Switch 2 upgrades look worse than Wii U emulation upscaling

The point was it couldn't even hold 60fps in one of the least demanding areas in the game on a fucking 4090 and great cpu, man. And the majority of the mods are for performance optimization. Give your head a shake. The 4090 is the second best GPU in the world. So yes, it stands to reason that if that setup can't hold 60fps (4k isn't much of a factor on emulation compared to cpu demands) then it probably is not a better version than the switch 2 version that we've seen holding a locked 60fps with no shader stutter.

you seem to be confused about raw power when it comes to emulation. You can't brute force emulation like you can native software. If the emulation tech isn't there you can have a 6090 and it won't make for a better experience than the game running (near) native on much weaker hardware.

I'm arguing with a wall here. Have a good one.
The emulated version runs several times the resolution of the switch 2, incorporates several graphical enhancement mods, offers stuff like wide-screen and reshade and your argument why it's somehow "worse" is a split second drop of 3fps in a 20 minute video.
that is the most utterly retarded shit I've read in a while.
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Why did I even bother talking to such a troll....
 
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Never cared that much about latest zelda artstyle so that's probably why it look like a huge improvement to me.
I sold mu copy of BOTW ages ago but kept the save file. TOTK just looked too similar for me having covered pretty much all of the original map and completed every shrine. But now I think I will hint down a second hand copy of BOTW and use my Nintendo family expansion pack. Can't wait to go exploring again. Although how much time I will have as I am trying to navigete Mario Kart World is a slight problem. But a good one to have. :)
 
I sold mu copy of BOTW ages ago but kept the save file. TOTK just looked too similar for me having covered pretty much all of the original map and completed every shrine. But now I think I will hint down a second hand copy of BOTW and use my Nintendo family expansion pack. Can't wait to go exploring again. Although how much time I will have as I am trying to navigete Mario Kart World is a slight problem. But a good one to have. :)
Why not play TOTK instead of BOTW a second time ?
 
Why not play TOTK instead of BOTW a second time ?
A very expansive question. And to answer it I just love the simplicity of the original map. TOTK is a great game, but it just looked far to busy to me. Perhaps I might bite if I can find a cheap second hand copy. BOTW was just an awesome experience for me and was the first time the dreams of a massive open world Zelda adventure came true. But even though the post Switch patch made things better. I was always thinking this eas not running as it should.
 
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I sold mu copy of BOTW ages ago but kept the save file. TOTK just looked too similar for me having covered pretty much all of the original map and completed every shrine. But now I think I will hint down a second hand copy of BOTW and use my Nintendo family expansion pack. Can't wait to go exploring again. Although how much time I will have as I am trying to navigete Mario Kart World is a slight problem. But a good one to have. :)
I thought tokt was much better than botw so i would just play totk instead of botw again.
 
I thought tokt was much better than botw so i would just play totk instead of botw again.
I was not going to buy TOTK but did end up caving in on launch day. I did enjoy the initial sky island. But sold the game pretty soon after. I may go back at some point.
 
I was not going to buy TOTK but did end up caving in on launch day. I did enjoy the initial sky island. But sold the game pretty soon after. I may go back at some point.
I loved spending time under ground and exploring. There are some really neat areas down there. And the feeling of starting to explore a cave and it just keeps going and going and going and it loops around and you finally come up and are like "huh.. now im here.. cool"
 
Yes you're absolutely right. It's revisionist history at this point. You have to realize that there are too many Nintendo fans who will defend the big corporation with their lives.

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And You buy PC not from multibillion company as well?

We are all the same dude.

No need for being harsh to people who likes something, while You dont

and also, You are emulating, it's not fine for people who buy the game by their own money and not evevn know or not even disturb You.
 
Over the moon... We don't need this type of obvious agenda driven hyperbole on here. Although it can be fun at times. ;)
Still he was ten times funnier than you will ever be...
Well, I guess we'll have to satisfy ourselves with laughing at nintendouches from now on.

