WickedLaharl
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so did sam just wanna die? was that really his motivation?
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Armstrong was just such a shit boss. Im not sure what platinum was going for with him but he's a complete failure of a character on every level. It was literally painful watching the screen when he was on it. Visually he's just a bloated uninteresting mess while everything else is pretty well done. In a game filled with bad dialogue his was without a doubt the worst..even worse than george's. And wtf was up with those mysterious 'fire' powers he suddenly gets at the end? I mean i always enjoyed some of the over the top liberties taken in the MGS universe but that whole scenario was dbz levels of comical. Such a disappointing way to top off a pretty good game.
EatChildren
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Metal Gear RAY - Rules of Nature
LQ-84i - I'm My Own Master Now
Mistral - A Stranger I Remain
Monsoon - The Stains of Time
Sundowner - Red Sun
Samuel - The Only Thing I Know For Real
Metal Gear Excelsus - Collective Consciousness
Senator Armstrong - It Has To Be This Way
Loved this whole scene. From Sunny to the silliness, it all felt very Metal Gear to me.
Ignition!
LQ-84i - I'm My Own Master Now
Mistral - A Stranger I Remain
Monsoon - The Stains of Time
Sundowner - Red Sun
Samuel - The Only Thing I Know For Real
Metal Gear Excelsus - Collective Consciousness
Senator Armstrong - It Has To Be This Way
Loved this whole scene. From Sunny to the silliness, it all felt very Metal Gear to me.
Ignition!
That Dude John
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Nah, man I lost it when he said Sunny was hot and Wolf had to rescind its alert.
The fact that he had two different sets of English subtitles was funny and weird at the same time, like I can't tell if it's a joke or not because when he's speaking I can understand his intentions and what he means entirely.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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The only thing that saved Armstrong as a character was the fact that he was a UT alumni. So random, so awesome..
WickedLaharl
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It seems like I'm going to have to shell out some case for the sam DLC to understand wtf his deal was
Anyways how many codec calls are in this game? I listened to a shitload of them and didn't get the trophy.
lol i loved that line
Anyways how many codec calls are in this game? I listened to a shitload of them and didn't get the trophy.
lol i loved that line
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
The lack of a handshake from blade wolf reminds me of this from MGS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFSiIgd05M8
Need better battery tech first.
nailbombxx
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I loved the Armstrong fight because its like he became a Hokuto no Ken character through the power of money and science.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Truthfully though he didnt really fit in with the rest of the characters at all. As mentioned before dude more belonged in Asuras Wrath than this game.
While his speech and personality was amusing, the way they designed his character wasnt.
In terms of bosses my favorites were Mistral, Monsoon, and Sam in no particular order. Sundowner was just boring and lame to me, and Armstrong was actually a good fight, but I had a terrible experience fighting him due to not understanding how to deal with the boss. (what to do when he is healing, having trouble cutting the debris)
Metal Gear Excellus (is that it's name?) was disappointing for me, I was expecting much more. Aside from that though the bosses were great.
In terms of story I was actually surprised how violent the game was compared to other Metal Gear's, not just in terms of the very excessive swearing in the game, but also some moments actually creeped me out. (such as the child brains with eyes all looking and staring at Raiden when he first sees them)
Metal Gear Excellus (is that it's name?) was disappointing for me, I was expecting much more. Aside from that though the bosses were great.
In terms of story I was actually surprised how violent the game was compared to other Metal Gear's, not just in terms of the very excessive swearing in the game, but also some moments actually creeped me out. (such as the child brains with eyes all looking and staring at Raiden when he first sees them)
The fact that he was a Longhorn instantly made me hate him as a Buckeye fan.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yeah sundowner was such a waste of what could have been a pretty epic fight. Since even on hard he really didnt do all that much.
They just should have made the fight revolving around his insane scissor blades instead of those shields. It was an amusing concept, but just made him way too easy to kill.
They just should have made the fight revolving around his insane scissor blades instead of those shields. It was an amusing concept, but just made him way too easy to kill.
I was half expecting Raiden to say "you're already dead" before pulling out his heart.
AcceptableGhost
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That would have been fucking amazing.
Thanks for these links. I love the boss themes. So fucking good. Whenever the lyrics kicked in they pumped me up more than pretty much any game music I've ever heard.
Also, count me in the group that considers Armstrong to be weirdly entertaining.
nailbombxx
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I like the variety he gives to the game with his fighting style. Every other character used high-tech weapons while he just uses his nearly indestructible nanomachine body to pound Raiden to death.
Its debatable that if he fits in with the game itself, but I find him enjoyable.
I don't understand how he controls fire though.
I would have to had write PlatinumGames a love letter.
Fimbulvetr
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Well, they could always pull a Gray Fox with him.
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It's a toss-up between Monsoon and Mistral for me for best boss fight. It's a shame that so many seemed to dislike the Ray intro boss. Sure it's almost a gimme fight but experiencing that sequence for the first time has become one of my all-time favorite moments in gaming.
Chapter 4 was the best chapter. Great encounter design and that was when the deeper mechanics clicked for me.
nailbombxx
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This.
I felt like it was an homage to the Tenchu games.
Also that Samurai cyborg sitting at the top of the staircase in seiza position waiting to fight you. So good.
If there's one moment where I laughed out loud, it was Raiden and Wolf's reaction before the launch. Putting on the visor was so simple, yet hilarious in that situation.
RyanardoDaVinci
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Yeah, the short of it being that cyborgs using the white blood had to go through routine dialysis, the new red blood doesn't need to be dialyzed.
Guide says there's 540 unique conversations and you need to listen to at least 400 of them for the trophy.
