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http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1691919&postcount=17709

And the AMD NDA was Dec 17 or 1+7=8. 8870M information was NDA till Dec 18. Lots of 8s but probably coincidence.

If it comes out on 8th August, I'll give £8.88 to Child's Play charity.

 

[XtremeXpider]

There's a good chance Sony will end up using the same memory as MS.

Ignoring the rest of your post...



Then I'm not sure what kind of customization they can do related to thread counts. Sorry that's where you confused me.

I just saying we don't know anything about the Jaguar CPU used on Durango.

 

[bud23]

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1691919&postcount=17709

And the AMD NDA was Dec 17 or 1+7=8. 8870M information was NDA till Dec 18. Lots of 8s but probably coincidence.

Number 8 being (don't read if your sensitive)

Spoiler

gang rapped

everywhere.

lol, It's not the number 8, it's the infinity symbol, I guess this is a truism for everyone.

Xbox Infinity. Follow the hummingbird.

 

[clutch.as.it.gets.]

Those games would be great. But I would like MS to go with some other IP's new, and IP's that they own that they didn't hit for the 360 IN addition to those of course.

Lets be honest I just want Viva Pinata 3.

And how about Banjo Kazooie 3...?

 

[Karak]

And how about Banjo Kazooie 3...?

I would of course go for that. But I would like to see these companies visit not just sequels. New IP's and unique uses of old ones would be really enjoyable and would make a special stamp on the systems.

Must have caught on as there are three pages on BY3D commenting on all the 8's.

 

[Clay Davis]

Those games would be great. But I would like MS to go with some other IP's new, and IP's that they own that they didn't hit for the 360 IN addition to those of course.

Lets be honest I just want Viva Pinata 3.

don't we all?

I fear they've sent the ip to the same void where rallisport challenge and many others have been sent by microsoft.

 

[Reiko]

Well Karak... You called this. That was quick.

 

[TheGreyHulk]

I'm not saying they will make a multi thread Jaguar.

This is a Jaguar CU:

4 cores per CU.

so if they have 8 compute units, they should get 32 threads? Maybe its 4 compute units and 16 threads? Who knows..

 

[Cuth]

It is believable that they'll use an 8 cores / 8 threads cpu, given that they've chosen for the alpha dev kits a setup with 8 cores / 16 threads Xeons?

 

[Karak]

don't we all?

I fear they've sent the ip to the same void where rallisport challenge and many others have been sent by microsoft.

Don't kill my heart man...don't.
I HOPE they bring some of them back

Well Karak... You called this. That was quick.

Ya it was very fast honestly, at least for this stuff, he seems to be completely right on.

 

[ekim]

lol, It's not the number 8, it's the infinity symbol, I guess this is a truism for everyone.

Xbox Infinity. Follow the hummingbird.

Maybe that's the ARG this time.

 

[Account Attempt #4]

lol, It's not the number 8, it's the infinity symbol, I guess this is a truism for everyone.

Xbox Infinity. Follow the hummingbird.

I was going to post this and thought surely someone had already, but didn't want to look through 10+ pages. Same page, how nice was that?!

 

[Karak]

I was going to post this and thought surely someone had already, but didn't want to look through 10+ pages. Same page, how nice was that?!

Your account name is...one of the best things I have seen all day

 

[FoxSpirit]

nope.
i7 are 4.5ghz with 8 threads. This guy is 8 ish threads (some maybe os only) at waaaay less speed.

Naw, you got your math wrong:

i7 with 4 cores at 2 threads each = 8 threads
That mean effectively each thread has a median 2.25ghz to work with. And here we have 8 cores at 1 thread each so each thread has 1.6GHz.

Also, which i7 has 4.5GHz, stock they only go up to 3.5. That would mean 1.75GHz per thread which means that 8 core should be pretty damn fast. At least on software that's written to use 8 cores.

