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Iwata implies he may resign over poor business performance
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TheUnknownForce
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Today is Nintendo is Doomed day. Fire everyone and hire Ken Kutaragi.
You can't deny that the Galaxy games were better as platformers than Sunshine.
You're right. It would be a good game instead of an excellent game like it is.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
It's obvious where the blame should go.
Gunpei Yokoi.
He planted the seed of "good enough"
Gunpei Yokoi.
He planted the seed of "good enough"
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Yeah man, superior controls and superior graphics = worse game.
Opinions on SS aside, I think in retrospect releasing it for Wii was a mistake, and it pushing it on to Wii U would have made way more sense.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Yeah, of course it's about the money, but I really like Iwata. He's had a great way of presenting to the people, and there's something about him I can't quite pinpoint. I just really like the guy. I'd be really sad to see him go.
No, if anything, Twilight Princess (cross-system) style of release would have been best.
but NSMB is bigger than 3D Mario and Zelda combined...
HarryDemeanor
Member
I don't know how I would react if Iwata resigned.
It's NOA's job in the US, and NOE's job in Europe for marketing. NCL is in charge of Japan.
Nintendo of Canada represent.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Why would that be "best"? How did the GameCube release of TP benefit anybody other than poor Nintendo fans?
Steve Youngblood
Member
But does it sell hardware? There's no doubt in my mind that NSMB U will sell well throughout the life of the platform, but in an alternate universe where Mario Universe was also ready to launch, which game do you want to lead off with? It also doesn't help that NSMB also doesn't make particularly good use of the GamePad.
Wow, looking at that table, you begin to understand why Nintendo has made a lot of the stupid choices they've made. It used to work.
? By releasing it on GC also, they had more sales potential. I don't know how much the GC version sold, but I would bet it was over a million. The Wii version had motion controls, so it had a selling point over the GC version.
Fourth Storm
Member
That was me. I want Sakurai's head!
No, seriously I only question why the 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 teams are under such intense pressure to produce in a timely fashion when Sakurai's titles are seemingly granted as much time as necessary.
I anticipate another Mario Kart title with modest enhancements. Meanwhile, after the glory that was Galaxy, there are certainly high expectations for the follow up. I would love to see these games get more time in order to add more of everything, as Sakurai gets to do with his projects.
And 3DS did need a killer app at launch. KI would have fit the bill nicely, but for whatever reason, it was not ready - or the pressure was not on to get it ready. Perhaps the initial plan was to let 3rd parties flourish and when things got scary, it was felt KI would not suffice. They needed surefire hits at that point. Who knows? But I mean no disrespect in my armchair analysis. Should we rather be calling out individual programmers and such? Haha
In the sizzle reel, wasn't it shown that KI was going to come out in January?
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Giving Wii U a strong exclusive and taking advantage of it's power seems more beneficial than the extra sales you could get releasing two versions. Alas Nintendo don't have my vision.
TheUnknownForce
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Not for system-selling and not for a new and expensive console.
Sell systems first, then sell them with the big-hitter software. NSMBWii didn't sell the Wii at launch; a new Zelda did. NSMBU will have legs, not denying that, though.
ShockingAlberto
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No, I seemingly just misunderstood, my apologies.
What Nintendo needs to do, and what they should have done a year ago, is go into full pre-360 Microsoft mode. They need to aggressively court 3rd parties and, most importantly, they need 1 big AAA exclusive. Nintendo needs to go to Epic or Rockstar or some other big, popular 3rd party dev and contract them to make a big-budget, AAA dudebro-ish game that appeals to the PS360 audience. They then need to launch it with a Halo-sized marketing campaign. They need to show the "core gamer" that the Wii U has the kinds of games they care about, and they need to show 3rd parties that there is a market for their games on Nintendo hardware.
Dreams-Visions
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I mean, all they have to do is stop trying to feel the low-end hardware spec and uber-casual market.
That's all. Who wouldn't be hype as fuck about a Metroid Prime game with PS4/Xbox720 visuals? I want old Nintendo that wasn't afraid to compete on specs back. The Nintendo that understood the value of the 3rd party. If Iwata has to go, then send his ass packing.
That's all. Who wouldn't be hype as fuck about a Metroid Prime game with PS4/Xbox720 visuals? I want old Nintendo that wasn't afraid to compete on specs back. The Nintendo that understood the value of the 3rd party. If Iwata has to go, then send his ass packing.
Well yea, the selling point would be better graphics, and off-screen play (or inventory management and whatever else can be done) with the GamePad. They wouldn't lose sales at all from releasing both versions like that.
Fourth Storm
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Not a problem. It's been a crazy day.
MrCunningham
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Time to bring Yamauchi's mighty pimp hand back out of retirement I guess...
But really I think Iwata may be a little to premature on contemplating leaving. The guy needs to stop apologizing year after year and figure out what it takes to recapture some of the Western market they have been loosing. Personally I think they need to give NOA and NOE more control over their respective regions. Maybe get some more Westren studios to develop as second party.
But really I think Iwata may be a little to premature on contemplating leaving. The guy needs to stop apologizing year after year and figure out what it takes to recapture some of the Western market they have been loosing. Personally I think they need to give NOA and NOE more control over their respective regions. Maybe get some more Westren studios to develop as second party.
