House of Cards - S1 on Netflix - Spacey & Fincher - *UNMARKED SPOILERS FOR ALL OF S1*

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Talon said:
Now, it's hard to divorce those two spheres because, well, there are barely any television shows based in DC nowadays. At least this isn't Homeland.
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oh man, that show got stupid really quick. Early in season 2 when
Brody was hanging out with the joint chiefs watching live video of them try to take out Abu Nazir, and Brody shot Nazir a text message to duck or whatever
. I quit watching the next episode.
 
HalfBakedProphet said:
oh man, that show got stupid really quick. Early in season 2 when
Brody was hanging out with the joint chiefs watching can video of them try to take out Abu Nazir, and Brody shot Nazir a text message to duck
. I quit watching the next episode.
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Aw, you missed out on two seriously quality episodes. Some of the best stuff on TV.

Then it promptly took a giant nosedive. I still hold out hope, if only just...
 
I know a guy who has worked in the secret service, he said they would never allow cellphones into the room in a situation like that. That kinda killed it for me

Edit: the last episode I saw
Brody killed that guy in the woods while talking to his wife on the phone
. I was done
 
Matt said:
And I said it's an OK show, and I enjoyed watching it. It's just hard to watch a show about a place and field that I spent years devoted to and not be distracted by its inaccuracies. And I said that's my problem and not one I expect many others not involved with politics to suffer from.
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Actually, I had a second thought on this.

It's a shame that Carville/Madigan K Street show never made it. Now, that was interesting, but I think it was too "inside baseball" for a massive audience.
 
Talon said:
Knowing the context of the television show helps. It comes from a British show that was essentially a Shakesperean drama about power. That's the core it.

The show never pretended (to me at least) to be a document about politics in DC.

Now, it's hard to divorce those two spheres because, well, there are barely any television shows based in DC nowadays. At least this isn't Homeland.
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Oh I'm well aware of where it came from. I saw the British series :-)

Everyone that is saying it's just a show, it doesn't need to be accurate, you are 100% correct. The show should focus on telling a good and compelling story, and HoCs succeeds enough at that to be entertaining.
 
Matt said:
Oh no, there are a ton of problems with the show. Basically it is in no way an accurate portrayal of how politics work in general or how DC operates. I was just listing some things there that I noticed that Dax, for example, would not.
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I was actually wondering, though, what are the more serious inaccuracies that perturbed you?

I don't think anyone (any skeptic, I guess) is really convinced that Oh, so this is what it's like in DC! No special knowledge required to roll your eyes at times.
 
Talon said:
It's a shame that Carville/Madigan K Street show never made it. Now, that was interesting, but I think it was too "inside baseball" for a massive audience.
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Agreed. The show was super intriguing and talk about blurring the lines between reality and fiction. But I think it was too much for most audiences.
 
Jesus fucking Christ.

At first I had a grudging admiration for Frank.

But wow, just finished episode 11, and I'm in total shock. This guy is a complete and total sociopath. I mean, I should've realized that since the opening scene of episode one, but JESUS.
 
Just watched Episode 8.

Threw me off a bit, and lost some of the momentum of the show. The Russo part was alright, but Frank's soul-searching felt a little unnecessary to me. I guess it maybe shows him as human, at a time when it was getting hard to believe it.

I guess it is more fair to judge it at the end of the season - but I could only watch one episode tonight and i'm a little disappointed.
 
Just finished episode 4. Been too busy to watch this at a fast pace like I wanted, but holy shit, it's amazing. I have a ton of questions from that episode, but I'm gonna wait until at least episode 5.
 
HalfBakedProphet said:
oh man, that show got stupid really quick. Early in season 2 when
Brody was hanging out with the joint chiefs watching live video of them try to take out Abu Nazir, and Brody shot Nazir a text message to duck or whatever
. I quit watching the next episode.
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The hell man? Thanks for fucking spoiling the season.

Too much to ask to keep spoilers about unrelated shows out of this thread?
 
