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Deadspin: (Notre Dame football player) Manti Te’o’s Dead Girlfriend is a hoax

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And he claims he never visited her because she insisted he not miss any practices/games. Which is a weak argument but there you go.

He also claims to be the first person to speak with her at the hospital after waking up from her coma.. in a confusing story where he seems to claim she woke up, but couldn't speak for a long time.

How in the world would that happen over the phone?

He's basically claiming he spent hours with her half brain-dead on the phone just listening to her breathing.

But in the story, he doesn't say he's on the phone.. so it's almost implied he's claiming he was in fact coincidentally at her bedside in the hospital when she finally spoke.
 
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He also claims to be the first person to speak with her at the hospital after waking up from her coma.. in a confusing story where he seems to claim she woke up, but couldn't speak for a long time.

How in the world would that happen over the phone?

He's basically claiming he spent hours with her half brain-dead on the phone just listening to her breathing.

But in the story, he doesn't say he's on the phone.. so it's almost implied he's claiming he was in fact coincidentally at her bedside in the hospital when she finally spoke.

Clearly her first thought after waking from the coma was to call him. Makes total sense!
 
Clearly her first thought after waking from the coma was to call him. Makes total sense!

Yeah.. totally! ;)

Eventually she came out of her coma and she started having memory problems and she couldn't remember because of the accident. That's how much damage she had to her frontal lobe. She had memory problems. I was actually the first person that she talked to. She was breathing, breathing. When I talked to her, I would say, "Babe, do you know who this is?" I knew she knew who it was because her breathing would pick up. I was like, "Relax, chill. Breathe slowly. Breathe slowly." And then, that was when she first started to speak was that conversation. I was like, "Babe, I love you. I love you." Very slightly she said, "I love you."
 

odds are the people responsible for the fundraising thing weren't privy to what some people in the administration already knew. It's a big bureaucratic school like everyone else. This seems like a case of the one hand not knowing what the other is doing to me.

Clearly her first thought after waking from the coma was to call him. Makes total sense!

They were in LOVE! Love finds a way!

Question for the phenomenologists out there: if you love someone who isn't real, is the love still real via embodiment?
 
odds are the people responsible for the fundraising thing weren't privy to what some people in the administration already knew. It's a big bureaucratic school like everyone else. This seems like a case of the one hand not knowing what the other is doing to me.

Was thinking the same thing.

They were obviously trying to keep the ordeal quiet. They wouldn't have gone and told the schools media organization to change any of their behavior.

Probably the opposite. Considering they also watched as Te'o continued to mention his girlfriend on TV.
 
And he claims he never visited her because she insisted he not miss any practices/games. Which is a weak argument but there you go.

Has he actually made this claim? I was under the impression that up until yesterday he was at least kinda pretending that he had a normal, regular relationship.

It's pretty difficult to claim that her death had this profound effect on you when you never visited her in the hospital and never went to her grave.

Probably the opposite. Considering they also watched as Te'o continued to mention his girlfriend on TV.

When does Te'o claim he learned about the hoax, and when was the last time he mentioned his girlfriend in the press?
 
When does Te'o claim he learned about the hoax, and when was the last time he mentioned his girlfriend in the press?

According to ND, he knew in early December, December 6th to be exact.

2 days later he mentioned her in an interview.

IIRC also again in January at pre-BCS interviews. Those would be post-ND supposedly finding out, which was December 26th.

Here's TMZ on the 6th/8th correlation:

http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/17/manti-teo-hoax-notre-dame-athletic-director/
 
Has he actually made this claim? I was under the impression that up until yesterday he was at least kinda pretending that he had a normal, regular relationship.

It's pretty difficult to claim that her death had this profound effect on you when you never visited her in the hospital and never went to her grave.



When does Te'o claim he learned about the hoax, and when was the last time he mentioned his girlfriend in the press?

I will admit I don't know the answer to this for sure, as I've heard more about this one the local sports radio station than I've read online. I'll look around and see if I can find a quote.