Also, to the guy who seriously wrote that OP, like some digital Yetzer Hara, made this thread to push every gaffer toward the abyss of a life of crime and depravity, i love you and please never change :messenger_blowing_kiss:
 
Still he was ten times funnier than you will ever be...
Well, I guess we'll have to satisfy ourselves with laughing at nintendouches from now on.

Also, to the guy who seriously wrote that OP, like some digital Yetzer Hara, made this thread to push every gaffer toward the abyss of a life of crime and depravity, i love you and please never change :messenger_blowing_kiss:
Guess we have very differend definitions of the word "Funny". Unless you mean he was strange.
 
Guess we have very differend definitions of the word "Funny". Unless you mean he was strange.
His way of being uber serious about a silly thing was funny, your way of being uber serious about a silly thing isn't.
Also i read the thread diagonally but it seems you were celebrating his ban, and i think it's really lame, whatever the reason.
"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls ,and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles!"
(now i stop being preachy you're doing good enough for both of us ;) )

edit : of course it's just my opinion and you are entitled to your own !
 
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I loved spending time under ground and exploring. There are some really neat areas down there. And the feeling of starting to explore a cave and it just keeps going and going and going and it loops around and you finally come up and are like "huh.. now im here.. cool"
For me this game is dream comes true, being fans since 1st zelda, i like open restriction and can explore much more (roleplaying as archeolog) the game keep surprising me, and somehow i lost in immersion. For me, this is kind of my cozy game. I'm also love Tom Clancy Wildland for being immersive explorer. The sky and underground also keep the thing fresh and interesting. Plunges hundred hours easily (because i walk, literally walk much more than other game)
 
Whilst OP is 100% right your not buying a switch 2 for the graphical performance. You can do better on a rog ally or something.

It's for the experience of using a switch type device. Handheld lightweight curated and simple.

If it was just about power no one would touch it.
 
And You buy PC not from multibillion company as well?

We are all the same dude.

No need for being harsh to people who likes something, while You dont

and also, You are emulating, it's not fine for people who buy the game by their own money and not evevn know or not even disturb You.

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For me this game is dream comes true, being fans since 1st zelda, i like open restriction and can explore much more (roleplaying as archeolog) the game keep surprising me, and somehow i lost in immersion. For me, this is kind of my cozy game. I'm also love Tom Clancy Wildland for being immersive explorer. The sky and underground also keep the thing fresh and interesting. Plunges hundred hours easily (because i walk, literally walk much more than other game)
The whole sequence with the Master Sword is one of my fav. moments in gaming.
 
His way of being uber serious about a silly thing was funny, your way of being uber serious about a silly thing isn't.
Also i read the thread diagonally but it seems you were celebrating his ban, and i think it's really lame, whatever the reason.
"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls ,and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles!"
(now i stop being preachy you're doing good enough for both of us ;) )
Not serious at all. Just stating the way things are. He was not an enemy in the slightest. Also the fact you find this sort of trolling funny does not mean it is.
 
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People here changing the game's art direction just for "better colors", like if that makes it look better necessarily.

There's a reason why AI art is rejected by so many people, and there's a reason why Demon Souls Remake has people criticizing it and it's that actual artist intention matters a lot to many people (actually more than I expected before).

You change the way BOTW looks, it stops feeling like "the same experience but better", it starts feeling like a whole different thing and not what one wanted to see better in first place.

That's why I'll always prefer resolution + performance boost without any "improvements" unless the original creators are doing it themselves. WWHD is another example of "improvements" going wrong, check the sky excess of bloom, for example.
 