Foxy Fox 39 said:
this is why I love this show its so realistic.
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I would never describe this show as realistic.

Finished it, btw.
Show got damn good in the later episodes. I want to see what's going to happen next.

I think Episodes 3 and 6 are the weakest of the series. Both for similar reasons.
They are both ridiculous and over the top. The peach thing was just stupid, and didn't really add much anyways. I've already voiced my opinion about the "blow me" scene in episode 6, and I think the way that events were portrayed was kind of hokey and really dumbed down. The scene where Frank feeds the protesters irked me as well. That's the oldest trick in the book...
 
Just finished the show. Wow. So, so good.
sucks that they left it on a major cliff hanger though. This shit BETTER get a second season


One thing from the last few episodes that left me confused was
the whole situation with Tusk. So did the Pres have any intention of making Tusk the VP? There was a point in St. Louis where Francis realized he was the one being vetted by Tusk, not the other way around, but then he somehow used that to realize that Tusk and the President were screwing him over? That part left me really confused. Not sure what exactly that was all about and how SanCorp played into it


Also
were we meant to believe that Frank and his old college buddy fucked?
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Just finished the show. Wow. So, so good.
sucks that they left it on a major cliff hanger though. This shit BETTER get a second season

One thing from the last few episodes that left me confused was
the whole situation with Tusk. So did the Pres have any intention of making Tusk the VP? There was a point in St. Louis where Francis realized he was the one being vetted by Tusk, not the other way around, but then he somehow used that to realize that Tusk and the President were screwing him over? That part left me really confused. Not sure what exactly that was all about and how SanCorp played into it
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It's ordered for two seasons - 26 episodes.

1. The President was vetting Frank through Tusk.

2. Tusk had used his influence with the President to keep Frank in Congress/out of the Secretary of State job.

3. Tusk had Frank's fate in his hands, so Tusk wanted to use Frank to get something he wanted.

4. Frank didn't want to be beholden to Tusk without knowing what the "favor would entail."

5. As a result, since Tusk had a financial major interest in nuclear power, Frank went to Sancorp (oil/gas company - don't ask why the hell they're in Atlanta) and tried to make a play at Tusk's money - forcing him to reveal his cards.

6. Tusk knew about this because he got to Remy.

7. Something, something, Tusk got into the Sancorp action by buying a shitton of stock.

8. Tusk meets Frank in this position, seemingly having the upper hand.
 
Talon said:
It's ordered for two seasons - 26 episodes.

The President was vetting Frank through Tusk.
Tusk had used his influence with the President to keep Frank in Congress/out of the Secretary of State job.
Since Frank knew the situation, Tusk wanted to use Frank to get something he wanted.
Frank didn't want to be beholden to Tusk without knowing what the "favor would entail."
As a result, since Tusk had a financial major interest in nuclear power, Frank went to Sancorp (oil/gas company - don't ask why the hell they're in Atlanta) and tried to make a play at Tusk's money - forcing him to reveal his cards.
Tusk knew about this because he got to Remy.
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ahh so Tusk as VP was never actually in play, and Tusk had no interest in that job. That's where I got a little confused towards the end. It was just more power plays.
 
Sweet Jesus, Chapter 6 was insane. The last ten minutes had me gasping for air.

This show better be getting nominations out the ass next year. I also expect a Golden Globe/Emmy for Kevin Spacey, with possible nominations for Robin Wright and Corey Stoll.
 
zou said:
The hell man? Thanks for fucking spoiling the season.

Too much to ask to keep spoilers about unrelated shows out of this thread?
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are you joking? You knew the show I was referencing, which season I was referring too and I spoiler tagged it. You have no one to blame but yourself
 
Episode 6.

Goddamn with that single byline repeated over and over and over again in the mass media outlets. Really reflects on the way our MSM networks work with the soundbytes nowadays.

Also can't believe Frank Spinella = Mikey Palmice from the Sopranos.
 
