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[Pagusas]

not sure how I feel about stick placement in this.

You feel in love and happy, thats how you feel.

 

[Zoramon089]

Also, fuck, with Nintendo not exactly abandoning but still downplaying the motion plus type stuff I was hoping Sony would carry the torch but I guess they're also relegating it into an extra accessory and not a primary method. Fuck fuck fuck.

But all that stuff is built into the gamepad (and even launch games support the motion+)

 

[Captain Smoker]

This sounds pretty lame, 19 years with the same controller (basically), I wonder if they're ever going to try something with a bit more changes (most of these things won't get used after two years anyway).

 

[Duffyside]

I'd pay the extra 100 if it ment we'd get rid of GUI clutter on screen and move it to the controller.

Because looking down at your controller constantly is a small price to pay for a clean TV screen. /sarcasm

 

[IchigoSharingan]

I just want a good d-pad, stick and triggers. That is all!

Share button better be positioned so it doesn't interfere with my gaming!

Agreed. Positioned somewhere like in a deserted dump truck in the Navajo valley or some shit.

 

[-COOLIO-]

ugh i hate it. i dont want another 7 years of the same controller. im sure theyll have a move alternative down the road but everyone knows the controller that a console ships with will forever be the primary

 

[The_Monk]

Plllleeeeeeeessee no. just no, I hope they abandoned the sticks being at the same level, the dpad should NOT be where it is at, it should be like the 360 controller. Then I'll be happy. The dual sticks were always just bolted on to the PSone's first dual stick controller, and they've kept that way for 3 gens now. Enough, move it and let us be rid of that stupid design.

I really do hate the dual shock, hate hate hate it. its to small for my hands, I always feel cramped holidng it, and its gotten so bad that I'll buy all multiplatform games on the 360 unless there is a really good reason to buy them on the ps3.

I'm praying sony changes it up, especially if the ps4 is substancatially more powerful

It's perfect the way it is, go climb a mountain with those gigantic hands!

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Okay, the share button is pretty cool.

I love the saved films in Halo, will be awesome to have a smaller version of that system that works with every game you play.

 

[BadWolf]

I'd pay the extra 100 if it ment we'd get rid of GUI clutter on screen and move it to the controller.

Yeah I'm sure adding an extra $100 to the PS4's price tag will do wonders for its sales.

If WiiU is anything to go by, a second screen on a controller isn't a big deal for consoles.

 

[Duxxy3]

I'd pay the extra 100 if it ment we'd get rid of GUI clutter on screen and move it to the controller.

I would not.

 

[badcrumble]

Is a screen as sensitive as a pad? Can it be used as a mouse? A screen that small wouldn't add much value anyways whereas you can still work with a smaller touchpad without the functionality being too diminished.

If the touchpad contains the start and select buttons, then it can't be freely used either.

 

[TimeEffect]

So this is literally what the controller looks like...except maybe put an S on the PS button and change the 3 to a 4

I wonder what it'd look like if they filled out the bottom space below the analog sticks.

I was fucking right!!!!!

I dont mind this, actually. Just put back the analog stick where it rightfully belongs.

 

[artist]

Adding a touch pad would also make web browsing so much easier. They could also possibly drop XMB, not that I care.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I'm a bit confused by the supposed replacement of those 3 buttons, I appreciate the pad could 'simulate' all of them but doesn't that limit the options for the pad to be used in a more general sense? Perhaps one or more buttons will be repositioned somewhere else.
Maybe Share replaces the PS button, but what would you do to pause?

 

[Uno Venova]

Some people don't want to look down at a second screen and would prefer to keep their focus on the TV. I personally enjoy using dual screen gaming but some people find it distracting and keeps them from being totally immersed in it. Touch Pad can also pave the way for UI's not having to be designed around a d-pad and can be more PC like too.

Yeah if they going to have to put something touch on the controller, something you don't need to look at is the best case scenario.

 

[unaveragekid2]

I can't understand why the left stick in the place of the D-pad is an advantage

 

[GlamFM]

Bummer. I was hoping for a complete redesign. Dual shock in size and shape is pretty much unusable for me.

