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Sometimes it's not even a matter of them not being straight forward. Many people need 'hooks', something interesting to start conversations and get them going. Some people can do this with easy, but for others it's incredibly difficult. They're waiting for something funny or cute or interesting to drag them into the conversation -- even if they message you. Running through the minimal smalltalk will rarely get you anywhere.

But I'm all about being funny/cute/interesting.

I like to think I do better than the conventional small talk, just a behaviour I noticed in a few people.
 
Ahh. That was embarrassing.

It's the second time in this thread. lol, it happens. Though now I wonder what you pictured me looking like.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has a really attractive website, other than the fact that the homepage's background images don't scale and leave bizarre negative space on higher resolutions.

Yeah, I was bit surprised by how modern it looked. For some reason I expected something more old-timey.
 
this is my search data:

Age: 34-42 (I am 35 and I sometimes like younger guys but that's rather an exception)
Bodytype: Normal, Small Belly, Atheltic, Muscular
Height: Tall (around 6'3 and above is a plus but not a must)
No smoker, No drugs.

anything else, (like role in bed, religion, cock size, ethnics, job) isn't relevant enough to even mention it..

am I too picky?

Well that height sure as hell is, you wouldn't find that around my area(believed me I've checked). Then again I never see any tall gay males almost anywhere and if I do they are already taken like alot of tall people in general.
 
Well that height sure as hell is, you wouldn't find that around my area(believed me I've checked). Then again I never see any tall gay males almost anywhere and if I do they are already taken like alot of tall people in general.

He lives in Germany that shouldn't be a problem.

I like tall guys too, met one in the bar, we spent sunrise at the beach, he promised to call but never did...
 
he promised to call but never did...

Well now :(.

I need a bit more info here because I've done something similar. My reasoning for doing it was because I didn't like the guy and he was coming on to fast, now while I didn't mind his method as I said I just wasn't interested. However we did exchange numbers and we did go out once but when I said I'll call him again......yeah I never did it.
 
Well now :(.

I need a bit more info here because I've done something similar. My reasoning for doing it was because I didn't like the guy and he was coming on to fast, now while I didn't mind his method as I said I just wasn't interested. However we did exchange numbers and we did go out once but when I said I'll call him again......yeah I never did it.

We've all done that.
 
Well now :(.

I need a bit more info here because I've done something similar. My reasoning for doing it was because I didn't like the guy and he was coming on to fast, now while I didn't mind his method as I said I just wasn't interested. However we did exchange numbers and we did go out once but when I said I'll call him again......yeah I never did it.

Well actually I was the one who wanted it slow! we hit all the right notes, we were looking for more than a hookup, he kept mentioning we were going to have a lot of fun together, but not in a clingy way... seriously, even if we ended up as only friends I would have been more than happy. And I honestly think I didn't come off as annoying, he could have bailed out at any time during our "date" if we can call it that. So, no idea, whatever, it really hurt a lot but theres not a lot I can do anyway.

I have done the same though, but at least I did answer the phone and told the guy that I really wasn't looking to be boyfriends with him and that I apologized if I ever gave that impression, if you give your number at least answer the call, I guess.
 
trudderham's story soundscute..and sexy. :p
By the way, what happened to "the guy"? Any way to contact him again or something?

What sucks in my case, is that I'm always "alert" but never actually hits on me (surprise! :p), and can even see when it happens to others too.

But, well..whatever. The whole "talking online and leading to nowhere" also happens to me ..a lot. Like, I can sometimes talk for hours, exchange phone numbers and talk even more; then either nothing happens;= or we do make plans to meet and go out...and I never see them again. But I'm used to it.

What really sucks is that I sometimes think that "I did soemthign wrong", and break my mind thinking about possibilities as if I'm was bad/lame/boring; and if this guys go around telling others whatever they want about me, but I never know.

Heck, just a few days ago, after talking for a few hours with a(nother) guy I received a text message from another phone number basically telling me that "What makes me ugly is that I'm arrogant and selfish" and I was like .."what?". Unknown number, so don't know. I do think it was from a guy that always got pissed off at me for "ignoring him"; when he:
-Never once called me always and wanted to text, but I did called him a few times.
-Always sent picture/clips of his erect dick while I was at work ...and got pissed off becuase I didn't replied fast enough (well I was at work!)
-Used a friend's account to talk to me and started demanding pics of me, and becuase I didn't wanted to; he said I was a liar and a slut... (??)

So, that's kidna frustrating. Because all this time I wonder "what did I do wrong?" with the guys I went out and talked and stuff, and they're probably on my back saying lies to other guys and spreading bullshit around for no reason; and that could be related as to what I have a freaking hard time meeting/talking to other guys since they all end ignoring me..and yet I somehow end been the bad guy. Probably explains why 99.9% of the (gay) guys I meet/talk in person are always pissed off, angry or just full of themselves (even when I don't know them), while everyone else's friendlier.

But I may sound crazy as if "eveyrone's against me!!! the gays hate me!!!!" so I just accept it as something normal and move on.
 
