Graphics Horse
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Someone tried that and there wasn't much there, a couple of piano chords might be reversed but that was all i heard.
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The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")
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Someone tried that and there wasn't much there, a couple of piano chords might be reversed but that was all i heard.
Ether_Snake
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Ooooh, I think I understand what the trailer is.
"I need to tell you some things... You have been in a coma for quite some time.", then the doctor disappears and you start seeing hallucinations.
I'm guessing this part IS when he was in a coma. It happens before he wakes up. So it's like a crazy fucked up dream, and then he wakes up, which is when the doctor scene starts. Hence the whale and all the fucked up visions that don't make sense.
"I need to tell you some things... You have been in a coma for quite some time.", then the doctor disappears and you start seeing hallucinations.
I'm guessing this part IS when he was in a coma. It happens before he wakes up. So it's like a crazy fucked up dream, and then he wakes up, which is when the doctor scene starts. Hence the whale and all the fucked up visions that don't make sense.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Graphics Horse
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Could be yes. But there's definitely weird stuff going on in a hospital, so it might jump back and forth.
Also, I think there were some people complaining that this looked worse than Ground Zeroes, but the reason GZ looks "better" (which I don't even really think it does) is because of the lighting. When you're in these pitch-black environments with alternate light sources, you can hide a lot of flaws compared to when in a fully lit room.
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It's not the same character. You can see parts of his face not covered by the bandage, he's not burned.
yeah I dont think so either
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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LOLLLL!!! Nightmare inducing indeed! :lol
It does sound more "rhythmic" in reverse, if that makes sense...
The dialogue in the reversed audio sounds Japanese. SOMEONE TRANSLATE IT.
Kojima will find a way to put this into some sort of dialog that sounds like complete insanity. It will be be repeated at least 5 times.
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You also hear a heartbeat during the whole trailer.
Definitely in a coma when all this stuff is happening.
Definitely in a coma when all this stuff is happening.
if you analyze the music backwards and change the pitch a bit then put it back to normal, you get this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l71gaZnYgOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l71gaZnYgOU
moneyman232
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True, i just watched again, and his neck area is indeed bandaged, right over the areas we were able to see in the ground zeroes trailer. Could be him indeed, though you have to wonder what would bring together FOX and XOF following the prologue
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This is my favorite moment in gaming
We all just have to go for the ride and see where it takes us!
Graphics Horse
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For this to make sense, melted face man would have to be wearing the bandages as a disguise as this would surely be set later than when he was treated for burns. Possible but not convincing.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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MGS-related reveal is always the best thing that can happen in gaming...
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I am scared like fuck right now
Hank Scorpio
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Yeah, this. Have to say the amount of stuff people have spotted is pretty incredible. Would never have spotted the Kio Marv guy. Great stuff. Nerdgasms etc.
Also, the trailer was one of the darkest (in tone) I've ever seen for a MG game.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Did anyone else notice this?
It's like he's telling himself to wake up but he can't.
It's like he's telling himself to wake up but he can't.
Did anyone else notice this?
It's like he's telling himself to wake up but he can't.
well yeah
the whole thing is "why cant I move my body", "is this real" etc
he's clearly talking to himself
moneyman232
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Which was basically my argument on the last page, Timeline wise it doesn't make sense, unless he underwent some sort of treatment following the events of the prologue, which is the same reason im not quite convinced they're the same person, but the deliberately placed bandages is either a hint or a red herring. I feel like there's something we're missing...
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But right at the start you see his face, it's not burned.
Did anyone else notice this?
It's like he's telling himself to wake up but he can't.
it should say "open your eye" instead, silly big boss.
masterkajo
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Did anyone else notice this?
It's like he's telling himself to wake up but he can't.
Plus Kojima trolls the audience to "open their eyes" (in the sense: "Haven't you figured it out by now?") and see that the trailer is really about MGS5.
With this much evidence I am now 100% sure we have seen the first trailer of MGSV.
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Yeah, true. Since GZ will most likely be the prologue.
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You mean second.
MisterLuffy
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I like this trailer, this is some tense stuff.
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I think Kojima has an ulterior motive in this situation. Let's psychoanalytically look at Kojima. He is feeble yet ambitious. He is making all these brilliant games, with so much determination. He is trying to find an outlet to exude his inner masculinity. He is emasculating Snake, essentially. Metal Gear Solid V is Kojima's final step to become a man. He almost reached the goal with 4, but he feels he has to redeem himself to those who didn't like it.
First impression is that the guy who is bandaged up and helping "Snake" is the "real" Big Boss. It seems clear that he's with you for at least significant parts of the game, helping you sneak past guards. Note that he's doing most of the leading.
Or perhaps more to the point, both of them are Big Boss. Having divided his identity within what is likely a coma dreamworld, "two phantoms were born." Thin Snake is heavily wounded (handicapped in fact), weak, and unsure of his identity. Bandaged Snake is muscular, moves with purpose (including in BB's crouch-walk style), and perhaps knows who he is but is intentionally holding back (as does the trailer). Bandaged Snake has a very un-Snakey voice, but after he's unmasked I would suspect he would then again have his "real" voice.
