that's the key, though. *Once* you assume existence, that argument becomes relevant - but assuming that is a mistake. it's wrong to fail to consider the effect of these factors in whether games get made, because that's potentially a relevant issue (and indeed was crucial to the Wii).
However, to present a counter-argument to the doom-and-gloom, it's also incorrect to operate on the assumption that the conclusion third parties came to after the last generation was that the pursuit of power was healthy for their business. Indeed, I'd argue that in many cases it caused them significant issues. I think that any third party other than those who have been making huge profits last gen (i.e. Activision) would be foolish to not at least take advantage of this console transition to think carefully about their future strategy and whether the continued push in that direction is financially secure for them.
Because when it become law to have energy ratings on everything people will see this on the WiiU
And G or something on the others people will just assume it's better. Because no one reads the little numbers, they just see the big A and go "that's the one!"
Tell me this irony, please.
This is a Power 7 similar to what powers the Watson supercomputer.
Relaxed Muscle
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Yes.
reggie is a confirmed liar.
TheLegendOfMart
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I agree the clockspeed is a little on the low side but maybe they are doing more stuff GPGPU wise hence the relatively beefy GPU?
Barrel Cannon
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USB support at launch and easily hackable 
I sense a large double edged sword emerging. Ruined online possibly but on the bright side, something that can hopefully give the OG xbox a run for it's money in terms of functionality.
I sense a large double edged sword emerging. Ruined online possibly but on the bright side, something that can hopefully give the OG xbox a run for it's money in terms of functionality.There was a time when the Gamecube CPU was pretty special. I remember when they showed the picture of it. And it had copper components. It was really something back in the day.
Of course, the landscape has change radically in the past 15 years.
Pancakes R Us
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No, they really could not have had it all. Where Microsoft and Sony are so progressive in some areas, Nintendo just isn't. Nintendo excels at first party development, which the other two could only hope to come close to. As a Nintendo-only console owner, I never want to see Nintendo have one, all-dominant system ever again. It is too restrictive/hard-up in so many areas. Having three consoles battling it out can only mean good things for consumers as competition will hopefully bring out the best in each.
Captain Smoker
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The western market doesn't care about itself.
Oligopoly, heavy losses (but they moan if a system is not beefed up), hope for the holy iOS-grail (won't happen) to cover losses, etc.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G3
If you look at it that way, it is indeed based off 1997 tech. It's pretty interested because IBM doesn't want to produce these chips anymore unless someone is willing enough to buy them.
Maybe that was their marketing goal, but from the looks of it, Nintendo hasn't really put effort/money/thought into making that a reality. Arrogance or imcompetence?
But you won't be able to play any new games when your energy bills are through the roof!!!!!1111
Seriously, I was just trying to give one reason why Nintendo would be so concerned about energy efficiency and that was the best I could come up with, a strange future where green policies have gone out of control. So in conclusion GAAAAAH! Even BGBW can't figure it out!
AdventureRacing
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And a strange one at that. MS/sony basically handed them this chance and a huge time frame to do it in and they fucked up.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Lol, so people were crazy before to say all launch games share dev time and resource issues to make the launch dates but now it's ok to say they all had wizards making them to end up that decent, rather than even consider the cpu isn't as bad as the numbers may imply...
Yes. But Marcan didn't say Espresso was a PPC750. Just that it is (or behaves) similar to Broadway. It has to, as it's designed to offer binary compatibility. And no current off-the-shelf PowerPC can run Broadway binaries.
klapauzius
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Interesting. But even with this low clock some high profile PS360 games like Assassins Creed 3 runs as good on Wii U as on PS360. There must be some magic in Wii U
Marcan got this information through Wii Mode in the Wii U. Could be that the specs are different in Wii Mode and normal Wii U? The Wii U CPU could also be in a lower clock when it is idle.
It is a pity that marcan don't offer more and more reliable information.
Marcan got this information through Wii Mode in the Wii U. Could be that the specs are different in Wii Mode and normal Wii U? The Wii U CPU could also be in a lower clock when it is idle.
It is a pity that marcan don't offer more and more reliable information.
Not even worth it for that. Not with that pathetic hardware. Not going to pay $350 for $100 hardware with a $200 controller.
Cute Dragon Here
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1.2 GHz, huh?
Altogether, seems actually pretty impressive to me, seeing how people managed to get Xbox 360 games running at least reasonably well on the machine. I have slight doubts about future games, games developed with the Wii U in mind, not as an afterthought, should be able to run pretty well.
MIPS count?
Altogether, seems actually pretty impressive to me, seeing how people managed to get Xbox 360 games running at least reasonably well on the machine. I have slight doubts about future games, games developed with the Wii U in mind, not as an afterthought, should be able to run pretty well.
MIPS count?
Yoshi
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Is it so? I always buy the kitchen appliances with the best or second-to-best energy rating I can find (depending on price) - and I know quite some people who do, too. I even bought a new cooler because my old one was horrible regarding energy consumption.
suavelicious
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Thought of that, too. It seems unlikely but it could be possible.
BrokenEchelon
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I just want to know what Nintendo is thinking.
I want to be the fly on the wall during the long-term meetings regarding this console. So curious.
I want to be the fly on the wall during the long-term meetings regarding this console. So curious.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes. Either they're entirely out of touch with what hardcore gamers want or they lied.
I don't think anyone is really limited game design-wise by current specs. There's maybe a few framerate problems here and there but that's it. Third party developers were never going to make any ambitious games on Wii U anyway. The last one was...I don't know...Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube?
suavelicious
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this!!!
You're right that people sometimes put too much emphasis on numbers, but seeing those ports looking about as good as the PS3 versions of those games doesn't make me want to rush out and buy a Wii-U.
The Wii was successful because of the motion controls making gaming accessible, but I don't think anyone would deny that they lost a lot of their "hardcore" fans. The "U" part of the Wii-U was supposed to be them saying "we haven't forgotten about you hardcore guys!", but they seem to think that having games that look as good as those running on 6-7 year old consoles is enough - it's not. This is probably why Reggie is lying about how multi-plats look on the Wii-U.
shinra-bansho
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The problem is ultimately the market dictates that they continue to push for more power, better graphics etc. etc.
Consumers do care. Or at least the consumers for their games.
The target demographics for the Elder Scrolls and GTA and Mass Effect want bigger and better and prettier.
Because when it become law to have energy ratings on everything people will see this on the WiiU
And G or something on the others people will just assume it's better. Because no one reads the little numbers, they just see the big A and go "that's the one!"
So you'd pass up on a potentially amazing game because the clock speed of the CPU in the console you're playing it on is low?
I'm not planning to buy a WiiU for Bayonetta 2 at all I just can't fathom how anybody could possibly say such a thing.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I always hated this comparison/analogy. It's like when Sony was spewing about how Cell processor is the next best thing and is used by military.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Watson is based off POWER7. WiiU is based off PowerPC. Big Difference.
I don't know why Nintendo decided to show off. Even PS3 and 360 processors are POWER-based, but it depends on the iteration and the release.
That's like saying that Pentium-based PC are all the same.
casual gaming + nintendo franchises.
the end.
(some exceptions like zombieu,mad world are only.....exceptions.)
Yeah, that's a fair point. I was thinking of which one affects the games as I actually play them rather than the economic viability of the games in the first place.
VanquishUK
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My phone has a more powerful CPU.