Well yeah, but for all we know, his replacement could steer Nintendo in the smartphone/casual market due to pressure from shareholders. They want success like the DS and Wii. Having a powerful, more traditional console that's aimed at core gamers isn't going to give them that (see: Gamecube). Especially in the current market (also see: Vita). That's not to say that I want them to go the ios way, but Iwata feels that to succeed, they need to differentiate themselves from the competition. And at least he's rejecting the notion that they should go the smartphone route.
VIDEOGAMESYAY
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Iwata has a lot of experience, it would be a shame for Nintendo to make him a "sacrificial lamb" just to make a point. Demote him and have someone else take over at his position if necessary, that would shake things up without causing further damage to the company as a whole IMHO.
and yet he's responsible for some of the best that Nintendo offered. He fucked with the VB but he was the real heart and soul of Nintendo.
I wouldn't be surprised if Miyamoto set him up to fail with the VB.
It's no mystery that Metroid has been absolutely raped under Miyamoto's stewardship!
Bloody hell. You can't be serious.
Iwata needs to man the fuck up.
1. Sack Reggie and get someone who knows games to take over. Send that assclown back to MTV and take his stinkin TVii and Wii bullshit with him.
2. Sideline Miyamoto. Looks like this has already happened and the guy has been moved to small projects. Nintendo has stagnated. He's the John Cena of Nintendo, keeping the new talent down and stealing the limelight and glory.
3. Release some fucking games dickheads. It's not brain science! Nintendo has the largest gang of developers around. They need to start working to 2 year schedules. Not as if they are releasing content loaded games these days.
Do it now Iwata and stop apologising. Less jaw jaw. More War War.
1. Sack Reggie and get someone who knows games to take over. Send that assclown back to MTV and take his stinkin TVii and Wii bullshit with him.
2. Sideline Miyamoto. Looks like this has already happened and the guy has been moved to small projects. Nintendo has stagnated. He's the John Cena of Nintendo, keeping the new talent down and stealing the limelight and glory.
3. Release some fucking games dickheads. It's not brain science! Nintendo has the largest gang of developers around. They need to start working to 2 year schedules. Not as if they are releasing content loaded games these days.
Do it now Iwata and stop apologising. Less jaw jaw. More War War.
Those numbers (well, except for the launch to date ones) are from the fiscal year gone by. It's still working. To some extent, at least.
The accountants. We had two Metroid Prime titles released on a system that was graphically competitive with its opposing numbers. They did okay, but they sure as hell didn't print money.
JasoNsider
Member
Eat Children with the pitch perfect reply again. Could not have said a single thing better myself.
Super Metroid. One of the greatest games ever made.
Since then we had nothing for nearly 10 years and then the series got absolutely raped senseless with 2 GBA games that lacked the great level design and 3 cookie cutter western FPS games in quick succession. Completely ruining the special aura that Metroid had.
They can never take Super Metroid from me but they've really tarnished the Series, much like Square has with Final Fantasy!
The less said with farming it out to Team Ninja the better!
Shameful treatment of a legendary series.
i said wat
ChuyMasta
Member
He doesn't need bombs- he needs release dates.
Time to bring Yamauchi's mighty pimp hand back out of retirement I guess...
But really I think Iwata may be a little to premature on contemplating leaving. The guy needs to stop apologizing year after year and figure out what it takes to recapture some of the Western market they have been loosing. Personally I think they need to give NOA and NOE more control over their respective regions. Maybe get some more Westren studios to develop as second party.
Nintendo would have even less 3rd Party support if Yamauchi came back , that guy is the reason Nintendo is in this mess.
What does Super Metroid have to do with Gunpei Yokoi? He wasn't even a producer on that game. Even the original Metroid, was mainly the young designers at R&D1.
How could you fault one of the GBA games for "lacking great level design" when it is a remake of the original? Both GBA games were fantastic and offered two flavors for Metroid fans. I mean at the very least they are a leagues better than Metroid 1 and Metroid 2. Your argument is very inconsistent.
Every Metroid since Super has sucked...although the GBA versions get a pass...they're like Diet Coke. Better than nothing I suppose!
JordanN
Banned
So I was browsing wikipedia and one of the first things to show up was Iwata resigning. Haha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoru_Iwata
Man, now I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Do I want to see Wii U sell like shit so Iwata can finally leave Nintendo? But that would mean I would have to put up with x100 Nintendo trolling on Neogaf.
Decisions, decisions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoru_Iwata
Man, now I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Do I want to see Wii U sell like shit so Iwata can finally leave Nintendo? But that would mean I would have to put up with x100 Nintendo trolling on Neogaf.
Decisions, decisions.
brochiller
Member
I'm really not sure if you're serious.
Wasn't it Shigeru Miyamoto's insistence on cartridges on the Nintendo 64 that drove the third party publishers away? Once SONY came into the picture, that brief Nintendo exodus created a new userbase away from Nintendo. Things have never been the same since.
It's called trolling.
brochiller
Member
Why do people want Iwata to resign? Do you honestly think his resignation will mark a change of direction Nintendo where they will get back in the tech race?
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