It's funny though, if its a girl I know instantly. Playing with their hair and batting their eye lashes etc. I just have to figure out what guys do when they into other guys :)

If it's guys, they'd usually:

1. (The brave ones) Smile or wink at you out of nowhere - which means that if this happens in a public place, I'll look like a deer caught in a headlight because up until 2 years ago, I'm not used to people actually smiling or winking at me. So they'd think that I'm straight and not interested. FML. If it's in gay establishment, it's a bit easier because at least I know everyone is on the prowl.

2. Hovering around you. They'd do some kind of activity next to you, hoping you'll notice and start a conversation. Occasionally they'd steal glances. And they'll do it again and again and again. The problem is if you're like me and you don't know how to start conversation.

3. (Gym-scenario) Asks you if you're using a machine/equipment next to you even though it's obvious that you're doing completely different and unrelated exercise. This is pretty good because if I'm not interested, I can say something like "No man, go ahead" and stop the convo on track. But if I like the guy, I can add "Doing legs today?" (or other more obvious statement) just to open up conversation. The problem with this is that straight guys often use this method to talk to guys that they want to friend as well, so maybe 90% of the time you just end up getting new friends instead of potential fuck buddy. And IME, in public places (non-gay establishment) it's straight guys who are more aggressive when they want to get to know someone.

4. (Gay-bar/other gay establishments) Slap/grope you in the ass on top method 1 or 2. Well, can't be more obvious than this.
 
My face is a photographic enigma. Getting a good picture of it is very rare indeed.

I am sure you exaggerate :)
Plus, proper lighting can make a difference... and wind, lots of wind... there is never enough wind!
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I like shorter guys. And I'm 6'4'' which is probably 'too tall' most of the time :p

I'm with you. I'm 6'7" and it's a pain in the ass, but I like shorter guys without question. Shorter as in under 5'6".
 
Short-ish guy calling in, too. I'm 5'7 or so. I also have a huge attraction to muscle-y boys shorter than me.

However, I'm having an (to me) amusing issue: I can't find jeans that fit right. I have a 30" waist and 40" butt. I know we have some lifters in here with muscle legs, too. Any recommendations on jeans?
 
I need to vent somewhere so I'll dump it here. I'm in a pretty fucked up situation right now.

Last night was our staff party for Christmas, I'm a really bad drunk (you'll see why) and everyone at this point was drunk by 9pm. I went for a cig with my boss and he started hugging me and then.. started feeling my ass. What makes this more fucked up his partner for several years also works here. He started saying I've got a room here tonight (I work at a hotel and we had the party there) so I should go up to his room tonight, I was just laughing playing along with it then I went back inside. He tried to feel my ass all night and wouldn't leave me alone, I have no idea why nobody picked up on what he was doing yet but I went outside with a work friend and told her what was happening and she didn't believe me and I told her to just watch him and me when I go back in. He does it again and she eventually believes me and is proper gobsmacked and tells him that he shouldn't be doing this to me and he agrees but keeps on anyway.

We went into town afterwards and he is doing the same, now he drags me outside into an alley and starts putting his hands down my pants and starts kissing me. I really didn't know what was happening at this point but I was saying this is wrong, you're got your partner and you're my boss and he still wouldn't stop. As soon as I had the chance I went back into bar to get my friend just to help me not do anything stupid because at this point I know I would and he texts me that he is going back to hotel and says I should come, I texted back saying it's wrong I just can't and then he says he is going home not to the hotel and I should have his room if I want. This is really stupid of me and I went back to the hotel after we was done in town because I really did not want to go home and thankfully he was telling the truth that he went home and he didn't show up either.

He has texted me saying he has a meeting until 5pm and will message me afterwards, no idea what he is going to say I just hope he knows what he has done and basically took advantage. Obviously if this all gets out things will get bad but I genuinely like him as a boss and now that this is happened I just hope he says we should talk about it and move on from it.

Glad I've got a week booked off this week (Moving out!) something to look forward to..
 
He has texted me saying he has a meeting until 5pm and will message me afterwards, no idea what he is going to say I just hope he knows what he has done and basically took advantage. Obviously if this all gets out things will get bad but I genuinely like him as a boss and now that this is happened I just hope he says we should talk about it and move on from it.

Hope it's a move-on thing. That's a shitty situation.
 
I need to vent somewhere so I'll dump it here. I'm in a pretty fucked up situation right now.

Last night was our staff party for Christmas, I'm a really bad drunk (you'll see why) and everyone at this point was drunk by 9pm. I went for a cig with my boss and he started hugging me and then.. started feeling my ass. What makes this more fucked up his partner for several years also works here. He started saying I've got a room here tonight (I work at a hotel and we had the party there) so I should go up to his room tonight, I was just laughing playing along with it then I went back inside. He tried to feel my ass all night and wouldn't leave me alone, I have no idea why nobody picked up on what he was doing yet but I went outside with a work friend and told her what was happening and she didn't believe me and I told her to just watch him and me when I go back in. He does it again and she eventually believes me and is proper gobsmacked and tells him that he shouldn't be doing this to me and he agrees but keeps on anyway.

