You can't celebrate shit with that game.
The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")
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You can't celebrate shit with that game.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Same here, nicer graphics, MGS 2 mechanics, superb cutscenes with highly stylised action and Mario & Yoshi dolls.
The cutscenes in Twin Snakes remind me of actors performing in a theater or opera production, the body language and motions are too grandeur and sweeping.
I still prefer the claw hands, square heads, and triangle boobs in the PS1 version compared to rocket flips and Solid "The Matrix" Snake in Twin Snakes.
I still prefer the claw hands, square heads, and triangle boobs in the PS1 version compared to rocket flips and Solid "The Matrix" Snake in Twin Snakes.
Neither is a solid 60. PS3 has the original controls scheme however.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Now this became a TTS thread. Bailout.gif
Muffin Awesome
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Fantastic
JonnyBigBoss
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I just wish this were coming to Wii U. Sony has proven they have absolutely no idea what they're doing. I don't want to have to keep my PS3. 
Why would we torture ourselves?
EdibleExplosives
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This is really making me want to eventually play MGS3. I've been meaning to for ages.
Muffin Awesome
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I just wish this were coming to Wii U. Sony has proven they have absolutely no idea what they're doing. I don't want to have to keep my PS3.
I just hope for Vita and PS3 connectivity whatever it, #saved for the Sony family in my book then.
SpaceBridge
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You need to rectify this, immediately.
Wow, I completely missed this thread.
As soon as I saw the trailer, it screamed FOX engine from the get go....then I saw the mullet. Yeah, real subtle there, Kojima.
Count me in the camp that doesn't think that GZ and this MGS 5 incognito trailer are separate games. Heck, I'm not so sure either of them are MGS5 or even the main body of Koji ptro's next MGS game. I think they are morsels of a general direction or aesthetic that will eventually lead up to MGS5.
As soon as I saw the trailer, it screamed FOX engine from the get go....then I saw the mullet. Yeah, real subtle there, Kojima.
Count me in the camp that doesn't think that GZ and this MGS 5 incognito trailer are separate games. Heck, I'm not so sure either of them are MGS5 or even the main body of Koji ptro's next MGS game. I think they are morsels of a general direction or aesthetic that will eventually lead up to MGS5.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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Was it ever made public what hardware the GZ demo was running on?
AuthenticM
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what the fuck
Seriously, could you explain why ? I played both games back-to-back right before MGS4 came out and I came to the conclusion that Twin Snakes had very little elements that were better than their original counterparts. Here's a list of what I remember being worse in TS:
- Both Paul Eiding and Jennifer Hale's performances were worse. They sounded as if they did not want to redeliver all those same lines. They basically sounded as if they didn't give a rat's ass about the project. Neither heart nor soul could be felt. They were monotonous.
- Gray Fox's VA was different and worse
- The graphics looked ugly. Despite coming after MGS2, they were worse-looking. Especially the characters' faces; they looked so weird.
- First-person shooting breaks the game. The level design was conceived with an overhead view in mind.
- Crazy cutscenes incompatible with Metal Gear's own brand of craziness, designed by a John Woo-wannabe. The camera going "SWOOSH" all the goddamn time was unbearable. Also, Snake jumps off a missile.
- probably the worse offender, this track was MIA.
As for the positive, I think there was a second thing I had picked up on, but for now, the only thing I recall being better was Mei Ling's VA giving not only a better performance, but she didn't fake a chinese accent, making her in sync with the franchise's canon.
I'm curious as to why you prefer it to the original.
They said a PC with comparable specs to a PS3 (yeah right)
The framerate tends only to really drop during cutscenes like the original game did, so it's not a big deal. The original controls are definitely worth it, the controls on 360 are...odd.
Lion Heart
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I beat Twin Snakes last week. I had to go with the graphics upgrade but I cringed hard more than once. Still such a fantastic game, probably the best I played this year.
lmao
I just wish this were coming to Wii U. Sony has proven they have absolutely no idea what they're doing. I don't want to have to keep my PS3.
lmao
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
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So, PS720 it is then. The rain flowing on the rocks looks ridiculously amazing. Cannot wait for next gen, but I gotta hold off buying the first batch lol, and that's gonna be damn hard to do.
