This secret sauce thing reminds of me of listening about the Cell's hidden powers. Will be interesting to see the end result once E3 starts.
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This secret sauce thing reminds of me of listening about the Cell's hidden powers. Will be interesting to see the end result once E3 starts.
Proelite
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Cell is brute force. None of these secret sauces are about brute force.
I hope one of them takes off. I wish Cell did too, but PC hardware makers just brute forced things instead.
The only relevant information is in the OP. Nothing since but speculation.
Baconsammy
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I got ripped apart for saying at least one shit dev will release a sub 720p res game.
Me and I-Lo
I know it sounds crazy but I just think it will happen. Might not be one of the big boys but I just feel it in my bones.
So Elder Scrolls VI will be sub 720p on either Durango or Orbis.
No.
/dead
it reminds me of extended universe arguments. it's a handy tool for working out people's allegiances though, like a crystal ball which projects all their wildest fantasies.
the only reasonable course is rational scepticism and with an open mind to new information.
No.
So you don't want to see the end of super high priced cards? I know that would eventually cripple Nvidia and AMD... But why not?
Perfect guess! You are right.
I wouldn't call Cell Brute Force because devs needed to code to the advantages of the SPEs.
Baconsammy
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Just pointing out that there's always at least one guy that doesn't want what's best for everyone.
Depth you say? Hmm....glasses free 3D support for all games? Holographic gaming? Make your crazy predictions people!
How about you share some of your findings then?
Mobile market, grid computing and desktops.
Making the better GPUs?
Phonomezer
Banned
Can't wait until we know everything about the consoles, with concrete sources.
I'm starting to think this 'secret sauce' thing is just a hopeful and extravagant attempt by certain people to try boost Durango and close the performance gap the actual rumoured specs seem to show.
It's gone from a sure thing, to maybe not existing, to being not understandable, to now being something completely different.
I'd be happy to be proven otherwise mind, since for me personally, the ideal situation is for both consoles to be as powerful as possible.
It's gone from a sure thing, to maybe not existing, to being not understandable, to now being something completely different.
I'd be happy to be proven otherwise mind, since for me personally, the ideal situation is for both consoles to be as powerful as possible.
Busy making Geforces and Tegras. Nvidia is doing much better than AMD these days.
Nvidia makes more than enough being the GPU manufacturer of choice within the enthusiast and non-Apple/home console embedded system markets.
Edit: Beaten.
Dead Prince
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do they plan to have a smaller power brick or at least get it inside the system?
wasn't a fan of the brick with it's own fan.
wasn't a fan of the brick with it's own fan.
3DS says there's still a few people who give a shit about handhelds.
Tech dudes! Can someone shed some light on this:
1. The clock speed of the CPU. I see people shouting "the architecture is different!" but what exactly do you mean? I'd like someone to flesh this out.
2. 8GB DDR3 vs 4GB DDR5. The latter is obviously faster, but in a real world scenario, which is better? More ram, or faster ram?
1. The clock speed of the CPU. I see people shouting "the architecture is different!" but what exactly do you mean? I'd like someone to flesh this out.
2. 8GB DDR3 vs 4GB DDR5. The latter is obviously faster, but in a real world scenario, which is better? More ram, or faster ram?
XtremeXpider
Member
These specs don't seem too power hungry so it'll likely be at least smaller than the beast of a power brick the 360 had.
Would that not be the same as Illumiroom?
If you want evidence that is irrefutable, then I suggest waiting for actual games to be shown.
ColonelColon
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HSA (heterogeneous system architecture) will be Gandalf's Homemade Secret Wizard Sauce for PC.
Chuck Norris
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Maybe in Japan, hardly lighting the charts up elsewhere
I think we need to pause for a moment and appreciate the fact that these next gen machines will see the death of graphical issues that haunted consoles for a long time such as screen-tearing, jaggies, lack of AF, below 30 frame rate, etc. They certainly won't be missed.
You'll continue to see these issues. You won't magically have new developers with new consoles. It'll be the same assholes killing resolution and framerate in order to throw in more 'shiny' and bullshots.
They will definitely have a smaller power brick going by the specs, this thing isn't going to use as much power as the 360 from what I can see.
I want to say that'sthejoke.png but I honestly can't tell
this is what i mean. posters like proelite have entered this schrodinger's cat realm where such is their lack of collateral, evidence or consequence for their assertions (which are repelled which much more vigour on more technically minded boards), their "i know something that you don't know" insight is essentially worthless. especially when they seem to be so involved in pushing a narrative.
i don't read his posts and see any conflict or deduction, just best case scenarios. that kind of poster is useless to me.
Chuck Norris
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Not a tetchy, but it seems for the RAM a big factor will be how much Durango in particular uses for the OS
oversitting
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LukasTaves
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Since you said no to kinect, something to do with the framebuffer, then?
Does not help that they are either employed by Microsoft or their sources are instead. Perhaps the conjecture from GAF sources should be coupled with more concrete backing from now on or something? I mean, the whole secret sauce thing is so vague and amiss at this point..
I do find it funny that Steve and Thuway, two people who were largely disregarded long ago, seemed to be so accurate with information, and so early on too.
XtremeXpider
Member
I remember a patent from Microsoft for free Stereoscopic 3D (hardware?), but I can't find the link 
Oh now you know you're gonna hurt someone's feelings with this do you? Someone that's bound to be very entertaining though so keep it up!
They're pretty good at tip toeing around NDA.
Because we all know what happens when the Ninjas find the source...
Please make 1080p mandatory for those next generation consoles. They are more than capable of pushing good IQ with 1080p.
James Sawyer Ford
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For the record, I'm not of the opinion that Durango is "weak".
Just that the specs we have to go by indicate that there's a significant difference in bandwidth and GPU performance between Durango and Orbis based upon what we know.
This isn't a far fetched view, Eurogamer (at first glance) concurs.
I'm skeptical that accelerator units will provide that much of a difference (as both systems will have them)...but this is all subject to change with more information. But based on what we know, the performance divide is larger than last gen even if using similar components. Again, subject to change, but that's my outlook of things so far.
Possibly, but more than that, I think. I don't totally understand it, so I don't really want to get into it.
I actually remember the exact moment that Thuway got some real info, before he even shared it. He had been arguing the possibility of 4 Tflops in Orbis one week then the next week told me my expectations of 2.2-2.5 Tflops were too high. I was confused on his position change until he started elaborating.
It was a real bitch letting go of the teraflop numbers once more solid "real-world" numbers came in. But I was gently reminded that they aren't indicative enough to do so.