So about that Vita?

Vita already made itself worth it to me thanks to UMVC3, so i'm at peace if the console is truely finished. If vita remote play works as well as wii U's tablet supposedly works, that would be great.
 
Yeah, people are acting like they couldn't have some separate Vita showing after the PS4 reveal.

Oh wait, any Vita news will take away from the PS4 hype. Of fucking course we should wait until E3 for more news on it.

Or TGS, got to wait for TGS.
 
But what if I like my Vita and want to play Destiny in bed or around the house?

It's like people aren't allowed to enjoy a struggling system.

I think it is more about a lot of people being straight up disappointed with how Sony has handled the Vita. I own one, I am not feeling very good about the console's future. I want Sony to put some support behind it and not give up on it and all of the people that dropped $250 plus however much for an overpriced memory card.
 
I think it is more about a lot of people being straight up disappointed with how Sony has handled the Vita. I own one, I am not feeling very good about the console's future. I want Sony to put some support behind it and not give up on it and all of the people that dropped $250 plus however much for an overpriced memory card.
I'm not going to pretend like they've handled it very well, and unless they pick up their shit then it could be in some serious trouble by the end of the year. Though I doubt this, it's certainly possible. At this point, I got my Vita for a great deal, have a ton of great games, am looking forward to Soul Sacrifice/Killzone Vita/Tearaway, and absolutely cannot wait to take full PS4 games with me around the house.

I'm happy with my purchase. I like to think that Sony will stick to their "aggressive" nature of the Vita, but again, it could go sideways. Either way, I'll be using mine for years to come.
 
there's two different conversations going on here that have nothing to do with eachother.

it's great that some of you are really enjoying your time with Vita, but the more interesting conversation some of us are having is Sony neglecting the platform, and if it's too late to keep Vita alive. The only way I can see Sony rejuvenate Vita is by rereleasing it at a cheaper price along with a handful of exciting games. this could boost sales and might convince some retailers to give Vita another chance. of course, the problem would remain that even if a re-release boosted sales, another wave of games would be too distant.
 
Far too early to make such comments, yesterday was a ps4 event. They called it playstation event not because they were going to talk about the vita but because they couldn't call it ps4 event given that was exactly what they wanted to reveal and 'surprise'. If there's nothing at E3. Different story. But to make conclusions based solely on yesterday's showing is misguided.

Its still too early? Vita is already one year old. games announced at E3 (if there is any) will arrive in late 2013 if we are lucky, and the vita will be 2 by then.
 
Sony, why you no price cut for the west... :(

I think this is something for E3, and I agree with the general sentiment that we have to wait for E3 to really evaluate if Sony have dumped the vita as nothing more than a PS4 peripheral in the long run. The DS didn't exactly have a stunning lineup in that first year and more than made up for it during its lifecycle, same as the PSP.
 

?? where did you get that idea..?

It should work over a network, they just used the kids thing as an example.

From the Playstation conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY&list=PLol_ykYs3OQ65y4avMdbMk_k96z3lMt6W&index=1

@ 37:20

"So to make remote play between the PS4 and PS Vita feel good, we've dramatically reduced transmission times so the gameplay is snappy and immediate. We've accomplished this by integrating some of the GaiKai technology into the PS4 system architecture that essentially turns it into a game server and the PS Vita becomes a client with remarkably fast connection speeds."

Also of note @ 37:01

"Our long term goal is to make every Playstation 4 title playable on PS Vita."

Don't like the sounds of "long term goal". Doesn't exactly sound like something that's mandatory for developers to include from day 1.
 
Could also be at Gamescom. There was a bunch of Vita stuff at Gamescom last year.

Vita's Gamescom showing, while well-presented, was really quite overrated. How many new titles were announced? A grand total of one (Tearaway), and SCEE had the gall to cap off the whole thing with a Declassified trailer.
 