I just wish this were coming to Wii U. Sony has proven they have absolutely no idea what they're doing. I don't want to have to keep my PS3.
Wow. I can't even comprehend how someone could think Sony has no idea what they're doing after using the mess of a system that is the Wii U.
In comparison to how Nintendo has handled the Wii U, Sony is goddamn perfect.
BigTnaples
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I'd rather be repeatedly punched in the nuts for several hours.
I think that The Phantom Pain is what the engine looks like when it's actually running on a 360/PS3. Could be the reason for the lower poly models and such.
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JonnyBigBoss (from the darksiders 2 DF thread) said:
I just wish this were coming to Wii U. Sony has proven they have absolutely no idea what they're doing. I don't want to have to keep my PS3.
oh my...
Why you gotta split us apart?
I should. MGS1 is the only MGS game I haven't played yet and it looks like it aged horribly.
I agree, Metal Gear Solid is perfection.
cutmeamango
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Prefering Twin Snakes over MGS is like masturbating to your grandmother's teenage pictures.
Scott Sharkey, is that you?
It's worth playing MG2 just to see how much MGS1 borrows from that game, it's kind of interesting.
MGS3 is the greatest though.
This.
When I played MGS2 I kept telling myself: "This is just like MGS...in every way"
I understand how great MGS was/is and I absolutely love it to this day. But MGS2 remains the MGS for me.
Deadly Cyclone
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So after being gone all weekend I finally checked this out. Can someone explain how the plot of this synchs with 4? I've only played 4 but I know the general points behind the other games. Is this a sequel to 3 with Big Boss then?
Sorry, I'm a bit confused. Does this mean two current gen MGS games in the next year? Or is this and Ground Zeroes the same?
Sorry, I'm a bit confused. Does this mean two current gen MGS games in the next year? Or is this and Ground Zeroes the same?
funkystudent
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Yeah its a sequel to 3 and Peace Walker. Think of the story as "a tale of Big Boss" when he was at odds with Zero. It probably wont have any giant revaluations in the greater MGS fiction or fill any gaps in MGS4's story since MGS4 went out of its way to fill in every gap in the MGS story that was created in 1, 2 and 3.
Like Portable Ops and Peace Walker it will just be Big Boss goes somewhere and does some stuff and meets younger version of some random MGS character along the way because Kojima is like that and its pretty self contented expect for the very very end in the end cut scene someone calls Snake Big Boss and someone says "outer heaven".
As for if its a different game or not. Well unless another studio is making it or Koji Pro Hired another 150 people it is probably the same game at Ground Zeros.
Left out GZ because it's probably a part of MGSV imo.
The MGSV logo doesn't quite fit in in its current incarnation.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Better graphics, crazy action is fun to watch, no Mei Ling accent, Snake's eyes being brown makes more sense given the dominant/recessive gene plot in the game and I'm an unashamed GC fanboy.
Twin Snakes has higher resolution, non crap voice acting direction, there's no reason to play the original when Twin Snakes is right there.
Skel1ingt0n
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Twin Snakes is better than the original. All day, e'ry day. I like the original. But the GC version is definitely superior.
Better graphics. Better voices. More fun cut scenes. Better controls.
Better graphics. Better voices. More fun cut scenes. Better controls.
Yes.
Also, I prefer TTS' controls and the generally smoother/natural feel in gameplay it grants. First person aiming broke the game? Nah, I think it fixed it.
Sub_Level
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So the corrected accents (Naomi's was corrected as well) and eye fix comfort you at a canonical level but Snake shooting a Stinger missile in mid-air and this
don't bother you? Because in MGS2 Solid Snake does not operate at that level lol and it's only 2 years afterwards. Closest thing is him slightly dodging Olga's bullet, but that shot was meant more to show the bullet itself almost hitting Snake, not Snake dodging. Also Twin Snakes never had this baby
MGS2 uses footage from both the PS1 version and the VR Mission expansion pack, not to mention MGS4 even has you play a segment of the PS1 version. The original is the purest one I tell you.
I enjoy Twin Snakes. It's absurdly easy since the game wasn't originally designed with first-person in mind, but it's a fun romp and I enjoyed the extra cinematic stuff. Kojima would have put that kind of thing in the original if the PS1 could have supported it.
The original on PS1 is still great, though.
The original on PS1 is still great, though.
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