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WarZ pulled from Steam (for now)

DMPrince said:
thank you based garry



http://forums.thewarz.com/showthread.php?79251-Steam-purchase-page-issues

lol
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Misread
I dont think he know the meaning of that word. Its not misreading if you write the false information and we read it.

Blair said:
Releasing a shitty unfinished game that is B2P and has microtransactions. These guys ripping off blizz aswell!
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I hate to defend Diablo 3, but the game was in a playable state. It was completed and outside of the PVP, which I did not care a bit, all the skills, characters and enemies were in the game. War Z seem to be in a Alpha state. I played 60 hours without any massive error outside of the servers burning to aches during 2 days.
 
TucoBenedictoPacifico said:
I'm not sure why people are under the delusion that employees at Valve play and evaluate games on a meritocratic base before putting them on the store.

They don't, they put games on sales if they expect them to meet some demand.
Or, like in this case, if they have already some relationship with developers/publishers submitting a product.

Complaining for false advertising and asking for a refund are legitimate things, expecting the store to make its own evaluation of the product's quality on the other hand is silly.
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Of course. That's why I didn't complain once about this game being on Steam before today. Only when they didn't completely pull it (leaving the store page). When they seemingly stood by the devs who have been nothing but shitty. I've only criticized them for doing all this AFTER the shittyness of the game and devs has come to light.
 
TheVoidDragon said:
I'd like to see what their explanation for the map size is. The devs have lied about pretty much everything, and then blamed it on the players misreading it, so it would be interesting to see what they say about this.
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"Well, you see, the land is really the equivalent of at least 100 square kilometers, but it's also true that every character and asset in this game is giant, and you actually play with 50 foot tall characters and zombies are also 50 feet fall and basically you live in the land of giants."
 
It should be up to consumers, not Valve, to punish developers for misleading advertising. If the developer question can resolve the issues and later deliver a product that is in-line with their current or former advertising, there should be no issue with it being made available on Steam.
 
LumpOfCole said:
"Well, you see, the land is really the equivalent of at least 100 square kilometers, but it's also true that every character and asset in this game is giant, and you actually play with 50 foot tall characters and zombies are also 50 feet fall and basically you live in the land of giants."
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Lol
 
PartTimeWarrior said:
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"IT IS DONE."
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HOT
 
syllogism said:
I think you misunderstand, I'm not saying false advertising can not lead to legal liability
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It was made available through Steam. Steam, as the retailer that approves of and advertises the product, might become liable. Seems reasonable not to stock their product.
 
WedgeX said:
It was made available through Steam. Steam, as the retailer, might become liable. Seems reasonable not to stock their product.
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Absolutely, I agree that their legal team should evaluate the situation and take reasonable precautions. They should not knowingly stock a product that is subject to false advertising, but if the issues get resolved, that's a different situation.
 
Good on Valve to pull the game and issue refunds. However, Valve needs to rethink their review/certification process for games. I don't like it that games can completely skip the review process if the publisher had a game on Steam previously. That is a backdoor loophole that needs to be closed. War Z should have never made it onto Steam in the first place.

Valve has suffered several black eyes over the past year or two. This, Greenlight, and more. They had better get their shit together ASAP.
 
GravityMan said:
Good on Valve to pull the game and issue refunds. However, Valve needs to rethink their review/certification process for games. I don't like it that games can completely skip the review process if the publisher had a game on Steam previously. That is a backdoor loophole that needs to be closed. War Z should have never made it onto Steam in the first place.

Valve has suffered several black eyes over the past year or two. This, Greenlight, and more. They had better get their shit together ASAP.
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If it makes you feel any better that loophole has been closed now, I know this because I know publishers with games previously put onto Steam now havign to go through Greenlight.
 
A little humility, specifically in that Gamespot interview would have gone a long way to having player understanding. Admit you're run by fallible humans and made a mistake, but reinforce your dedication toward making your future plans a reality and offer some token of apology and they might have avoided this. But the brass balls on this sergey dude. YEESH. Have fun with all that PR, dude. At least you have your ego to keep you company...
 
plagiarize said:
Of course. That's why I didn't complain once about this game being on Steam before today. Only when they didn't completely pull it (leaving the store page). When they seemingly stood by the devs who have been nothing but shitty. I've only criticized them for doing all this AFTER the shittyness of the game and devs has come to light.
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Uh? "AFTER" is right now, and they just pulled out the game for the store.
 