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The emulated version runs several times the resolution of the switch 2, incorporates several graphical enhancement mods, offers stuff like wide-screen and reshade and your argument why it's somehow "worse" is a split second drop of 3fps in a 20 minute video.
that is the most utterly retarded shit I've read in a while.
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Why did I even bother talking to such a troll....
I've corrected you on the fps point twice now and you continue to repeat yourself. Are you OK? The repeated drops visible in the video are on a 4090/13900 in THE LEAST DEMANDING OPEN AREA OF THE GAME. There are far worse drops in the game - that is a representation that the game doesnt run particularaly well on emulation even under ideal conditions on the most powerful hardware. There is also poor frame pacing/stuttering visible in that video.

the switch 2 runs the game at 1440p, so emulators running it at "several times" the resolution is useless. After 4k you have severely diminishing returns, no one has a display that supports much beyond that, and it doesn't even run the game smoothly at the same resolution as the switch! Knock yourself out seeing the number go up though buddy.

reshade presets are almost always terrible. HDR will address the biggest issues with the presentation without butchering the artist's intention.

The only widely used graphics mod outside of resolution + dozens of bug fixes (THAT EMULATION CREATED) is shadow resolution scaling, which tanks performance even further and causes flickering.

thanks for sharing the GIF of yourself, good to know what I'm dealing with
 
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People here changing the game's art direction just for "better colors", like if that makes it look better necessarily
Removing that perma-foggy vaseline look from TOtK improved the visuals massively. Sometimes the "intended art direction" is just crap.

I've corrected you on the fps point twice now and you continue to repeat yourself. Are you OK? The repeated drops visible in the video are on a 4090/13900 in THE LEAST DEMANDING OPEN AREA OF THE GAME. There are far worse drops in the game - that is a representation that the game doesnt run particularaly well on emulation even under ideal conditions on the most powerful hardware. There is also poor frame pacing/stuttering visible in that video.

the switch 2 runs the game at 1440p, so emulators running it at "several times" the resolution is useless. After 4k you have severely diminishing returns, no one has a display that supports much beyond that, and it doesn't even run the game well smoothly at the same resolution as the switch! Knock yourself out seeing the number go up though buddy.

reshade presets are almost always terrible. HDR will address the biggest issues with the presentation without butchering the artist's intention.

The only widely used graphics mod outside of resolution + dozens of bug fixes (THAT EMULATION CREATED) is shadow resolution scaling, which tanks performance even further and causes flickering.

thanks for sharing the GIF of yourself, good to know what I'm dealing with
Go back to your cave little troll. Tell your fever fantasies to the moss growing under your fingernails. I won`t be bothered listening to your utterly retarded agenda drivel any longer. Ignored.
 
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People here changing the game's art direction just for "better colors", like if that makes it look better necessarily.

There's a reason why AI art is rejected by so many people, and there's a reason why Demon Souls Remake has people criticizing it and it's that actual artist intention matters a lot to many people (actually more than I expected before).

You change the way BOTW looks, it stops feeling like the same experience but better, it starts feeling like a who different thing and not what one wanted to see better in first place.

That's why I'll always prefer resolution + performance boost without any "improvements" unless the original creators are doing it themselves. WWHD is another example of "improvements" going wrong, check the sky excess of bloom, for example.ù
The initial reveal looked way more gorgeous than the final game, so the intention was for the game to look like the reveal, they were forced by the shitty hardware to downgrade the graphic, the meme video is never gonna be not funny about it.
Nobody is ever gonna convince me that the final result is EXACTLY what the devs wanted.



 
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The initial reveal looked way more gorgeous than the final game, so the intention was for the game to look like the reveal, they were forced by the shitty hardware to downgrade the graphic, the meme video is never gonna be not funny about it.
Nobody is ever gonna convince me that the final result is EXACTLY what the devs wanted.




It looks neither better or like the first teaser lol
 
It looks neither better or like the first teaser lol
The point is that a shittier graphic wasn't what the devs wanted, so shitting on the emulator version for looking more detailed than the final game is a big funny when nintendo itself revelead a game that look much better than the final form.

I wasn't specifically pointing at you, just at people who think that better graohic would ruin zelda artstyle, i only used your post as a trampoline :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 
The point is that a shittier graphic wasn't what the devs wanted, so shitting on the emulator version for looking more detailed than the final game is a big funny when nintendo itself revelead a game that look much better than the final form.