Bladenic said:
This show better be getting nominations out the ass next year. I also expect a Golden Globe/Emmy for Kevin Spacey, with possible nominations for Robin Wright and Corey Stoll.
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I could not agree more with your sentiment! I found everything about the show to be excellent. Netflix has demonstrated that not only can it create programming but that it can create amazingly good programming. Television will never be the same again, and I, for one, am happy about that.
 
I don't know what it is with Kate Mara. She definitely has energy, but there were a lot of scenes in Season 1 where I shook my head. Some of her lines were hokey, but they became worse with the way they were delivered.

Was it bad writing or is she undertalented?
 
Mully said:
I don't know what it is with Kate Mara. She definitely has energy, but there were a lot of scenes in Season 1 where I shook my head. Some of her lines were hokey, but they became worse with the way they were delivered.

Was it bad writing or is she undertalented?
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She's not a good actress, though personally I think she's actually doing really well in this series; certainly the best role of hers I've seen, at least.

Finished episode 8 last night, really digging this show though I'm still unsure as to what long game Frank is playing here.
 
Bladenic said:
Sweet Jesus, Chapter 6 was insane. The last ten minutes had me gasping for air.

This show better be getting nominations out the ass next year. I also expect a Golden Globe/Emmy for Kevin Spacey, with possible nominations for Robin Wright and Corey Stoll.
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God I hope so, it's so fucking good. Written so well, the acting is impeccable, especially Spacey. Dude just plays a damn good antagonist.
 
Mully said:
I don't know what it is with Kate Mara. She definitely has energy, but there were a lot of scenes in Season 1 where I shook my head. Some of her lines were hokey, but they became worse with the way they were delivered.

Was it bad writing or is she undertalented?
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I never got a feel for her character, I thought she was really unlikable. I guess I'd like some back story to explain why she's is the way she is.

I thought the acting was fine though, I'd blame the writing
 
That's where I remember Kate Mara from. Shooter. Holy shit. She's 30-years-old?!

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I like Kate Mara but I agree in that I don't quite feel like she's amazing or anything in this. Certainly the weakest from the main cast, although she is the youngest. Rooney definitely got the better acting talents though.
 
Bladenic said:
I like Kate Mara but I agree in that I don't quite feel like she's amazing or anything in this. Certainly the weakest from the main cast, although she is the youngest. Rooney definitely got the better acting talents though.
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I'm just shocked he's 30. She looks about 24.
 
Fantastical said:
I would never describe this show as realistic.

Finished it, btw.
Show got damn good in the later episodes. I want to see what's going to happen next.

I think Episodes 3 and 6 are the weakest of the series. Both for similar reasons.
They are both ridiculous and over the top. The peach thing was just stupid, and didn't really add much anyways. I've already voiced my opinion about the "blow me" scene in episode 6, and I think the way that events were portrayed was kind of hokey and really dumbed down. The scene where Frank feeds the protesters irked me as well. That's the oldest trick in the book...
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I didn't read your spoilers because Im still on episode 11, but I say its realistic in the little things.
 
Talon said:
Corey Stoll

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You are blowing my mind, man. Great actor, this guy. I was wondering where I'd seen him before.

I just started watching this series last night, on episode 5 now. Where I'm standing now, all the characters save maybe one are a rather contemptible lot, but it makes the show exciting to anticipate the house to crumble in one way or another.
 
Talon said:
It's ordered for two seasons - 26 episodes.

7. Something, something, Tusk got into the Sancorp action by buying a shitton of stock.

8. Tusk meets Frank in this position, seemingly having the upper hand.
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note: final episode spoilers.

What I dont understand is
in the scene @ freddy's ribs, during the meeting Tusk seems to give in to Franks speech about "working as equals" and agrees to recommend him as VP -- ie; Frank gains the upper hand (leaves his offer on the table and begins to walk out...).

So I guess my question is, what gives Frank the upper hand over Tusk? I haven't given it a second look yet but it I remember Frank noting that if he's not chosen, the president would only have four days to find a new VP.
 
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