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Deadspin: (Notre Dame football player) Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend is a hoax

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How about a December 4th tweet. Before the resurrection phone call.

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This JayR dude could have been famous by getting this out earlier.
 
I think he's the victim here based on what I've read, the argument that he's gay and created her as a cover is real stretch, as is making her up because he's some sort of sociopath.

Either way though, this guy won't have trouble getting drafted
 
Also it seems Deadspin basically just did a bunch of google digging in light of getting an anonymous email from someone.

Can you imagine the amount of money Notre Dame would have throw at anyone (Joe Schmo) to keep quiet had they gone to them first with this nonsense?

Time to start questioning everything...everyone...
 
eh. thats stretching

He says "This is creepy"...why would he say that (well we know now that the whole thing is very creepy) about his girlfriend writing him a letter? I think the implication (and lie) in this case was that she wrote him a series of letters for each remaining game for him to open and read.
 
He says "This is creepy"...why would he say that (well we know now that the whole thing is very creepy) about his girlfriend writing him a letter? I think the implication (and lie) in this case was that she wrote him a series of letters for each remaining game for him to open and read.

Actually, yup


Matt Fortuna@Matt_Fortuna
Re: Manti Te'o/Stanford letter — they were all allegedly written pre-death, read by siblings before games sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/… #NotreDame
17 Jan 13 ReplyRetweetFavorite
 
Is the gay thing really off base?

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Friends of the "hoaxer" said this and retweated by JayR

He says "This is creepy"...why would he say that (well we know now that the whole thing is very creepy) about his girlfriend writing him a letter? I think the implication (and lie) in this case was that she wrote him a series of letters for each remaining game for him to open and read.

Why did she stop in october then?
Also SI articles says this
Te'o says that Lennay's final letter came before senior day, when the Irish throttled Wake Forest. Now, as Te'o muscles through this season of extreme emotions, he's excited to write its final chapter and grateful for the letters that inspired him to get there.
Didn't he say final letter was stanford?
 
He says "This is creepy"...why would he say that (well we know now that the whole thing is very creepy) about his girlfriend writing him a letter? I think the implication (and lie) in this case was that she wrote him a series of letters for each remaining game for him to open and read.

I agree with you.
 
Actually, yup


Matt Fortuna@Matt_Fortuna
Re: Manti Te'o/Stanford letter — they were all allegedly written pre-death, read by siblings before games sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/… #NotreDame
17 Jan 13 ReplyRetweetFavorite

So who are these imaginary siblings. This fake girl has a whole fake girl family.
 
Also it seems Deadspin basically just did a bunch of google digging in light of getting an anonymous email from someone.

Can you imagine the amount of money Notre Dame would have throw at anyone (Joe Schmo) to keep quiet had they gone to them first with this nonsense?

Time to start questioning everything...everyone...

Kinda hard to blackmail ND with this because even when the story actually broke, no one has any idea what is going on.

You'd just be bringing this to their attention, and instead of paying you down, they get their story straight and take your ass to court.
 
Kinda hard to blackmail ND with this because even when the story actually broke, no one has any idea what is going on.

You'd just be bringing this to their attention, and instead of paying you down, they get their story straight and take your ass to court.

Unless of course they knew he was gay and/or making this up and helped facilitate the entire ordeal.
 
Author of deadspin article

Not buying anything ND says about their "investigation," btw, and a close reading of the timeline of our investigation should explain why.

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) January 17, 2013
 
Author of deadspin article

Not buying anything ND says about their "investigation," btw, and a close reading of the timeline of our investigation should explain why.

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) January 17, 2013

Why would they lie about this? This is so stupid of them
 
Why would they lie about this? This is so stupid of them

ND football and their image as an upstanding, prestigious institution of higher learning is their biggest concern. They would do anything to protect that leading up to the biggest game they've played in 20 years. They probably planned to throw Manti under the bus if anyone ever found out (which it seems has indeed happened).

They would have made a fortune if the football team had won the championship, especially being led by Te'o and his "courage" in the face of "tragedy". A media circus like this breaking out around the football team would hurt their chances of winning the game.

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This is absolutely fucking hilarious. Those two should of realize that when it was getting national attention, it was time to pull the plug. Only made their mistakes shit way worst.
 
Why would they lie about this? This is so stupid of them

No one could know why yet, but they definitely lied about it. ND claims that Te'o came to them about it on the 26th of December and now ND says that Te'o got a phone call from in December from the gf that was supposed to have died in september. And both he and the University still gave interviews and put on performances about how he was rising above this great tragedy in his life.
 
He has admitted that it was a hoax, hence there are no siblings.

He hasnt admitted why he did it yet.

No he claimed there was a hoax done to him, meaning he believed there were siblings at some point, which means there would have had to be a huge cast of actors taking turns calling him to continue tricking him. Among all the other moronic holes in his story.
 
I shouldn't be ranting but people are trying to get at me for not defending the guy considering I'm Samoan/Hawaiian. Saying I'm white washed. Smh. I don't know whether to ignore them or just torch their ass.
 
I shouldn't be ranting but people are trying to get at me for not defending the guy considering I'm Samoan/Hawaiian. Saying I'm white washed. Smh. I don't know whether to ignore them or just torch their ass.

ignore them. you don't have to defend a person because they share your background
 
I understand that but why dig the hole tonight more? They could have just put it all on him saying this is what he told us. But now they implicated in a stupid investigation which doesn't match up with faces

Because people in power do stupid shit to cover things up. See: Penn St and Armstong, Lance. You'd think by now people would learn that the cover up is worse than the crime in most cases.
 
