Art put up a video of the PS3 slowdown between Chris G and Fooblat. Starts around 5:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mqbrQJ8WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mqbrQJ8WU
Fighting Games Weekly | January 14-20 | Debate over peaches or ponies for EVO edition
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Who cares as long as its big enough to be significant in number if entrants and how top players are willing to fly out to it, in which case it was more akin to a major.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
NO NOT AGAIN
But still, why is F.Champ going to work his way all the way through losers just to not show anything against Chris G? What if Chris G didn't make it to grand finals? Was he going to play serious then?
It doesn't matter whose dime it was on in getting Champ to Apex, he's still a sponsored player and his actions are still a representation of his sponsor, which is also why I don't buy this not show your cards argument.
I don't care what is or what isn't a major, but money is money. If Champ actually had some cards to show, he would have shown them to make sure that they actually worked.
As for UMVC3 on the PS3, maybe if the game wasn't rushed out the door, it wouldn't have so many problems. Other game run fine on the PS3. Capcom just needs to fix it.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Are we gonna have to add a Smash circle onto the "is it a major" venn diagram
It was the Northeast crew + F. Champ, right?
EarlyEarly
Member
If it happens once a year, its a major.
My birthday is a major confirmed.
Karsticles
Member
I actually rather like this definition.
toddhunter
Member
It had a NeoGAF thread. So it is a major
KingItachi
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It's funny how the line keeps moving for what is a major lol.
If it has a poverty second stream, then it's a major
atomic moth
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I thought Marlinpie wasn't practicing because of a new job
"God's Beard!"
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APEX barely counts because it's a Smash major, though. And barely anybody showed up for the fighting game side.
Lost Fragment
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Events need at least 5 call Kotaku moments to be considered a major. I only counted 2 at Apex.
SolarPowered
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I didn't know that. I could have sworn that I read of a big $1000 update coming up some time after Apex. It wasn't meant as ammo against DOA5 in particular. My bad if that was implied. Also, if you read my post you'd see how the argument could apply to any of the games and how this is an issue of the poll representing cash donations, NOT the communities themselves. Skullgirls' donations could have come from 5 people for all I know. Stop looking for ghosts where there are none.
I don't know enough about the DOA scene to go off about them all willy nilly.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Holy shit! That's amazing.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
fanatiq vs hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1I6Qb1JeIg
Ragingnight
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I've never experience those ps3 slowdown. Is it the heat that is doing that?
jesus christ that is slow motion
Is Evo forced to use PS3s because Sony sponsors the tournament? Clearly PS3 works perfectly... for everything besides AE and Marvel. Top 128 should use 360s, at least.
RockTurtle
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damn that's actually good.
Parallax Scroll
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The main thing is that they already have a shitload of PS3s from Evo 2009. They're not going to buy a bunch of Xboxes to replace those.
It's lacking any sort of meaningful context.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
It's only a major if Justin Wong attends it.
That 8-Bit strange is awesome :O
Corrected for modernity.
This is pretty terrible all things considered. Spelling errors everywhere and he doesn't even understand the flow of the joke.
fixed
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I really enjoyed the ChrisG vs FChamp grand finals. But damn if that wasn't one of the flow-chartiest sets I've ever seen. Dorm dies, then FChamp's Doom dies. Next, Phoenix either dies or turns dark, and that determines who wins. The only exception was one round where FChamp's Doom died before his Dorm.
AKA 5 bars is the "FChamp wins" progress bar.
AKA 5 bars is the "FChamp wins" progress bar.
Maybe this is just my inner Melee player coming out... but can't players just bring some 360s? Local players. Hell, the Evo staff could start rounding up 360s right now.
This is Evo we're talking about here. Playing a gimped version of the game ain't cool.
As for the "Is it a major?" discussion... who really cares? Are lots of top players there? Yes? Okay then it's a good tournament. Doesn't matter what you name it. Good players=good tournament.
I believe on the Wake Up SRK where they announced the EVO lineup, Mr. Wizard said that non-Capcom fighting games tend to be better on PS3 and they don't want to do mixed system setups.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Isn't Mortal Kombat better on Xbox?
