Destructoid: PS4 controller prototype & devkit photo, [Up: New Photo/Info In OP]
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Fighting games, racing games, sports games. Which is important.
megashock5
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Technically, though, the 360 pad is symmetrical for most genres. Probably why I prefer the layout on it. It's only asymmetrical for dual stick games (and I refuse to play FPS games on a controller). Using only your left stick, your thumbs are in equal positions on the 360 pad. Which is what matters when talking about symmetry. Visuals are irrelevant unless you're OCD. Symmetry should = are you're opposing thumbs in equal positions. If so, the buttons and left stick are symmetrical on 360. So IMO it's a stupid argument either way. Because you're thumbs can be symmetrical or asymmetrical on both controllers. It all depends on whether you're using one or two sticks.
Assuming it's shaped like a 360 controller, that would be kind of silly considering how off it would be to have the main input in the d-pad position on the 360 pad. The DualShock works a lot better for switching between the d-pad and analogue stick.
How's he having a mini-meltdown? He's pretty obnoxious in how he formulates his opinions, but he's mostly just defending himself from other people attacking him.
Xplatformer
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So much this.
Concave tips, sticks further apart. I wouldn't need to every buy another shitty 3rd party controller and I'd stop wishing for the 360 controller on my Playstation.
plutoknight
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I agree with this, actually! I've been using a 360 controller a lot more lately because I've been playing games on my PC, and I prefer the actual analog stick to the PS3 one (not the position; the stick itself).
Catherine is unplayable with the analog stick, IMO. That's the best example I can give.
Yeah, racing games only applies to the "lets you move" part.
Throwaway123456789
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Well technically, you haven't seen anything.
"You seen't nothing, yet!"
What is MS go symmetrical in the same way as Nintendo have, with both sticks in the upper position?
You dont see any rage in his posts?
ALBOFIGHTER
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If there is no touchscreen on ds4, I hope they at least make an app for your phone to text, navigate UI and zoom in and out in the web browser.
T.M. MacReady
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Wait, no more analog face buttons? Why?
Wouldn't that be preferable anyways?
BruceLeeRoy
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At least your dedicated.
weekend_warrior
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Graphics Horse
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Arguably if you're only browsing yes. It's already a feature of Sony's Google TV, so I'd expect it.
Who said that?
Graphics Horse
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Check the OP vgleak button list. Aside from legacy games, which could be solved by connecting a DS3, I don't have a problem with it. The vast majority of games act like it doesn't exist, and I wouldn't be surprised if most DS3 owners are even aware it exists.
Absolutely. However, "wrong." isn't a discussion.
My feelings are fine, but you carry on being obnoxious if it makes you feel better.
Manmademan
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yeah, analog is useful for triggers, but it's a rare game that uses the analog face buttons for anything.
Metal gear does and....that's about it off the top of my head.
I agree and I think it's a good change. Digital face buttons tend to feel better to me anyway and the analogue functions were so touchy that they were a pain to use in the few games that did.
Exactly. It's such a standard feature nowadays for smart tvs/media streaming devices. If Sony doesn't allow you to control everything OS related through iOS/Android on day one, I'm going to be stunned. Because it would show a complete lack of market understanding. People want to navigate all this on their phone/tablet, not some controller. Leave the controller for the actual games.
Which games used them? And how? I didn't even know the DS3 could do that.
To be fair, there really isn't much to discuss on such a non-issue. The idea that the thumbs need to be symmetrical/asymmetrical is ridiculous. What matters is the shape of the controller. As long as they take their stick configuration into consideration for the design, it will be comfortable.
I would love to use my tablet as a remote. It really should be a standard feature.
MGS2 and 3. If you stuck up a guard with a lethal gun you could slowly lift the button to put it away without firing.
Graphics Horse
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So what are the odds on the controller containing a depth sensor like Leap Motion under that glossy black surface? I am intrigued by this idea as it looks just the right size and shape for the final Leap Motion design to fit right inside. The sensor tech should.be extremely cheap but it would require broadcasting a stereo 'greyscale' image wirelessly to the PS4 very frequently.
The technology would turn the touch surface into an interactive volume of 8 cubic feet above the controller. The Move-like tracking would give the PS4 an absolute reference for your finger positions to within 0.1mm when inside the controller sensor's volume.
It's all a bit Kinect, yes, but with a sensor that's very near your hand(s) instead of aimed at your whole body from across the room.
The technology would turn the touch surface into an interactive volume of 8 cubic feet above the controller. The Move-like tracking would give the PS4 an absolute reference for your finger positions to within 0.1mm when inside the controller sensor's volume.
It's all a bit Kinect, yes, but with a sensor that's very near your hand(s) instead of aimed at your whole body from across the room.
They aren't concave in the pic. They are convex with a raised edge.
brochiller
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Yeah analog face buttons are really a waste of time.
How? Very VERY few games actually use the depth of the trigger as an actual analog. Most games use it as a standard button 1:1
This is why I do not understand the fascination with triggers. They aren't used properly outside of racing games and i'd rather use the right analog (GT) for accel/brake variation than a trigger.
Seriously. I'm curious which games out of the thousands that have been made for triggers actually use them for their resistance outside of racing games... anyone want to throw me a list?
I'm not talking about a one-off minigame in a game, either, i'm talking as a main mechanic.
They aren't utilized properly. Why keep making them for the handful of games out of thousands that use them just to fuck my reaction time with travel distance for 99% of games?
How would this work. You hold the controller in one hand, and move your other hand like you were a magician over a top hat? I'm pretty hype for the leap, but I don't see it working inside a controller.
Alx
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I'm having a hard time finding scenarios where it would be more useful than a regular touch interface... gestures are interesting for doing things without a controller, or away from it. But if you're fiddling close to said controller, you can just as well touch it.
Besides having the equivalent of a Leap Motion sensor in a gamepad would limit its usability, since you'll need one hand to hold the controller and couldn't do two-hands commands.
Graphics Horse
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Yes you'd either do that for mid air gestures, manipulating an object or map in 3D with your hand, or you could place the controller on the floor or table in front of you for two handed use.
Does this Boomerang PS4 Controller Concept Look Great?
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By: Justin Quinn – a freelance 3D artist and designer.
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I didn't see that. Holy crap at the "discussion" of err yes and errr no.
Nevermind me then, carry on
Graphics Horse
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Does this Boomerang PS4 Controller Concept Look Great?
More at the link.
By: Justin Quinn – a freelance 3D artist and designer.
The console doesn't look to bad but that controller...The Dpad...Everything.
Does this Boomerang PS4 Controller Concept Look Great?
More at the link.
By: Justin Quinn a freelance 3D artist and designer.
Arms are too long, the left stick is too big, and I don't like the pad not being a square.
Does this Boomerang PS4 Controller Concept Look Great?
More at the link.
By: Justin Quinn – a freelance 3D artist and designer.
Console looks nice but that controller looks very uncomfortable. The angle your hands would be at holding those grips would kill your wrists. What's with the giant left stick and tiny d-pad?
Does this Boomerang PS4 Controller Concept Look Great?
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By: Justin Quinn a freelance 3D artist and designer.
Ugh.... asymmetrical sticks...
Does this Boomerang PS4 Controller Concept Look Great?
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By: Justin Quinn a freelance 3D artist and designer.
Terrible all around.