 

[mrklaw]

It is believable that they'll use an 8 cores / 8 threads cpu, given that they've chosen for the alpha dev kits a setup with 8 cores / 16 threads Xeons?

wouldn't they just use an i5 in that case - 8 threads.

if they chose a xeon because of 16 threads then that suggests 8 cores and 16 total threads I think. if they are going with jaguar or any AMD CPU they wouldn't need a fast CPU in the devkit, so choosing xeon to match threads makes sense to me.

 

[yon61]

It's perfect hardware. There is just no market for such a device.

The 3DS says there is, even though it is still struggling in the West.

 

[aegies]

Don't kill my heart man...don't.
I HOPE they bring some of them back


Ya it was very fast honestly, at least for this stuff, he seems to be completely right on.

Did I miss something?

 

[Router]

Must have caught on as there are three pages on BY3D commenting on all the 8's.

I just remembered the old, old, old "Xbox Loop" rumours lol

 

[AOC83]

The 3DS says there is, even though it is still struggling in the West.

The 3DS says there is a market for a Nintendo handheld.

 

[Realyn]

One guy says he is going to leak specs and then when someone does before him he reports him and tells him he's gone? lol

I didnt get that part either.

 

[AlStrong]

so if they have 8 compute units, they should get 32 threads? Maybe its 4 compute units and 16 threads? Who knows..

"Compute Unit" is just a cluster of 4 cores, 4 threads.

It's just 8 core/8 threads. Beyond that, you're better off looking for more capable CPUs with higher thread performance for the die area you're budgeting.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

I hate these suspicious nods and winks.

 

[ekim]

To continue : today the game "infinity danger" was released for Windows 8.
Now guess what the logo contains?

(I hope these are Chinese characters)
http://www.milkstonestudios.com/infinity-danger/

 

[Karak]

To continue : today the game "infinity danger" was released for Windows 8.
Now guess what the logo contains?

(I hope these are Chinese characters)
http://www.milkstonestudios.com/infinity-danger/

Haahaha. Awesome!

I Love Bees 8.0.

Most likely not but I Love Bees 8.0 is awesome.

 

[bud23]

Maybe that's the ARG this time.

I Love Bees 8.0.

 

[Router]

I dont get it?

*edit*
Duh... I'm slow.

 

[ekim]

I Love Bees 8.0.

Our infinite colony

 

[AgentP]

Naw, you got your math wrong:

i7 with 4 cores at 2 threads each = 8 threads
That mean effectively each thread has a median 2.25ghz to work with. And here we have 8 cores at 1 thread each so each thread has 1.6GHz.

Also, which i7 has 4.5GHz, stock they only go up to 3.5. That would mean 1.75GHz per thread which means that 8 core should be pretty damn fast. At least on software that's written to use 8 cores.

Why are you dividing the clock speed of the i7 by the number of cores? If it is a 3.5Ghz CPU, each core will run at 3.5Ghz (in turbo mode I assume).

Also not all cores are created equal, a i7 core will run circles around an AMD <pick one> core.

 

[yon61]

The 3DS says there is a market for a Nintendo handheld.

I was thinking that, but I do feel the situation would be much different had the Vita launched the same time the 3DS did.

 

[Iacobellis]

A 640GB HDD sounds way too big for a game console. Sure, they can do more now than ever before, but most computers today come with 250GB-500GB standard. The 360 launched with 20GB in 2005, and most computers were ~100GB from what I remember.

 

[alphaNoid]

To continue : today the game "infinity danger" was released for Windows 8.
Now guess what the logo contains?

(I hope these are Chinese characters)
http://www.milkstonestudios.com/infinity-danger/

I don't get it?

A 640GB HDD sounds way too big for a game console. Sure, they can do more now than ever before, but most computers today come with 250GB-500GB standard. The 360 launched with 20GB in 2005, and most computers were ~100GB from what I remember.

Hint : How big are HDDs are in DVRs?

 

[TheOddOne]

I wonder if any next-gen games will get a Gameinformer cover this year. They usually have the big titles as covers.