Ragingnight
Member
logistical nightmare still. How would you know which system is which? What happens if you're missing one (or a few?)? What happens if one gets damaged during the tournament? Is it EVO fault?
Also you have to buy the games all over again instead of using the games you had. Its not fair to assume that the people lending the xbox would have all the games needed. Nor would it be to assume that the xbox has the game installed (or even has enough hd to install the game).
ipitydatfu
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just checked the donors lists, holy shit skullgirls has a slim lead over melee :O
I watched the video of the major slow down on the PS3. I have a couple of questions to ask How many PS3 stations where setup with UMvC3 ? Can anyone say that every system was doing this? Massive Slow down's cause of the PS3 would mean that it's reproducible on every system and it happens all the time. Exact same stage, same characters.
I find it odd that if your in a major tournament and your trying to win and there's noticeable slow down on the system your playing on and both players agree with the issue(s) why continue to play on the system ? Move to other system or tell the organizer about the issue so they can handle it. Is there a slow issue in that video ? Yes clearly it is but it would seem to me that it could be a system failure type of issue ie. drive reading error's, drive failing, system failing or even perhaps it's setup issue looking for a network etc.
I find it odd that if your in a major tournament and your trying to win and there's noticeable slow down on the system your playing on and both players agree with the issue(s) why continue to play on the system ? Move to other system or tell the organizer about the issue so they can handle it. Is there a slow issue in that video ? Yes clearly it is but it would seem to me that it could be a system failure type of issue ie. drive reading error's, drive failing, system failing or even perhaps it's setup issue looking for a network etc.
All of them are for that matter. Just that the disparities are less noticeable by the respective communities. Maybe not Tekken, they developed two different versions of what happens when motion was turned off.
On the bright side for Capcom players, they can take it as Capcom games truly tap out the 360. And Fooblat is right Sony should have stopped sponsoring Capcom tourneys, there is nothing for Sony to gain from it.
That slowdown cannot be replicated on every system. That slowdown is most likely related to that single ps3 or either the disc is scratched. Who knows what the problem actually is. It could be a hard drive issue, a gpu issue, or some rare memory leak.
I'll go on a limb and say yes. MK9's biggest issue is the way you install data. On ps3, the game installs data to your hard drive as you are playing (it uses a lot of damn space too, and it only installs partial data as it comes. Really fucking weird). I have had weird slow downs that I couldn't replicate because of that. Once the data is installed it seems to be fine. The biggest slow downs you will find in mk9 is the tower challenges. Some of them are not optimized at all, and if you play training mode, the blood will constantly will build up to a point where the slowdown becomes noticeable. Why do you think rematch takes forever on mk9? It's removing all that blood and hurt body stuff to make sure it doesn't run like shit.
Like others have said Capcom's rush job of UMVC3 didn't help shit. The changing of the UI, and a very minimal optimization done to the particle effects in UMVC3 helped the PS3 version out a lot. Play Vanilla, and do dante's jam session, and then try it on UMVC3. It's jarring as fuck they let the vanilla base game ship as it was.
MT frame work is just better on 360/PC due to the amount of time spent with it versus the PS3 MT framework. I think people should be mad at capcom, and not the PS3's to be honest.
I agree with what you said there and that was what my point was leading to. It's just odd that people seem to whole heartily make it sound like it's the normal on the PS3.
Stabby McSter
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YES MLP TIME
toddhunter
Member
had. Will be interesting to see the last day. With donations only at 2k, why wouldn't you drop say 3-4k to have your game at evo with 100k viewers?
ipitydatfu
Member
cool
Lost Fragment
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A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Fubar duck said things about tekken.
Doesn't matter if MLP is first, the game in second gets the spot while MLP would get an exhibition of sorts since it's not a finished game. So if Melee got second, it would be in Evo. If Skullgirls got second, Skullgirls would be in. Etc. Alongside MLP
Lambda Pie
Banned
it would be crazy if some, say, crazy CvS2 head waited till the last day and donated 20k.