GravityMan said:
Good on Valve to pull the game and issue refunds. However, Valve needs to rethink their review/certification process for games. I don't like it that games can completely skip the review process if the publisher had a game on Steam previously. That is a backdoor loophole that needs to be closed. War Z should have never made it onto Steam in the first place.

Valve has suffered several black eyes over the past year or two. This, Greenlight, and more. They had better get their shit together ASAP.
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It should be heavily emphasized of the correlation between what went on here and the Valve acceptance program known as Greenlight.

Valve is asking gamers to vote up games based on videos and not actual gameplay leaving the process open to manipulation much like the War Z developers used doctored screenshots on the store page, who is to say what Greenlight participants are watching is actually in the game. Greenlight is poorly thought out and open to severe abuse. Valve should dump it.
 
Shard said:
If it makes you feel any better that loophole has been closed now, I know this because I know publishers with games previously put onto Steam now havign to go through Greenlight.
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Would Greenlight have done ANYTHING for this situation other than absolve Valve?
Not that I think Valve did anything wrong here (other than the inaccurate Steam page).
 
Greenlight wouldnt of done anything. TB mentioned Towns also had a similar situation to War-Z where it was a beta being sold as a full product, only after a while did they change the store page to say it was 'being updated on a regular basis' or something like that. So Valve even lets Greenlight stuff slip through without QA testing.
 
Gez said:
Greenlight wouldnt of done anything. TB mentioned Towns also had a similar situation to War-Z where it was a beta being sold as a full product, only after a while did they change the store page to say it was 'being updated on a regular basis' or something like that. So Valve even lets Greenlight stuff slip through without QA testing.
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This is the biggest problem with the service. It feels like not enough QA is being put to bear on games before being released.
 
Archie said:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/226700/

Can't buy it any more.

Valve statement:
From time to time a mistake can be made and one was made by prematurely issuing a copy of War Z for sale via Steam. We apologize for this and have temporary removed the sale offering of the title until we have time to work with the developer and have confidence in a new build. Those who purchase the game and wish to continue playing it via Steam may do so. Those who purchased the title via Steam and are unhappy with what they received may seek a refund by creating a ticket at our support site here.
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This is more than a simple mistake, Valve. You let scammers onto your service to sell to your customers and now you are even giving them a second chance. When someone creates a Steam account for the purpose of scamming other players they are banned no questions asked. Why should these clowns be any different? There is no ambiguity about what they did and still they are straight up calling anyone who points out their obvious false advertising liars. You would think Valve would take their own service more seriously. If they allow this to go back on sale they are officially XBLIG-tier.
 
Cday said:
This is more than a simple mistake, Valve. You let scammers onto your service to sell to your customers and now you are even giving them a second chance. When someone creates a Steam account for the purpose of scamming other players they are banned no questions asked. Why should these clowns be any different? There is no ambiguity about what they did and still they are straight up calling anyone who points out their obvious false advertising liars. You would think Valve would take their own service more seriously. If they allow this to go back on sale they are officially XBLIG-tier.
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Complete overreaction. Valve is handling this situation properly. They pulled the game in a timely fashion and are offering refunds almost no-questions asked.

You want to be mad at someone? Be mad at Hammerpoint.
 
Cday said:
This is more than a simple mistake, Valve. You let scammers onto your service to sell to your customers and now you are even giving them a second chance. When someone creates a Steam account for the purpose of scamming other players they are banned no questions asked. Why should these clowns be any different? There is no ambiguity about what they did and still they are straight up calling anyone who points out their obvious false advertising liars. You would think Valve would take their own service more seriously. If they allow this to go back on sale they are officially XBLIG-tier.
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I think if a company has a legit game already on Steam, we can give the benefit of the doubt and say Valve probably shouldn't be blamed for trusting that this wasn't a scam.
 
Flunkie said:
Is there any way that they can be sued or something? This is almost too unreal for someone to get away with.
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Was kind of wondering this myself. I have played neither DayZ or this, but the ripoff is too obvious to ignore... down to the Z in the title. But I suppose this may be the spawning of a new genre, sort of like of like with Minecraft.
 
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