I think this is something for E3, and I agree with the general sentiment that we have to wait for E3 to really evaluate if Sony have dumped the vita as nothing more than a PS4 peripheral in the long run. The DS didn't exactly have a stunning lineup in that first year and more than made up for it during its lifecycle, same as the PSP.

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Indeed you were. Find me a single official source that refers to the 18th event as 'Vita Heaven'. It was an announcement of a price-cut, some new bundles and then they showed the games that are due to be released imminently in the region they're selling the new bundles in. It wasn't Vita Heaven.


Probably, only time will tell. I suspect that the general perception of the Vita will still be overwhelmingly negative after E3, regardless of what they show.

It doesn't have to be a new vita heaven for sony to announce new games, and there is no rule saying that you can't have new game announcement alongside the price cut announcement. not to mention that you can also call that event the vita heaven and then announce the price cut.
 
Exclusive as in it has a ton of exclusive content. Why are you responding to me like I wasn't aware the D3 wasn't on PS3, I just said it had all the content + DLC for free?

You shouldn't own a platform for the sake of a game being exclusive, exclusives not made by Nintendo are rarely system sellers. You buy a game because it's fun and you feel that platfom is best suited to your gaming needs.

The point is most people do buy a machine for exclusive content. If you can already play the games on another platform you own, what's the point? The reason I point out that Disgaea 3 is on the PS3 is because given the choice of "free" DLC or being able to play an entirely new title in the series, any Disgaea fan is going to choose the latter. A hardcore Disgaea fan may buy the game a second time on the Vita, and the same goes for Persona. But the hardcore fan is the minority, not the majority.

You seem to be arguing from the point of view of someone who already owns a Vita. And sure, if you already own a Vita you might choose to buy the Vita version of a game over a PS3/360 version to play on the go. But most people who see the Vita as dead do not own a Vita, and lists full of ports -- exclusive content or otherwise -- are unlikely to make them invest in it. There's a full year of sales backing me up on that point.
 
I think it is more about a lot of people being straight up disappointed with how Sony has handled the Vita. I own one, I am not feeling very good about the console's future. I want Sony to put some support behind it and not give up on it and all of the people that dropped $250 plus however much for an overpriced memory card.

It's the hook to get you to buy PS4 down the road.

"Hey you've got a VITA now so you don't have to buy more VITA games if you buy a PS4!"
 
From the Playstation conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNGZMx2vhY&list=PLol_ykYs3OQ65y4avMdbMk_k96z3lMt6W&index=1

@ 37:20

"So to make remote play between the PS4 and PS Vita feel good, we've dramatically reduced transmission times so the gameplay is snappy and immediate. We've accomplished this by integrating some of the GaiKai technology into the PS4 system architecture that essentially turns it into a game server and the PS Vita becomes a client with remarkably fast connection speeds."

Also of note @ 37:01

"Our long term goal is to make every Playstation 4 title playable on PS Vita."

Don't like the sounds of "long term goal". Doesn't exactly sound like something that's mandatory for developers to include from day 1.
Oh, but it will be.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514910
 

I hope so. Also hope they're able to get remote streaming (outside of the home network) working properly. I have no interest in remote playing to Vita while at home but remotely, I'd break down and get one for sure.

As far as off-screen play/remote play being a sales driver for Vita, I'm still not convinced. Isn't streaming supposed to be available to tablets and smartphones as well in some form? Yea, yea, lack of buttons and all that but not everyone will plunk down $250 just for that. I certainly would but I can't see the market at large doing so.
 
Its like people are not allowed to discuss poor sales of a system without defense forces being deployed.

Discussing poor sales is fine & dandy but it's posts like this:

Plus a memory card, the sftare,and waste of investment in tme and patience with that thing. Its not all about the money, its the trust you put into the company that sold you on the device.

That bring out the 'defence force'. It's a little grating to be told that you haven't enjoyed something, that you've 'wasted your time' when you feel totally different.
 
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