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Deadspin said:
Sept. 22, 2012: Kekua's funeral takes place in Carson, Calif. (The Associated Press puts it in "Carson City, Calif.," which does not exist.) Te'o skips the funeral, saying Kekua had insisted that he not miss a game (Los Angeles Times, http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/10/sports/la-sp-1211-dwyre-manti-teo-20121211). Her casket is closed at 9 a.m. Pacific time, according to Te'o.

It was the funeral I was thinking of, not the hospital.
 
Unless he's a sheltered man child, I can't think of any way he didn't know. Did he not have Skype? FaceTime? ... A phone of any sort?!

No, there's no way.
 
I will admit I don't know the answer to this for sure, as I've heard more about this one the local sports radio station than I've read online. I'll look around and see if I can find a quote.

More to the point though, I don't get how you can claim that you never met this girl because she didn't want you to miss practice. What, for 12 months he had constant games and practice? Even in the off-season and when school was not in session?

What loving girlfriend doesn't want to see her boyfriend at for the span of a year? What loving boyfriend would not visit his girlfriend for the span of a year?

I think his behavior is just too incredibly dumb for him to have any hope of pulling the "I was fooled" card......maybe before the Sports Illustrated interview, but definitely not after. And the SI interview is just the tip of the iceberg -- you know he probably has spoken to other players and students and media outlets and claimed to have physically met this chick.
 
I don't get something:

So did his teammates never ask him if he ever met her, or any details on that? Even if you didn't ask directly, something like that would stick out. Something as simple as "You must miss her, when was the last time you guys met up?"
 
I don't get something:

So did his teammates never ask him if he ever met her, or any details on that? Even if you didn't ask directly, something like that would stick out. Something as simple as "You must miss her, when was the last time you guys met up?"
Yeah. Did he have zero friends?
 
I don't get something:

So did his teammates never ask him if he ever met her, or any details on that? Even if you didn't ask directly, something like that would stick out. Something as simple as "You must miss her, when was the last time you guys met up?"

Interviews with some of his teammates have shown that at least some of them knew or suspected it was fake and that Manti was doing it for the attention.
 
Te’o Hoaxer Ronaiah Tuiasosopo Auditioned For The Voice And Had A “Sob Story” About A Car Accident

And finally we've learned a little bit more about Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, the man we believe to have posed as Manti Te'o's girlfriend, Lennay Kekua. What we do know about Tuiasosopo so far? He sings. He's religious. He, like Lennay, supposedly got into a car accident. And we know that he knows Te'o.

And here's a little bit more, via Us Weekly. Tuiasosopo once auditioned for The Voice and came armed with a "sob story." Here's Us Weekly:

"He had this insane sob story before [he sang]," an insider reveals to Us. "It would make for great TV."

According to the source, Tuiasosopo told producers he and his cousins started a Christian band together and were on their way to perform at a youth conference in Nevada when they got into a "massive" car accident. He claimed a truck crashed into their vehicle, sending them flip-flopping all over the freeway. He also said doctors thought one of them might have been brain-dead, but miraculously, everyone was fine.
 
Tuiasosopo is nuts, man. People want to know who would be crazy enough to concoct a year-long hoax with no perceivable end game in mind? This guy.
 
Holy Shit, the guy who wrote that Te'O Sports Illustrated cover story STILL believes that Te'O was duped:

From Deadspin:
"I've obviously been maybe branded a little bit naive for writing what I did, but I mean I don't think he has it in him to be a part of this," he said. "I think he was duped, hook, line and sinker."

Good god, man. Most of the time when I've seen someone claiming that Te'O is innocent, I assume it is because they haven't read the recently published SI transcripts. But now the interviewer that he so flagrantly lied to says he thinks Te'O is innocent. Seriously? You believe that shit about him being on the phone with her 8 hours a night? That he never once asked to visit or interact with this supposed girlfriend? That his voice brought her out of a coma? That he MET HER on many occaisions?
 
One little white lie and all you guys act is no one ever said a simple white lie that nobody got hurt with
Nobody got hurt? What about the girl that Te'o not only had hit with a car but gave her Leukemia, as well?
 