 

[pestul]

A 640GB HDD sounds way too big for a game console. Sure, they can do more now than ever before, but most computers today come with 250GB-500GB standard. The 360 launched with 20GB in 2005, and most computers were ~100GB from what I remember.

Huh what? Most computers have >500GB unless they use SSD. Even laptops above low range have 500GB minimum up to 1TB.

 

[AOC83]

I was thinking that, but I do feel the situation would be much different had the Vita launched the same time the 3DS did.

I don´t think it really matters, the (short)time of 2 dedicated gaming handhelds is pretty much over.

The casual crowd moved on, the core gamers in the west mostly don´t really care for handhelds. Left are the younger demographics (handhelds are mostly seen as toys in the US/Europe), the Nintendo fans and a few handhelds enthusiasts.

Sony doesn´t have the ips to pull the first group and the enthusiasts are not enough to make such a device profitable.

 

[PFD]

AMD (not nVidia) HD8800 series. The one that's not even out.

It's out

 

[Baconsammy]

A 640GB HDD sounds way too big for a game console. Sure, they can do more now than ever before, but most computers today come with 250GB-500GB standard. The 360 launched with 20GB in 2005, and most computers were ~100GB from what I remember.

Apple's cheapest iMac starts with a 1 TB drive. 640 isn't out of the realm of possibilities. I have a 320 on my 360 now that's practically full.

 

[Router]

I wonder if any next-gen games will get a Gameinformer cover this year. They usually have the big titles as covers.

Yes. No doubt quite a few will get covers starting just before midyear.

 

[vg260]

A 640GB HDD sounds way too big for a game console. Sure, they can do more now than ever before, but most computers today come with 250GB-500GB standard. The 360 launched with 20GB in 2005, and most computers were ~100GB from what I remember.

Absolutely not. That will fill up fast with full games. We're already getting 10-20GB full games now.

 

[Liquidsnake]

Sony is still paying for the 600 pricing on the PS3. No?
I don't have a lot of confidence in them.

 

[goldenpp72]

If anything 640 isn't that much considering the expected usage of the consoles coming, full download games that are 20+ gigs, DVR functionality, HD movies, etc.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

A 640GB HDD sounds way too big for a game console. Sure, they can do more now than ever before, but most computers today come with 250GB-500GB standard. The 360 launched with 20GB in 2005, and most computers were ~100GB from what I remember.

if we start getting day and date digital releases, with the size of games nowadays, i don't know if even 1tb would be enough.

 

[vg260]

if we start getting day and date digital releases, with the size of games nowadays, i don't know if even 1tb would be enough.

I don't want anything shy of 1TB for a next-gen console.

 

[TheOddOne]

Yes. No doubt quite a few will get covers starting just before midyear.

I cannot wait.

There is always a pattern, atleast two covers from Sony and Microsoft, some from big publishers and then there are suprises.

 

[DieH@rd]

Sony is still paying for the 600 pricing on the PS3. No?
I don't have a lot of confidence in them.

They became profitable with PS3 ~2 years ago. They are earning even more now with PS3 slim.

 

[Reiko]

What Project Gotham Racing 5 could look like...

PGR4

 

[Shikoro]

I don't get it?

I guess that they're referring to the box in which the characters are. So, "Infinity Box" or something.

 

[Angelus Errare]

I expect it to look like PGR4 with more specular, bokeh DOF and other nonsense, because that's the hallmark of "next gen"

 

[Baconsammy]

Do Microsoft of Sony have any say over when third parties can talk about next gen games they're working on? For example, if one of these third parties had to tell their stock holders what they're working on for the year, are they prohibited from giving specifics?

 

[MCD]

For a sec there I thought that was a next gen game.

Fucking PGR, how does it work?

 

[derFeef]

For a sec there I thought that was a next gen game.

Fucking PGR, how does it work?

Motion blur.
And fantastic lighting.