It's also very possible that this isn't taking place within Big Boss' comatose state, but rather a result of a serious drug-induced state causing Big Boss to dissociate and hallucinate. Either way, I really liked this trailer and the backdoor presentation of this new MGS.
Or perhaps more to the point, both of them are Big Boss. Having divided his identity within what is likely a coma dreamworld, "two phantoms were born." Thin Snake is heavily wounded (handicapped in fact), weak, and unsure of his identity. Bandaged Snake is muscular, moves with purpose (including in BB's crouch-walk style), and perhaps knows who he is but is intentionally holding back (as does the trailer). Bandaged Snake has a very un-Snakey voice, but after he's unmasked I would suspect he would then again have his "real" voice.
It's also very possible that this isn't taking place within Big Boss' comatose state, but rather a result of a serious drug-induced state causing Big Boss to dissociate and hallucinate. Either way, I really liked this trailer and the backdoor presentation of this new MGS.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I believe the vehicle crashing sequence takes place after the hospital escape. I also see a fiery unicorn lol. Maybe Boss' horse! 
I don't get WTF happens in the end with the chopper. WTF is behind it?!
I don't get WTF happens in the end with the chopper. WTF is behind it?!
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Bandaged guy is either a new character, or Gray Fox (lol). The fact his face is hidden probably means it's someone we know.
The way the video is setup, it's clear that what happens after the doctor says he's been in a coma, happened before. The way the music cuts, etc.
A giant whale. Moby Dick.
edit: Actually, maybe the whole game will be recollections of different events. Maybe that explains all the weird flashes/sound in BOTH trailers.
edit: Who is this?
The way the video is setup, it's clear that what happens after the doctor says he's been in a coma, happened before. The way the music cuts, etc.
I believe the vehicle crashing sequence takes place after the hospital escape. I also see a fiery unicorn lol. Maybe Boss' horse!
I don't get WTF happens in the end with the chopper. WTF is behind it?!
A giant whale. Moby Dick.
edit: Actually, maybe the whole game will be recollections of different events. Maybe that explains all the weird flashes/sound in BOTH trailers.
edit: Who is this?
yurinka
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Sounds really interesting. About the lens flare/flash, are you talking about the GZ orange flashes? What was their meaning? Are they here too?
Relaxed Muscle
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I remember people telling theories about the flashes and the lens flare, maybe is like 2 games in one, everytime the game flashes in GZ you play a part of The Phantom Pain and the another flash and you go back.
Ether_Snake
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You don't see them in this one, but you hear the same weird sounds as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L5IVOs5Pxh8#t=234s
In Phantom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nSfajBs2nyQ#t=173s
edit: BTW the Russian voice at the end says "He has come to", as in "he has awaken", so right after that the doctor scene would logically play. He just woke up at the end of the nightmare. So definitely all a bad dream happening while he is in coma.
My guess is the whole prologue of the game is "Ground Zeroes"+this part, then Big Boss awakes.
edit: Who is this?
Looks almost like the boss to me.
Ad Infinitum
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MGS 5 Dream sequence.
I was gonna say the same thing. Volgin, The Boss, all on fire, etc. MEANINGS?
Waldo Lydecker
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Another connection to Moby Dick:
The Japanese voice actor of Solid Snake, Akio Otsuka, also voiced Ahab Ishmael in Hakugei: Legend of the Moby Dick.
It is a futuristic version of Moby Dick; this adaptation used futuristic outer space as the setting, with "whales" being large abandoned spaceships instead.
Just sayin'.
The Japanese voice actor of Solid Snake, Akio Otsuka, also voiced Ahab Ishmael in Hakugei: Legend of the Moby Dick.
It is a futuristic version of Moby Dick; this adaptation used futuristic outer space as the setting, with "whales" being large abandoned spaceships instead.
Just sayin'.
CambriaRising
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Big Boss is batshit looney toons crazy, and about to start the events of Metal Gear 1.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Few things I noticed:
1. British Flag. This takes place in Britian. The doctor is not British especially with the accent.
2. Adding more to location, the vehicle being driven has a steering wheel on the right side. It indeed is in Britian. The vehicle being driven is a medical van. You can see some pills and medical charts floating around when the van tilts. It's indeed after the hospital scene; they both most likely escaped in the van, but then crashed it.
British characters in MGS are Liquid Snake and Zero.
1. British Flag. This takes place in Britian. The doctor is not British especially with the accent.
2. Adding more to location, the vehicle being driven has a steering wheel on the right side. It indeed is in Britian. The vehicle being driven is a medical van. You can see some pills and medical charts floating around when the van tilts. It's indeed after the hospital scene; they both most likely escaped in the van, but then crashed it.
British characters in MGS are Liquid Snake and Zero.
edit: Who is this?
Raiden.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Half that crowd was just extras brought in so the "audience" looked good.
So basically, the exact same thing he has been doing for the past two games. More soldier recruiting... yay.
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