Holy Shit, the guy who wrote that Te'O Sports Illustrated cover story STILL believes that Te'O was duped:

From Deadspin:
"I've obviously been maybe branded a little bit naive for writing what I did, but I mean I don't think he has it in him to be a part of this," he said. "I think he was duped, hook, line and sinker."

Holy shit, man. Most of the time when I've seen someone claiming that Te'O is innocent, I assume it is because they haven't read the recently published SI transcripts.....but now the fucking guy that he lied to says he thinks Te'O is innocent. Seriously? You believe that shit about him being on the phone with her 8 hours a night? That he never once asked to visit or interact with this supposed girlfriend? That his voice brought her out of a coma?

I'm reading through the SI transcript again and holy shit does none of this make any sense. Te'o is lying. Period. Either now or then or both.

1. If he never met her why did his dad, who got the information from Te'o, tell the South Bend paper they met at Stanford in 2009?

but in the SI transcript he says:

SI: How did you meet her?
TE'O: We met just, ummmm, just she knew my cousin. And kind of saw me there so. Just kind of regular.
SI: How long were you dating? I know that can be a complicated question.
TE'O: Oct. 15 was the official date. Of last year. I've known her for four years. So we've been friends.
SI: So you dated for about a year.
TE'O: Yeah.

So this "official date" was entirely online? REALLY?!

and then the story about her in the hospital:

SI: She couldn't communicate?
TE'O: No. She could only breathe. One of the miraculous things was when I talked to her and she would hear my voice her breathing would pick up. Like quickly, and then she would start crying. But her breathing would quicken, and she would start crying. So her brother was in the room with the nurse. They were monitoring her. She said, "Who is she on the phone with?" Her boyfriend. She was like, "That's amazing. She doesn't do that with anybody else." So that happened. And then she flatlined and we were losing her.

So that's what, 3 people at least? All in on the hoax?

SI: I just want to make sure. Lennay had an iPad. She wrote a series of 12 letters to you every Friday before a game. Who read these to you?
TE'O: Her brother or her sister. Noa is her twin brother.
SI: How long was each letter?
TE'O: It was about a page.



Continuing:
TE'O: So right when I landed, I was expecting to get a voicemail saying she's gone. So I landed and I had a voicemail from her brother saying, "Brother, call me back right now." So you can imagine what's going through my head. I was like, "What am I going to do? How am I going to take this?'"And so I called him back, the doctor came in and he saw something and he wants to try some treatment on her to see if it works. From there she slowly started to get better. Slowly. Eventually she came out of her coma and she started having memory problems and she couldn't remember because of the accident. That's how much damage she had to her frontal lobe. She had memory problems. I was actually the first person that she talked to. She was breathing, breathing. When I talked to her, I would say, "Babe, do you know who this is?" I knew she knew who it was because her breathing would pick up. I was like, "Relax, chill. Breathe slowly. Breathe slowly." And then, that was when she first started to speak was that conversation. I was like, "Babe, I love you. I love you." Very slightly she said, "I love you."

I'm not a doctor but HOW IN THE HELL DOES HE GET TO BE THE FIRST PERSON TO TALK TO HER? DID SHE COMA DIAL HIM?!? There had to be a family member in the room who she would recognize first rather than a voice on the phone.
 
Nobody is saying that he belongs in prison but for obvious reasons its a fascinating story so naturally people are going to dig and dig to find more.

He'll fit right in with the Lions.


Nobody got hurt? What about the girl that Te'o not only had hit with a car but gave her Leukemia, as well?

first to cast a stone without a sin

You guys need a new sarcastic detector ;p
 
Is this the excuse Notre Dame fans will use for getting blown out? A la Ohio State getting blown out by Florida because some players were mad at Troy Smith.
 
I know it was joked about yesterday, but in the SI article the way he is just rattling off dates, times, places, whatever and then drops it out there:

"Melelengei"

That is some serious Keyzer Soze shit.
 
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