Visualante2
Member
I'm just jealous I couldn't get in on that black friday bundle in Europe! Wonder how significant that was in the sales...
Ubisoft FY 2012-13 Q3 Sales Call [WiiU/Vita Sales, AC:L 600K, PC/Console Split, More]
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They can probably talk about their costs, but aren't willing to talk about how much they are spending in the fiscal year in particular since it hints at a release window.
Some publishers have though like EA, but EA is will to annoy console vendors way more than Ubisoft.
Yeah. It's better than I would have expected. Plus they're getting higher revenue on those sales. Plus, it'll obviously have extended revenue when the sales take it down to the CAG masses.
AranhaHunter
Banned
I think your numbers are correct.
krimsoncharge
Member
You wont need one.
That's a kind of crazy NDA, if they can't even give a ballpark of what developing games for the new systems cost (distinguished from what developing Title PS4 Project costs). If a company is asking an investor for money to put into developing a video game, you'd expect the company to provide what that will cost and what they think the return will be.
This makes sense, though.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I have always felt Vita owners are very avid buyers of new content. Hopefully that picture is being painted to all the publishers. Sure it may not have a lot of owners right now, but those owners will buy your games.
1st Course
Member
For reference Far Cry 3 had a peak of around 19,949 concurrent players on steam:
http://steamstatshistory.appspot.com/list
http://steamstatshistory.appspot.com/list
Particularly since the game was part of the biggest selling bundle last holiday. I would guess that AC:L would have more physical than most titles.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
It was bundled heavily. I bought the game with the Vita and memory card on Black Friday for $180. It could have been any game in the box and I still would have bought it.
Agreed and while they're at it, they should kill Uplay as well.
ScepticMatt
Member
I personally prefer steamgraph
http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=220240&from=1353366000000&to=End+Time
it does seem to have really long legs
Pretty much every game has a bundle.
Anyways Ubisoft is satisfied so thats good.
Father_Brain
Banned
600K for Liberation is not a bad number by any means, all things considered, but it remains to be seen whether that actually translates into substantive further support from Ubi or any other Western third party.
Was the bundle physical? I'd assumed it was a download code.
Heh, I can feel your gritted teeth
50:1 ratio. Interesting.
What do people usually say? 20:1 is a good reference number?
I have a feeling they're going to see if their "ace in the hole" works first. I'm honestly skeptical as to whether or not the free Stadium remake is gonna work, but I'm sure that's their motivation.
Crag Dweller
aka kindbudmaster
Nothing on Rocksmith. I hope it did well enough for a sequel.
I hope the digital growth is a sign they're going to keep at it with their DD only 'speculative' titles. From Dust and Outland were two of my favorite Ubisoft titles this past Gen. Both were beautiful and different from most of the other stuff big publishers are throwing out these days. It would be a big bummer if Ubisoft abandoned this initiative.
pharmboy044
Member
Yeah, I really hope they lower the price soon. It's a great system that everyone should at least give it a shot.
I think ratios are diluted if we talk about long legs. CS: GO has more players than CS 1.6 according to Valve but CS 1.6 tops it in stats constantly.
Was the bundle physical? I'd assumed it was a download code.
Heh, I can feel your gritted teeth
Eh, if Vita continues doing like 100k per month WW outside of Holidays, there's not such a big need of gritting teeth.
Not that I'm not surprised by AC's result. It's true that a big amount of those copies is due to bundles, but it's still pretty respectable. If the bundles had fisical copies of the game and not download codes, those DD numbers could also be a sort of sign for the next future for everyone: if 15% of total copies is possible on Vita, I'd say sales numbers just for copies sold through retailers are not so reliable for console market anymore. For everyone, from PS360 to 3DS (that has an insanely high connection rate, over 80%, in US and Japan)to Wii U too.
AranhaHunter
Banned
I honestly think the 90-120K AC:L sales from PSN is more impressive than the 600K total. I don't think AC:L had a sales either, it's always been $35.99
Assuming sales in dollars, that's a revenue of $3.24 - $4.31 million, with a 70/30 split that would mean Ubi revenue was $2.26 - $3.02 million, with Sony's revenue being $.97 - $1.29 million off PSN sales.