I wasn't specifically pointing at you, just at people who think that better graohic would ruin zelda artstyle, i only used your post as a trampoline :lollipop_grinning_sweat:
I mean, it's ok to set the game like that for a personal experience but saying that it looks better than on Switch because of wrong colors isn't lol. Not everyone hates the game's art direction.
 
I've corrected you on the fps point twice now and you continue to repeat yourself. Are you OK? The repeated drops visible in the video are on a 4090/13900 in THE LEAST DEMANDING OPEN AREA OF THE GAME. There are far worse drops in the game - that is a representation that the game doesnt run particularaly well on emulation even under ideal conditions on the most powerful hardware. There is also poor frame pacing/stuttering visible in that video.

the switch 2 runs the game at 1440p, so emulators running it at "several times" the resolution is useless. After 4k you have severely diminishing returns, no one has a display that supports much beyond that, and it doesn't even run the game smoothly at the same resolution as the switch! Knock yourself out seeing the number go up though buddy.

reshade presets are almost always terrible. HDR will address the biggest issues with the presentation without butchering the artist's intention.

The only widely used graphics mod outside of resolution + dozens of bug fixes (THAT EMULATION CREATED) is shadow resolution scaling, which tanks performance even further and causes flickering.

thanks for sharing the GIF of yourself, good to know what I'm dealing with
Do we already have a framerate test where the switch 2 version never lose a frame??

Because if not, the bolded part is more wishful thinking on your part than actual reality...
 
I mean, it's ok to set the game like that for a personal experience but saying that it looks better than on Switch because of wrong colors isn't lol. Not everyone hates the game's art direction.
The emulated version is not just different colors, it is also better graphically like the reveal vs final version, i heard people saying that the shitty ass textures are part of the art design but it sound like coping, you can have colorfull art design with actual decent graphic, biomutant is an example


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You are not gonna convince me that botw\tokt would not look better with better (bust still kinda cartoony) textures\graphic.
 
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Wrong. Switch 2 version has significantly improved textures and textures are the Nr. 1 thing that look terrible with these two Zeldas. You won't get better textures on PC. And if there are texture packs now, they almost always look like shit.

Texture comparison:
 
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His way of being uber serious about a silly thing was funny, your way of being uber serious about a silly thing isn't.
Also i read the thread diagonally but it seems you were celebrating his ban, and i think it's really lame, whatever the reason.
"Do not rejoice when your enemy falls ,and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles!"
(now i stop being preachy you're doing good enough for both of us ;) )

edit : of course it's just my opinion and you are entitled to your own !
The forum got lighter.........we lost another moron.
 
The emulated version is not just different colors, it is also better graphically like the reveal vs final version, i heard people saying that the shitty ass textures are part of the art design but it sound like coping, you can have colorfull art design with actual decent graphic, biomutant is an example


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You are not gonna convince me that botw\tokt would not look better with better (bust still kinda cartoony) textures\graphic.
Textures yes, as long as display limitations are not part of art direction like CRT was for pixel art back in the day, they are IQ as much as resolution.

But the game art direction is granularly tuned, the colors, the atmosphere, characters design, textures design (not resolution, mind you). The fact that its art direction doesn't match your tastes doesn't mean it looks bad.

I for example hate new DK art direction but I wouldn't change it in emulation because that was the artists art and what the game actually is... I would completely change it for a future game or whatever since I don't like it, like I would have gone for another art direction for TOTK since I got burned out of BOTW already but as they didn't, then I go with it... IDK how to explain it, it's some kind of big importance I give to art performance, for the same reason I wouldn't mod a game to change characters models because I like them more than originals.

Edit: BTW my complaint is not about each one changing the game for their own experience, but comparing them to OG art direction and trying to pass it as "better", no it's not, the game actual art direction is great and shouldn't be touched beyond some IQ so it can shine.
 
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The best thing about Cemu and BOTW is that you can use graphics presets that change/improve the colors. The game has a very washed out look and i used a preset that only slightly increases the contrast and blacks and it made a huge difference. Combined with upscaling and a 60fps steady frame rate, the game was more than presentable.
 
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