So I just got done reading the DS story and the updates and I come away thinking:

- Manti definitely knew about it and his statement is ridiculous.

- ND are embarrassed and trying to cover it up

Is that a logical assumption?
 
How in the world did no-one in the media even bother to google any of this?

I mean they ask him specific questions about him not attending her service.. so weird.

Transcript from press conference after October 4th game.

http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100412aaa.html

Q. No one would question how any person grieves, but what went into your decision or did you think at all about going back for your girlfriend's service? I understand you had a game that day but what was the decision there?

Manti Te'o: You know, I really wanted to see her. I really wanted to see her. But I knew that she made me promise, you know one day she made me promise that, she said, "Babe, if anything happens to me, you promise that you'll still stay over there and that you'll play and that you'll honor me through the way you play, and know that I would rather have you there." And just make sure that all she wanted was some white roses. White is her favorite color. So she just wanted some white roses and that's all she asked for. So I sent her roses and sent her two picks (interceptions) along with that, so that was good.

If this was just him being hoaxed he is sure playing it all up.

Where did the rose go?
 
Because people in power do stupid shit to cover things up. See: Penn St and Armstong, Lance. You'd think by now people would learn that the cover up is worse than the crime in most cases.
You would think this country would've learned that lesson after Watergate, but no.
Every
Fucking
Time
 
How in the world did no-one in the media even bother to google any of this?

I mean they ask him specific questions about him not attending her service.. so weird.

Transcript from press conference after October 4th game.

http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/100412aaa.html



If this was just him being hoaxed he is sure playing it all up.

Where did the rose go?

Yup. We could ask:
Where did the rose go?
What was the phone number of the chick? Can we see phone records?
 
Where did the rose go?

You know if he really was tricked that would be a good way to prove it, by showing a receipt of you sending flowers to whatever address they gave him. If you are in on it you wouldn't buy flowers for a fake person. But of course that wont happen since he is clearly in on this.
 
I understand that but why dig the hole tonight more? They could have just put it all on him saying this is what he told us. But now they implicated in a stupid investigation which doesn't match up with faces

Supposedly he informed ND of the hoax on Dec. 26th, so they have to come up with a reason they allowed ESPN to keep running the story in the meantime.

So I just got done reading the DS story and the updates and I come away thinking:

- Manti definitely knew about it and his statement is ridiculous.

- ND are embarrassed and trying to cover it up

Is that a logical assumption?

Yes.
 
No he claimed there was a hoax done to him, meaning he believed there were siblings at some point, which means there would have had to be a huge cast of actors taking turns calling him to continue tricking him. Among all the other moronic holes in his story.

There was a fake sibling twitter account.

There's a slim possibility, that he was hoaxed via twitter almost entirely. And then told his Dad and other's that he'd actually met this girlfriend that he had only ever really spoke with online. This turned into a "lie" that snowballed, along with what the hoaxer was doing. He'd have to be dumb to believe a hoax in the first place, so he also might have fallen for the "You shouldn't go to my funeral" line.

And he might have fallen for the fake sister twitter as well.

Like the lies about how he had met the girl, he also would exaggerate the "family support." What was merely a few tweets from an alleged sister online becomes "I couldn't have done this without my girlfriends family." It fits the pattern in the theory.

Of course that's also all possiblel evidence that it was a dumb story he was a part of making up.

But there's a SLIM chance he was hoaxed, and then told a lot of lies about the fake girl who hoaxed him.

So he's either a blatant liar who tried to twist some feel good story for purely selfish reasons.

Or he's kind of an idiot, maybe very little experience with girls, who was hoaxed, and then lied about his online girlfriend enough times to make it seem like he might have been in on the hoax.. when really he was just a guy exaggerating a girl.

How no-one in the media ever bothered to even look the girl up is killing me either way.
 
Here's the thing. ND claims they had investigators for this now.

Manti had supposedly talked to her by phone every night. Which means, if he's telling the truth, there is a real phone number attached to that. And that number will have a real account holder attached to it. Which means the investigators should know exactly to whom Manti was conversing with.

But ND didn't seem to mention anything about knowing who it was. They just said the're keeping everything "private" for now. They could have said "we know now exactly who the girl he was talking with over the phone was but we can't reveal it for legal reasons right now." Nope, instead the guy said something completely different.

Manti has to explain the girl on the other line and who it was really soon otherwise no one is going to begin to buy his side of the story.
 
You would think this country would've learned that lesson after Watergate, but no.
Every
Fucking
Time

Seriously. If I were in charge of Notre Dame I would be looking for any and every occasion to throw Manti Teo under the bus, back it up, and drive it over again. What do they have to gain? Some embarrassment? Yeah, but that's already happening anyway. He doesn't play for them anymore so there's no fear of sanctions. They can wash their hands of him. They have no reason to defend him. They can thank him for his 4 years of great play and pretty much no comment or back away from anything about his extracurricular affairs. But ego, pride and fear get in the way and these morons dig the whole even deeper.
 
Yup. We could ask:
Where did the rose go?
What was the phone number of the chick? Can we see phone records?

So ur with ur linebakr and yur making plays wen the phone rigns. U anser it n the vioce is “wut r u doing wit my bf?” U tell ur linebakr n he say “my gf is ded”. THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
 
You would think this country would've learned that lesson after Watergate, but no.
Every
Fucking
Time

the crime was worse than the coverup in watergate.

the coverup was worse with whatever you want to call clinton's stuff, but that's only because of how trivial the actions he was covering up were.
 
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