 

[NeoUltima]

Share button sounds like an idea marketing came up with. It is a great way to spread word of mouth.

Anyway...hope this thing has better triggers and analog sticks.

 

[KAL2006]

whats up with people wanting a wiiU controller? If the touchscreen is small (and not inflating the size of the controller); what's the point? the touch pad from the sounds of it; won't be use for more - its to control the 3 buttons it replaces?



cost/function

The point is a touchpad probably costs barely anything, a touchscreen would cost much more and would be a battery drainer.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I hope they just use the same size dpad and buttons as the Vita to give the touch pad enough space. Dat Vita dpad should be used for every PlayStation.

 

[Duffyside]

This is gonna be the Vita all over again, isn't it? Wow us with awesome feature after awesome feature (more powerful, share button, etc), and then fuck it all up with some stupid touch gimmick that you're going to force into every damn game. Sonofabitch.

 

[params7]

I'm loving the share feature. Its one of the things I hated about consoles (we couldn't participate in screenshot threads).

15 mins of gameplay recording without penalty sounds amazing too, but 15 mins is too low if they really want to implement this feature, its pretty much useless. Something is better than nothing though but I hope in the future they are somehow able to limit the recording to the hard drive space available.

 

[funkystudent]

Well this news is dissapointing.

Same size is lame. Really wanted a fresh take on the design and A touch panel with no screen is useless for UI navigation and gameplay

 

[ShroudOfFate]

I'm generally confused with the hate for the dualshock. People say that it's not meant for "big hands" but I've got some pretty big hands and it's just as comfortable if not more so than the 360 controller.

 

[TimeEffect]

So, can we confirm the death of the breakable/Move hybrid controller? I wonder what will become of Move...

 

[Duxxy3]

If the touchpad contains the start and select buttons, then it can't be freely used either.

They could implement gestures to replace the buttons. Swipe from the left to use select, swipe from the bottom to use the playstation button, swipe from the right to pause.

 

[dragonfart28]

Well this news is dissapointing.

Same size is lame. Really wanted a fresh take on the design and A touch panel with no screen is useless for UI navigation and gameplay

Also rules out off screen gameplay like the Wii U gamepad can achieve.

 

[Giant Panda]

So, can we confirm the death of the breakable/Move hybrid controller? I wonder what will become of Move...

It would have been so good.

 

[Fragamemnon]

The rear touch is the pretty much the worst thing about the Vita, but even then it's not completely awful unless developers make it awful (read: Uncharted: Gimmick Abyss).

A small touchscreen is an even worse idea as it leads to "The Danger of Cool Things", were you think you have this awesome idea to use the touchscreen but it's actually terrible in practice.

 

[bakedpony]

If the touchpad is good enough to be used with our thumbs ala mouse, this could change the way we play FPS on consoles.

 

[Pachterballs]

Also rules out off screen gameplay like the Wii U gamepad can achieve.

derp

A controller, at ¥13440, converts to USD$172

 

[zoukka]

I'm generally confused with the hate for the dualshock. People say that it's not meant for "big hands" but I've got some pretty big hands and it's just as comfortable if not more so than the 360 controller.

The grips are smaller than the xbox controller. I can see how that could cause problems to some.

Personally I've grown to like the dualshock except for the stupid triggers they added with the PS3.

 

[TheContact]

Wow this sound awesome! I love the controllers, I just hope they don't increase the size to make room for the touch pad

 

[Sobriquet]

I can't understand why the left stick in the place of the D-pad is an advantage

Because it's the primary input method, and deserves to be where your thumb naturally rests while holding a controller.

 

[Evolved1]

ok thats godlike

I have a grin from ear to ear.


Though I find the touchpad completely pointless. Would rather have the start select buttons. But at least they didn't go full-on gimmick.

 

[muu]

touchpad, not touch screen? The hell?

You'd think they'd have learned something from the Vita.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I'm generally confused with the hate for the dualshock. People say that it's not meant for "big hands" but I've got some pretty big hands and it's just as comfortable if not more so than the 360 controller.

