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Either they joined a wrong queue or someone was trying to prove a point today.
lol that's awesome.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I can't decide whether to skip the prereleases or not... I don't play standard anymore so the cards are kind of worthless and I sort of don't want to prepay for it. The reveals so far have been sort of underwhelming too. Not sure what to do, and it may be full if I wait too long.
Wait, explain this. They declare attacker then you ping the guy? Don't they get the exalted bonus once they are declared?
The Technomancer
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Almost every event in Magic happens as a discrete action. Declaring attackers is one action. Exalted taking effect is a second action, and although it happens right away you have a window to play something in between them. Do you know how the stack works?
So do you know about the stack and how spells resolve?
Anytime a spell is cast or an ability is used it goes onto the "stack" before it resolves. This is your chance to counter it, or do something else in response before it resolves and has its effect happen. You can use anything that is "instant speed" to respond. Anything you do in response to something on the stack resolves before the thing you responded to, since the stack resolves in top-down order with the most recent thing cast resolving first.
Exalted uses this exact same system. When their single attacker is declared everything they have that has the Exalted ability will trigger, and go onto the stack waiting to resolve. You then have an opportunity to respond to all those triggers. This is a good time to use a burn spell or ping ability (or anything that does damage) since it will resolves before it gets the toughness boost from Exalted. If you do enough damage to it it'll die before it can get the bonuses.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
divisionbyzorro
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Pongify is not a good card. It does not belong in the category of quality removal. In many cases, it will be worse than Unsummon, and it's leagues worse than Vapor Snag from last season. There are edge cases where it will be useful, but this card will not be ubiquitous. It will be sideboard tech against non-reanimator decks with bombs that can't be dealt with profitably any other way.
So blue should be able to kill a bomb creature outright for one mana? Is turning Grisselbrand into a 3/3 frog lizard really a fair trade? Isn't this why blue should have to splash for a color that could kill a bomb?
Like you said, blue has Unsummon for that already. Which fits better into the color-pie and blue's abilities. This card does not fit.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Like some of you are saying, it doesn't matter that the new Pongify isn't great or it's a 2-for-1, it's the fact that this is clearly color pie creep. Polymorph is fine. 1cc instant speed for only a 3/3 is NOT fine.
That's like red getting a draw three cards discard two for one red at instant speed. It's technically in color but it stupidly pushes what the color is supposed to be doing, especially in a non-primary aspect. For clarification, blue's primary abilities should be card draw and counterspells with bounce third.
That's like red getting a draw three cards discard two for one red at instant speed. It's technically in color but it stupidly pushes what the color is supposed to be doing, especially in a non-primary aspect. For clarification, blue's primary abilities should be card draw and counterspells with bounce third.
Shit is this for real? LOL
platypotamus
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What should I be laughing at? I don't follow, but I want to
Guy entered a modern daily event on MTGO with a standard red/black agro deck and went 4-0
Gatekeeper
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A Black/Red deck with only standard legal cards going 4-0 in a Modern Format MODO tourney.
You picked a really terrible example with Mr. Bargain.
platypotamus
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Ah. Being only a limited player, I didn't even realize
The Technomancer
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I don't know much about Modern, but I'm glad to see that it looks like the format really is pulling from across the last 10 years of Magic instead of just a couple sets. I see some stuff from Time Spiral, Lorwyn, Alara, Zendikar, Innistrad, Mirrodin both old and new, even Tenth Edition. I mean, someone's running Slippery Boggle from Eventide for crying out loud.
divisionbyzorro
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That deck is obnoxious as hell to play against. Ugh.
Just won an NJ PTQ.
It's hilarious to watch, I saw someone (I can't remember the name, something like Malague or Lalague, I wasn't at home so I don't know where to find his stream again) playing Bogle on Magic Online and I could practically feel his opponents' hatred towards hexproof.
Seeing an Edict effect being scoffed at by Misty Rainforest into Dryad Arbor made me like the deck even more. Plus the Spiritdancer crazyness too.
Ninja edit: okay, googled it and found it: http://www.twitch.tv/mlalague
Seeing an Edict effect being scoffed at by Misty Rainforest into Dryad Arbor made me like the deck even more. Plus the Spiritdancer crazyness too.
Ninja edit: okay, googled it and found it: http://www.twitch.tv/mlalague
Oh man, that is filthy.
It will be absolutely hilarious if they have to ban the 1-drop hexproof guys eventually.
Haha that would be funny.
divisionbyzorro
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Yawn.
Oh, something new.
Does everything in this set have to cost (1) more than would make it interesting?
Oh, something new.
Does everything in this set have to cost (1) more than would make it interesting?
divisionbyzorro
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This one too:
That's a scary card actually. 6 mana is a lot, but theoretically you're setting it up to make them sacrifice two permanents, discard two cards, and lose two life?
This is a card that you should be very scared of as a developer.
divisionbyzorro
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I'm having magicalchristmasland scenarios in my head where you're playing some sort of Grixis tempo/control deck and you've got a Hypersonic Dragon on the table...
Let's look at it in Magical Christmas land scenario.
On turn six, assuming you have a creature on board that will be guaranteed a hit, for six mana you make them lose 2 life, discard two cards and sacrifice two permanents. That's not so bad and is probably on the safe side, considering if it's turn six and you get a creature through you should be in a pretty good spot anyway.
But who knows, we'll have to see how it plays out.
-4 cards. That's a lot.
No, it definitely is a lot. But that's under the assumption that everything goes in your favor there. I think six is reasonable. At seven I don't think it'd be playable.
If it said land instead of permanent then it'd be pretty busted.
When doing two sets in a row that are twins like this, the second one is the one that needs to be juiced to build excitement.
If, somehow, the set's actually on an even footing with RTR power level wise, they have done a godawful job ordering their previews in order to build excitement.
If, somehow, the set's actually on an even footing with RTR power level wise, they have done a godawful job ordering their previews in order to build excitement.
divisionbyzorro
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It's a shame they totally whiffed on the Planeswalkers, at least in terms of building excitement. Gideon is just...bad. And Domri might end up being decent, but he's certainly not exciting.
In terms of mythics, I assume we'll see the same pattern: 5 guild leaders, 5 guild-themed gold cards, and 5 mono-colored cards. That leaves us waiting on five mythics: G, B, UG, RW, and UB. I suppose there's still a chance for some fun stuff there.
In terms of mythics, I assume we'll see the same pattern: 5 guild leaders, 5 guild-themed gold cards, and 5 mono-colored cards. That leaves us waiting on five mythics: G, B, UG, RW, and UB. I suppose there's still a chance for some fun stuff there.
divisionbyzorro
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Make it a 2/2 for 3 with the same ability and we'd be talking.
divisionbyzorro
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In a world where Hellrider and Falkenrath Aristocrat are cards, this will never see play.
Yes, I know I'm comparing a rare to mythics, but when we talk about constructed playability, rarity has nothing to do with it.
Gatekeeper
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Holy crap, am I glad I sold my store.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
The Guild leaders for me, too.
But yeah. I went HAM on RTR. I'm going to be buying a couple singles out if GTC so far. Very, very meh all around.
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