Is JT's "Suit & Tie" Jay-Z's worse verse of all time?

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It's possible that he didn't have that much to work with, and the song itself is somewhat mediocre, but I cringe every time Jay's verse comes on.

Edit: Also, what do you do if you're Justin Timberlake and you don't think Jay's feature verse is up to snuff? Do you call him out on it, or just let it go (and as a result ruin your creation) because he's Jay-Z? How do you tell him?

"Hov, I'm not really happy with your verse. I feel like you need to step it up."


http://youtu.be/KReoTOZK9W8?t=43s

All black at the white shows
White shoes at the black shows
Green card for the Cuban linx
Y'all sit back and enjoy the light show
Nothing exceeds like excess
Stoute got gout from having the best of the best
Is this what it's all about? I'm at the rest-
...aurant with my rant disturbing the guests
Years of distress, tears on the dress
Try to hide her face with some makeup sex
This is truffle season
Tom Ford tuxedos for no reason
All Saints for my angel
Alexander Wang too
Ass-tight Denim and some Dunks
I'll show you how to do this young!
No papers, catch vapors
Get high, out Vegas
D'usses on doubles, ain't looking for trouble
You just got good genes so a nigga tryna cuff you
Tell your mother that I love her cause I love you
Tell your father we go farther as a couple
They ain't lose a daughter, got a son
I show you how to do this, huh!

Just...what?

I guess his verse on Monster could come in a close second but at least it has some semblance of a flow.

http://youtu.be/UtNvN5WWSJU?t=2m22s

Sasquatch, Godzilla, King Kong, Loch Ness
Goblin, ghoul, a zombie with no conscience
Question: What do these things all have in common?
Everybody knows I'm a motherfucking monster
Conquer, stomp ya, stop your silly nonsense
Nonsense, none of you niggas know where the swamp is
None of you niggas have seen the carnage that I've seen
I still hear fiends scream in my dreams
Murder, murder in black convertibles
I kill the block, I murder the avenues
I rape and pillage your village, women and children
Everybody want to know what my Achilles heel is
Love, I don't get enough of it
All I get is these vampires and blood suckers
All I see is these niggas I made millionaires
Milling about, spilling they feelings in the air
All I see is these fake fucks with no fangs
Trying to draw blood from my ice-cold veins
I smell a massacre
Seems to be the only way to back you bastards up
 
Jay-Z's presence on JT's track felt unnecessary and ruined the vibe of the song.

Aside, re: Monster... any verse with the following in it isn't remotely bad.

All I get is these vampires and blood suckers
All I see is these niggas I made millionaires
Milling about, spilling they feelings in the air
All I see is these fake fucks with no fangs
Trying to draw blood from my ice-cold veins
 
Also, what do you do if you're Justin Timberlake and you don't think Jay's feature verse is up to snuff? Do you call him out on it, or just let it go (and as a result ruin your creation) because he's Jay-Z? How do you tell him?
 
Monster is one of his best verses...

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Jay-Z's presence on JT's track felt unnecessary and ruined the vibe of the song.

Aside, re: Monster... any verse with the following in it isn't remotely bad.

LOOOOVE! I don't get enough of it
All I get is these vampires and blood suckers
All I see is these niggas I made millionaires
Milling about, spilling they feelings in the air
 
Jay's guest verses on College Dropout (when he was "retired," I think) are definitely his worst.

Who else you know been hot this long
Started from nothing but he got this strong
Built the ROC from a pebble, peddled rock before I met you (Wooooo)
Peddled bikes, got my nephews pedal bikes because they special
Let you tell it man I'm falling
Well somebody must have caught him
Every fourth quarter, I like to Mike Jordan them
Number one albums what I got, like four of them
More of them on the way, the 8th wonder on the way
Clear the way, I'm here to stay
Y'all can save the chitter chat, this and that
This is Jay, dissing Jay will get you maced
When I start spitting them lyrics niggas get very religious
Six Hail Mary's please Father forgive us
Young, the archbishop, the Pope John Paul of y'all niggas
They way y'all all follow Jigga
Hov's a living legend and I'll tell you why
Everybody wanna be Hov and Hov's still alive

Content-wise I guess it's cute and clever and all, but his delivery is so slow and weird on this verse (not to mention the guy yelling THE ROC IS IN THE BUILDING at the beginning, which makes me laugh every time). I'm a huge Ye/Jay stan but I've never enjoyed this verse. There's also something really amusing about the toughest boast/threat he could come up with here is mace.

Also, people hating on the Monster verse? Blasphemy, that verse is amazing.
 
First time hearing the song, and I was liking it until his verse popped up. Pretty bad indeed. And the monster verse was good.
 
But really I can forgive a few verses I don't like here and there. At least he hasn't made another album with Linkin Park, eurgh.
 
monster verse wasnt bad, but LOOOOOOOVE is still cringe worthy/hilarious.

his verse on suit & tie was pretty average however. the beat change is dope but i could have done without jay on that song
 
This is a song where they use an oven for an analogy for something hot. All critical thought is already out the window.
 
This videoclip is amazing. Nice plug for Tom Ford too.


And yeah, the JayZ verse is afwul. What the fuck is he even talking about?
 
Jay has about a trillion verses. Of course he going get worse and worse. That started years ago. Basically around the black album although Threat is incredible on that one.
 
Opinions; how do they work?

Yeah, how do they? Or do they only work in one direction in EightBitNateistan?

The Monster verse from Jay is nowhere even near his best. OPINION.

EDIT: Off the top of my head, so you don't think I'm just hating wildly
22 Two's
Too much West coast dick licking, and too many [REDACTED MOFOS] on a mission
Doing your best Jay-Z rendition
Too many rough motherfuckers, I got my suspicions
That you're just fish in a pool of sharks [ALSO REDACTED], listen
Too many bitches wanna be ladies, so if you a ho
I'm a call you a ho, too many bitches are shady
Too many ladies give these [NOT ON MY GAF] too many chances
Too many brothers wannabe lovers don't know what romance is
Too many bitches stuck up from too many sexual advances
No question; Jay-Z got too many answers
I been around this block too many times
Rocked too many rhymes, cocked too many nines, too
To all my brothers it ain't too late to come together
Cause too much black and too much love, equal forever
I don't follow any guidelines cause too many [BISH'S EYE IS TWITCHING] ride mine
So I change styles every two rhymes
Hah, what the fuck
That's 22 two's for y'all motherfuckers out there, nahmean?

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D'Evils
Whoever said illegal was the easy way out
Couldn't understand the mechanics
And the workings of the underworld, granted
Nine to five is how to survive, I ain't trying to survive
I'm tryna live it to the limit and love it a lot
Life ills poisoned my body
I used to say fuck mic skills
I never prayed to God, I prayed to Gotti
That's right it's wicked
That's life I live it
Ain't asking for forgiveness for my sins, ends
I break bread with the late heads
Picking their brains for angles on
All the evils that the game'll do
It gets dangerous, money and power is changing us
And now we're lethal, infected with D'evils

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Never Change
What, the streets robbed me, wasn't educated properly
Well fuck y'all, I needed money for Atari
Was so young my big sis' still playin with Barbie
Young brother, big city, eight million stories
Old heads taught me, yung'un, walk softly
Carry a big clip, that'll get [LOL NOPE] off me
Keep coke in coffee, keep money smellin mothy
Chains is cool to cop but more important is lawyer fees
That's how it is now that's how it always be
I never change, this is always me
From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom
 
I know this is "so GAF" but I can't stand any of his verses. I've never understood how he became even remotely popular.

Can't touch tha Mo City Don
 
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