Also proves that ratings should never be used to try to extrapolate a game's sales. AC: L had something like 1600 ratings.
Assuming sales in dollars, that's a revenue of $3.24 - $4.31 million, with a 70/30 split that would mean Ubi revenue was $2.26 - $3.02 million, with Sony's revenue being $.97 - $1.29 million off PSN sales.
Also proves that ratings should never be used to try to extrapolate a game's sales. AC: L had something like 1600 ratings.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Here's a random tidbit (not exclusive to Ubisoft), but going along with their digital attach rates... on Wii U for some of the big launch titles, was around 2-3%
Granted, that could be different now as we're a bit further than launch.
I'd hope Nintendo gamers have learned to connect online a bit more since October. They did a terrible job learning to connect their Wiis
Granted, that could be different now as we're a bit further than launch.
I'd hope Nintendo gamers have learned to connect online a bit more since October. They did a terrible job learning to connect their Wiis
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
15%-20% digital,that's at least 90k right? That's fantastic. Sony has got to be making a killing off of vita memory cards.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
AC:L was on sale (along with the digital copy of AC3 I believe) for a whopping 2 day weekend sale lol (which I can't recall happening on PSN very often). I picked up mine digitally for roughly $20 or so.
And yeah Sony has to make a nice sum off their crazy priced memory cards if the digital rate for other publishers is anywhere near that high.
Here's a random tidbit (not exclusive to Ubisoft), but going along with their digital attach rates... on Wii U for some of the big launch titles, was around 2-3%
Granted, that could be different now as we're a bit further than launch.
I'd hope Nintendo gamers have learned to connect online a bit more since October. They did a terrible job learning to connect their Wiis
Sounds like Nintendo is ruining the average.
What does this mean for NPD threads? We have no idea which titles are doing strong digital sales.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Lack of ZombiU mention/sales is very... interesting.
Glass Rebel
Member
Great PC numbers, now imagine if uPlay actually wasn't a huge pile of shit but closer to Origin and Steam.
Here's a random tidbit (not exclusive to Ubisoft), but going along with their digital attach rates... on Wii U for some of the big launch titles, was around 2-3%
Granted, that could be different now as we're a bit further than launch.
I'd hope Nintendo gamers have learned to connect online a bit more since October. They did a terrible job learning to connect their Wiis
You mean 2-3% of total hardware sales or total sales per game?
Is there a comparable data for 3DS right now?
OldJadedGamer
Banned
What other games were bundled with a limited edition unit, 3 months of PS+, PSAllStars, and memory for $180?
It was the physical game.
I guess Ubisoft expectations were very low or they think ACL is still gonna sell any significant number after the holiday season. I mean, 600k is probably not very far away from what RE Revelations sold (if not more) and we all know how that ended.
Maybe there were some hats made of money that made them happy...
Maybe there were some hats made of money that made them happy...
GuitarAtomik
Member
Good to hear. It's a good game (so far that I've played) and I was afraid it was going to get steam rolled at the end of the year. I guess releasing in December out of the way of the big November releases actually helped it stand out.
Duxxy3
Member
Man, that was a hell of a deal. Shame that's not the usual price and bundle.
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I'm still going by this, as I haven't heard anything to the contrary:
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
The Assassin's Creed Liberation number includes bundles right?
How does Ubisoft get paid for bundles? Do they make the same amount per unit sold? Who pays this amount?
How does Ubisoft get paid for bundles? Do they make the same amount per unit sold? Who pays this amount?
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. Road was referring to worldwide numbers, Ubisoft was as well with Liberation. You're citing US only numbers where Revelations sold less than in Japan.
Sorry, but I'm not following. What contrary to what?
Those are only the physical sales for the United States. Ubisoft is reporting ACL shipments and digital sales for the entire world.
If you're talking about Revelations, Over 150k in the US + 280k in Japan = 430k physical sold-through at least in these two markets alone. When you consider the rest of the world (Europe, Canada, Australia etc.), then it's not impossible Revelations have shipped, say, 500k. But, that is just my guesstimation, not a fact.
Good point.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
% of total units sold that came from DD