DS2 is good, but I'm not keen on the DS3 even though it's the same shape. Triggers are badly designed and I think the centre of mass is too far forward.

 

[Palette Swap]

This is gonna be the Vita all over again, isn't it? Wow us with awesome feature after awesome feature (more powerful, share button, etc), and then fuck it all up with some stupid touch gimmick that you're going to force into every damn game. Sonofabitch.

That's spot on. Touch can be OK for UI navigating and point and click games but it's overall terrible.
I blame the DS. It was a great console despite touch not thanks to it.

I hope designers don't force it on us in games. The only things worse than regular QTEs are touch or waggle QTEs.

 

[IsntChrisL]

A touchpad? That's certainly a half-step at aping the Wii U Gamepad, but is it even worth it? It could mimic mouse movement but it sounds like the area would be pretty small. And they really, really should NOT let it replace the Start/Select buttons.

I dunno, it's good that Sony's adding in more functionality, I just don't think they went deep enough (assuming this is true).

 

[TheFightingFish]

Touchscreen is going to be a pain for custom arcade sticks . Hopefully DS3 is still supported in some matter.

 

[zoukka]

If the touchpad is good enough to be used with our thumbs ala mouse, this could change the way we play FPS on consoles.

lol

(have you ever tried gaming with a laptop touchpad?)

 

[surly]

They're going to ship the PS4 with yet another controller where your thumbs fall on the D-pad and face buttons naturally? I hope not.

 

[Zoramon089]

If the touchpad is good enough to be used with our thumbs ala mouse, this could change the way we play FPS on consoles.

Would prefer gyro controls for extra precision. They were used REALLY well in REvelations. Stick for normal aiming, gyro for precision.

That's spot on. Touch can be OK for UI navigating and point and click games but it's overall terrible.
I blame the DS. It was a great console despite touch not thanks to it.

I hope designers don't force it on us in games. The only things worse than regular QTEs are touch or waggle QTEs.

You're crazy if you don't think touch ADDED to the DS

 

[ShroudOfFate]

The grips are smaller than the xbox controller. I can see how that could cause problems to some.

Personally I've grown to like the dualshock except for the stupid triggers they added with the PS3.

Yeah, the triggers are a huge problem. One that hopefully gets fixed with the ds4.

 

[Pachterballs]

touchpad, not touch screen? The hell?

You'd think they'd have learned something from the Vita.

I think you'll find that they DID.

and I think it won't be a big touchpad too. It'll probably be a tiny one where you swipe to control the three functions they're replacing. And that's it.

 

[The Mana Legend]

lol

(have you ever tried gaming with a laptop touchpad?)

True story: Back in the StarCraft 1 days, I used a touchpad because we didn't have a mouse.

It was not good.

 

[Killthee]

So if it's an unlabeled touchpad and not a touchscreen, how will we be able to tell where the start/select button functionality is?

And if it's *labeled,* what's the advantage that it holds over buttons?

I'd rather have buttons, but barring that, I'd rather have a touchscreen than a blank touchpad.

Kotaku said the touchpad clicks in.

"British site CVG speculated last week that, because they'd heard the PS4's controller was "trying to emulate the same user interface philosophies as the PS Vita", that meant it would feature a touch screen. Instead, the Orbis' controller features a capacitive touch pad, like you find on the back of a Vita (presumably it's also on the back of the PS4's controller), that can recognise two-point multi-touch. The entire pad can also be "clicked" for an additional input button."

They can have start/select depending on where you click the touchpad.

 

[Fragamemnon]

Also rules out off screen gameplay like the Wii U gamepad can achieve.

that's one of the features that the Vita is supposed to perform. Maybe PS4 will have function to make this feature more ubiquitous.

 

[VariantX]

Also rules out off screen gameplay like the Wii U gamepad can achieve.

Well they still possibly use the vita in some way for that.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Would prefer gyro controls for extra precision. They were used REALLY well in REvelations. Stick for normal aiming, gyro for precision.

The more options the better. Golden Abyss was really nice to play because of the gyro aim, shame they're only doing it for the sniper weapons in Killzone Merc. But I would love to try it using a trackpad, if it's big enough for wide aiming.