We went into town afterwards and he is doing the same, now he drags me outside into an alley and starts putting his hands down my pants and starts kissing me. I really didn't know what was happening at this point but I was saying this is wrong, you're got your partner and you're my boss and he still wouldn't stop. As soon as I had the chance I went back into bar to get my friend just to help me not do anything stupid because at this point I know I would and he texts me that he is going back to hotel and says I should come, I texted back saying it's wrong I just can't and then he says he is going home not to the hotel and I should have his room if I want. This is really stupid of me and I went back to the hotel after we was done in town because I really did not want to go home and thankfully he was telling the truth that he went home and he didn't show up either.

He has texted me saying he has a meeting until 5pm and will message me afterwards, no idea what he is going to say I just hope he knows what he has done and basically took advantage. Obviously if this all gets out things will get bad but I genuinely like him as a boss and now that this is happened I just hope he says we should talk about it and move on from it.

Glad I've got a week booked off this week (Moving out!) something to look forward to..

Oh I'm sorry to hear this. Guy sounds like a scum bag.
 
I don't get that a lot and I think my thighs are kinda big. They're not massive, but after losing tons of weight by running my legs are kinda strong I realize :X
 
I don't get that a lot and I think my thighs are kinda big. They're not massive, but after losing tons of weight by running my legs are kinda strong I realize :X

How much did you lose? I attribute a lot of the bulk of mine to genetics, but also to the fact that I weight 180, dropped down to 125, and then have put on about 20lbs of muscle.
 
How much did you lose? I attribute a lot of the bulk of mine to genetics, but also to the fact that I weight 180, dropped down to 125, and then have put on about 20lbs of muscle.

I was 200 lbs and lost 70 but I gained maybe 10 pounds since then so now i'm around 145 lbs.
 
Oh hai. Every time I look at your avatar I feel like I'm either looking at a Goomba or a Sontaran.

I need to adjust it, that simpleton's wow face at the studly muscle puts too much focus on the face and not the man!
 
However, I'm having an (to me) amusing issue: I can't find jeans that fit right. I have a 30" waist and 40" butt. I know we have some lifters in here with muscle legs, too. Any recommendations on jeans?
I have this exact problem. None of my old pair's fit me any more and I even ripped a pair of trousers I really liked completely from ass to crotch. I've just been wearing my boyfriend's jeans and sweatpants - so 32" or 34" waist - with a belt or tying them tight. Loose-fit jeans at 30" or 32" should be okay, it's just that with skinny jeans still being so popular finding baggier jeans is going to be a struggle. :P My bf's jeans are Bench, D&G and Levi, so you could try those brands.
 
I have this exact problem. None of my old pair's fit me any more and I even ripped a pair of trousers I really liked completely from ass to crotch. I've just been wearing my boyfriend's jeans and sweatpants - so 32" or 34" waist - with a belt or tying them tight. Loose-fit jeans at 30" or 32" should be okay, it's just that with skinny jeans still being so popular finding baggier jeans is going to be a struggle. :P My bf's jeans are Bench, D&G and Levi, so you could try those brands.

d&g jeans? ballaaaaa
 
Short-ish guy calling in, too. I'm 5'7 or so. I also have a huge attraction to muscle-y boys shorter than me.

However, I'm having an (to me) amusing issue: I can't find jeans that fit right. I have a 30" waist and 40" butt. I know we have some lifters in here with muscle legs, too. Any recommendations on jeans?
I still haven't solved the issue. I'm not sure there is a solution without altering everything. I just use a belt, but it looks terrible.

QuadzillaGAF is the best GAF.

EDIT: Then again I think my problem is far more extreme than you guys. 30" Waist with 25" Quads and 18" calves. It's a mess. God forbid I bulk too. My quad size jumps from 25 to 27+". Shit sucks.
 
I have this exact problem. None of my old pair's fit me any more and I even ripped a pair of trousers I really liked completely from ass to crotch. I've just been wearing my boyfriend's jeans and sweatpants - so 32" or 34" waist - with a belt or tying them tight. Loose-fit jeans at 30" or 32" should be okay, it's just that with skinny jeans still being so popular finding baggier jeans is going to be a struggle. :P My bf's jeans are Bench, D&G and Levi, so you could try those brands.

let's be honest here. we all know how you really ripped it.
 
I still haven't solved the issue. I'm not sure there is a solution without altering everything. I just use a belt, but it looks terrible.

QuadzillaGAF is the best GAF.

EDIT: Then again I think my problem is far more extreme than you guys. 30" Waist with 25" Quads and 18" calves. It's a mess. God forbid I bulk too. My quad size jumps from 25 to 27+". Shit sucks.

I'm at 22" for my quads right now and 16" for my calves pre-workout, no bulking. I'd say that 3" makes a big difference, though.
 
i feel so shit

anyone else confide in their mother only to find she's a closet homophobe? feel like im in a fucking nightmare that i have to live with this
 
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