Something seems off about that though; I called everyone after every cutscene/checkpoint/new area and during every encounter but the trophy didn't ping until the fistfight phase of Armstrong's fight.
Young Nobleman Of Sadness
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I'm still trying to cope with the Senator Armstrong boss battle in this game.
It just doesn't fit fit the general tone of the game. The cinematics with armstrong reach God Hand levels of humor, and even if that's make me happy, I think it just doen't fit the general tone of the game...
It just doesn't fit fit the general tone of the game. The cinematics with armstrong reach God Hand levels of humor, and even if that's make me happy, I think it just doen't fit the general tone of the game...
Absolutely hated the kid. The accent was just so ridiculous.
Young Nobleman Of Sadness
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Well, considering how you can slice Mistral, Monsoon and Sundowner in a trillion pieces, and they don't piss you of as half as the senator, I was a little disappointed I couldn't cut him just as well. It would have been a glorious end to this awesome, difficult and bizarre battle.
I just thought I was playing Hokuto Musou at the final boss as well...
Sam was the best for me. No bullshit, only you and your sword, reminds me of a better solidus fight. Too bad that is too easy and short.
I was expecting to keep fighting him like Jeanne but seeing the game was rushed because of that kojima schedule it makes sense. At least we gonna get dat DLC
I was expecting to keep fighting him like Jeanne but seeing the game was rushed because of that kojima schedule it makes sense. At least we gonna get dat DLC
I liked Amrstrong he basicly was a Arnold Schwarznegger Parodie a Musle packet Senator,
that needs Steroids/ Nanomachines to really be the strongest and the whole fight has a Terminator style to it and he has my favorite Battle Theme ~Beneath the blood stained saaaaaaaaaaaand ~
that needs Steroids/ Nanomachines to really be the strongest and the whole fight has a Terminator style to it and he has my favorite Battle Theme ~Beneath the blood stained saaaaaaaaaaaand ~
WrenchNinja
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All boss fights from now on must have thematically relevant lyrics when it gets the most intense.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I'm still trying to cope with the Senator Armstrong boss battle in this game.
It just doesn't fit fit the general tone of the game. The cinematics with armstrong reach God Hand levels of humor, and even if that's make me happy, I think it just doen't fit the general tone of the game...
Exactly. Felt the same way about him. A more epic battle with Sam would have been far more appreciated.
They just should have offed armstrong once his "sweet ride" got chopped to pieces. Then have had Samuel come back for a final fight.
Something along the lines of this from 13 Assassisn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfBmKZVPPHc
Imagine fighting Samuel again in a setting like that. Would have been a 1000 times better than what we got with Armstrong.
Some kinda creepy super sam wolf hybrid would have been awesome as a last fight. Wolf deduces that raiden sucks and merges in some mgs way with sam and they become a dog samurai centaur. I was literally making that up as i was typing and its still better than armstrong. Oh well. Maybe next time
One thing I did appreciate after the Sam fight was realizing that the beatdown Sam gave you at the beginning of the game wasn't due to any cyborg components but rather him being a flatout better fighter than Raiden and that there is the implication that Raiden only won because of his new body.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I'd say the only thing that comes close to it is George's "go ninja go!" and just Armstrong in general.
I remember showing some of my friend's MGS3:S secret theater. Had them in stitches by the time we were done.
Same here, I mean that's pretty much all they could do to prepare for the immediate take off.
That part in the Japanese garden really had me pining for a new Tenchu game. Maybe we'll get something like it next-gen?
First laugh out loud moment of the game for me
SpeedySwaf
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This is something I really liked as well, how the music would change slightly depending on the phase of the fight. Music works best when it's inline with the action on screen, so having it get more intense near the end of the fight is one way of going about it.
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Vilix
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Even in videogames tea sipping longhorns take it up the ass.
Gig'em!
This will probably only happen with Rising 2, more games should follow suit but I don't think they will.
MAX PAYMENT
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Just beat monsoon. Wow. The game is a ton of fun. But it had a lot of flaws. Camera is awkward as hell. I wish clicking the left stick would center it, my right thumb is too busy mashing buttons to click the right stick.
Also I think Raiden is a really awful character with a bad voice actor. A lot f the voice acting is particularly weak (so far). And I don't care about any of the characters. I have been able to get into most of the lead cast of any previous MGS game, but not this one.
Also I think Raiden is a really awful character with a bad voice actor. A lot f the voice acting is particularly weak (so far). And I don't care about any of the characters. I have been able to get into most of the lead cast of any previous MGS game, but not this one.
Raiden slicing the other drone in half over Denver while flying into it head-on reminded me of Neo Contra's intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grBA4clVjDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grBA4clVjDw
Sam fight reminded me of the final boss in No More Heroes 1.
Armstrong fight reminded me of the final boss in No More Heroes 2. (phase 2 of Jasper Batt Jr.), especially with how insanely difficult he is and the similarities between the two (both become muscular, both have unblockables, both have grabs that are hard to avoid, both you need to either dodge or parry in order to do damage, etc.)
Here's a video to help show what I'm comparing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D65-LuSCUA
Am I crazy? Both also have over the top cutscenes and dialogue. It's amazing.
Armstrong fight reminded me of the final boss in No More Heroes 2. (phase 2 of Jasper Batt Jr.), especially with how insanely difficult he is and the similarities between the two (both become muscular, both have unblockables, both have grabs that are hard to avoid, both you need to either dodge or parry in order to do damage, etc.)
Here's a video to help show what I'm comparing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D65-LuSCUA
Am I crazy? Both also have over the top cutscenes and dialogue. It's amazing.