XtremeXpider
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Again, DDR3 is "slow" but eSDRAM is rumored too for Durango. And... what if it end with DDR4 in 2.5 stackig? We don't know yet...
VGLeaks: PlayStation 4 "Orbis" Roadmap
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Again, DDR3 is "slow" but eSDRAM is rumored too for Durango. And... what if it end with DDR4 in 2.5 stackig? We don't know yet...
Shadow Hog
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PlayStation 4-bis
Those specs are meaningless if we dont know how much they have modified those PC parts, what new special things did they introduce [durango has few secret sauces], and what is the general look of their architecture [we dont know if they will use stacking or not].
Performance can vary dramatically with slight changes of those things. One thing is certain, currently ON PAPER, both consoles will be ~10x than their predecessors [again we will have consoles of similar performance levels].
So if Sony and Microsoft both launch their new consoles this year, I just realized that this would be the first time that they both but heads against each other directly at a console launch in the same year.
(PS2 released in 2000, Xbox in 2001. PS3 released in 2006, and Xbox 360 in 2005.)
(PS2 released in 2000, Xbox in 2001. PS3 released in 2006, and Xbox 360 in 2005.)
Metalmurphy
Member
It's not enough.
Quite probable, since they didn't number the Vita.
What if I told you that we both want something unlikely and the actual product will be somewhere in between?
ViewtifulJC
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I'd like to see The Last Guardian roadmap
2007 - potential release year
2010 - maaaaaaybe
2013 - fuck it, PS4 launch title
2007 - potential release year
2010 - maaaaaaybe
2013 - fuck it, PS4 launch title
Baki
Member
Vita failed because Sony was late.
Horse Armour
Member
Wasn't this proven to be fake/extremely optimistic guessing?
4g GDDR5 console will absolutely murder everything out there. What do you mean it's not enough?
Right, it's all speculation right now going off the statistics we have available to us. Once we have more information we can assess the performance more accurately.
The 8800/8900 is just rebadged 7800/7900 parts, AMD's real next-gen cards will be the 9000 series.
There's a thread on this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507266&highlight=
There's a thread on this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507266&highlight=
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
They're probably going to reserve something obscene like 1GB RAM for the OS.
Its much faster memory than the Wiiu.
If OS takes 1GB, it really wont be enough. :-/
vagabondarts
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I expect big guns this summer from all three major players. It's going to be glorious!
Finally next gen is here and we get to see some new IP and see what every console has to offer. I'm really interested in what Sony is going to do as I think they have the most to gain and Microsoft has everything to lose.
Finally next gen is here and we get to see some new IP and see what every console has to offer. I'm really interested in what Sony is going to do as I think they have the most to gain and Microsoft has everything to lose.
True but 8GB of GDDR5 would be "next gen".
If they launch at $499 they have lost their minds.
and OS doesn't have to take GDDR5. Sony can just put cheap ass DDR3 512m ram there just for OS. Bam. problem solved.
Isn't that basically what happened with Ico?
Angelus Errare
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Devilgunman
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I'm smelling either The Last Guardian or FFvsXIII will be a launch title for PS4. It will make a bigger impact than releasing for PS3 in its late cycle.
Hello $800 launch price.
gundamkyoukai
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Getting 4GB of GDDR5 is hard enough no way they can get 8GB t with current chip size.
Hell why stop there. 16g is where it's at.
Metalmurphy
Member
In speed. 4GB is not enough for a next gen game console with a next gen OS that should bring awesome new features, one of them being multitasking.
I doubt it'll be that bad unless Sony tries to make the entire OS like the current PS Store. The Vita OS is really well done, fast, and doesn't get in the way of anything else even with 4+ tabs open. I have no reason to believe they can't build a similar OS for PS4.
XtremeXpider
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8GB? GDDR5? LOL, no way even on today top graphics cards
I guess you could say that. Ico was originally in development for the PS1 but was eventually moved to the PS2.
You can find prototype videos of it on Youtube.
again, sony just could put cheap ass ram just for OS purpose. DDR3 rams are cheap as dirts these days.
Using GDDR5 memory for the OS makes no sense.
eighty(one)
Member
The PS1 and 2 were technologically weaker, yet still were the victors of their generations. If the Orbis is reasonably close enough to the 720 in spec, it really doesn't matter. It comes down to developers who understand how to utilize those innard bells and whistles of hardware. Nintendo's 3DS is inferior to the Vita in many ways, but a developer as skilled as Capcom (takes the time to understand what makes 3DS tick), makes the handheld sing in ways you wouldn't believe.
I believe the power of Obis/720, will be indistinguishable when looking at the games side by side. You'll have certain games, which can pull off things on one system, that the other doesn't do as well (think fur rendering GCN vs. XBox 1).
I project that this upcoming generation will be decided by value placed on the systems by their publishers (incentives like PS+, Live infrastructure) and first party exclusives. In any case, my eye is on Sony, as they have a bigger opportunity to surprise me as a gamer, than MS. I feel MS is just going to have a brute strength machine, an extension of current 360 - with no real individuality/identity. Hence my disinterest, even as a sole 360 owner.
nhlducks35
Member
Pretty sure it was, and I don't think that the new consoles will have a 2TF+ GPU in it
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
All I know is, I'm ready.
That would be one interesting looking bit of silicon lol. Its not that 'easy ' to mess with architectures that way. Could happen though.. all bets are off. I still see something unified as more likely. 3GB of GDDR5 dedicated for games is actually quite good anyway but perhaps not if they want to eventually take the 4k route.
That's the point, "next gen"
Damn, do we have a source that can confirm PS4 has been delayed ten years?
Hate to break it to you, but the PS3 and 360 were using the equivalent of "current gen" PC video cards when they came out. You don't sell a consumer level product with high end parts that aren't actually available yet.
XtremeXpider
Member
I guess not even in future graphics cards (2013-2014)
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
today is january 2013. console will be out by end of 2013. what are you smoking?
Tears For Fears
Banned
Umm, you have no idea how R&D actually works do you?
SniperHunter
Banned
I am ready, PS3's time is up. Bring on next gen ASAP.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
So the nextbox will be much more powerful than Orbis?