White blood felt out of place to me. I mean, stylistically it looks... cool I guess, but the way it was explained and thrown into MGS4 felt awkward. It doesn't help that mysteriously the white blood is in the Japanese version of this game (I think it is anyway?) Not sure why they're different, really. I would have been okay with an option to switch between red and white blood but I suppose it wasn't possible because of the way the cutscenes were done.
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
Boss fights
Sam (so good)
Sundowner
Mistral
Armstrong
Monsoon
Sam (so good)
Sundowner
Mistral
Armstrong
Monsoon
Oh no worries. You've gotta get pretty far to get it. I like it.
Armstrong >>>>> Monsoon > Sam >>> Mistral >> Sundowner
I felt like I cheesed Sundowner and didn't even figure out what the fight was supposed to be like but still beat him easier than if I had taken the right path by using the polearm to just bring him down from behind without having to worry about his shield or other attacks.
I felt like I cheesed Sundowner and didn't even figure out what the fight was supposed to be like but still beat him easier than if I had taken the right path by using the polearm to just bring him down from behind without having to worry about his shield or other attacks.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sundowner is clearly the worst. You just get behind him and mash light, that's all there is to him.
Chip N Chance
Member
I posted this in the OT, but what does the post credits sequence imply? Whats with the brief case he pulls out of thin air? I usually enjoy the post credits of Metal Gear games but this one was meh.
SkylineRKR
Member
The only thing that wasn't great about Armstrong was that you didn't have beef with him. Sundowner and Samuel did hurt Raiden directly in some ways. You'd advance and look forward to the moment where you could slice them open.
But the Armstrong fight was good, and his speech (fuck the media, fuck this and that) was pretty good.
Nanomachines, son! It felt like a jab towards MGS4 to me because that game retconned everything to nano's.
And he said something like good ol' days after 9/11. And there was that embrace all of a sudden, which might refer to Snake/BB in 4? Armstrong was a cool dude.
But the Armstrong fight was good, and his speech (fuck the media, fuck this and that) was pretty good.
Nanomachines, son! It felt like a jab towards MGS4 to me because that game retconned everything to nano's.
And he said something like good ol' days after 9/11. And there was that embrace all of a sudden, which might refer to Snake/BB in 4? Armstrong was a cool dude.
WrenchNinja
Member
stealth camo sword holding briefcase?
Raiden's going to fight other corrupt PMCs, probably ones that are using kids.
I like to consider the bosses not only in terms of their gameplay, but their style, as well. Armstrong probably has the most spectacular moments, like when he summons a wall of flame and you're fighting right next to it, practically silhouetted, or the light streaking down from the skies when he lifts the boulder, or how he jumps through the fire and closes the distance between you and him in one lunging strike, all set to lyrics like "violence breeds violence!" It's amazing.
Sam, of course, has the great intro where you and him can simply circle each other slowly as tumbleweed blows about the desert at sunset. Periodically he'll resume that slow walk, giving you a moment to breathe and cautiously approach (for drama's sake!). Accidentally halving boulders -- or Sam bursting through them if one's between you -- adds another element of raw unbridled POWER. So cool.
Mistral's battle is perhaps the one most enhanced by music, the jazzy pop track driving everything, and the player's back-and-forth between her and her dwarf gekkos creates this cool rhythm. The three distinct areas you progress through and the increasing fiery destruction heightens the experience further.
Monsoon probably has the mot impressive variety of tricks, and is perhaps the most parry-heavy, and thus most aggressive fight. THWACK THWACK THWACK one way, THWACK THWACK THWACK another way. Delightfully hard-hitting. The rain-slick arena is nice, as well.
Sundowner himself is quite fearsome-looking, and the lighting and rain in his battle impress. You can whittle away at him by circling backside and spamming light attacks, but I quite like breaking his shield with Blade Mode and eventually prompting his pillar attack and his "Red Sun" song. Probably the boss with the best finale, hurtling up the burning building and launching the drone at him.
Damn, they're all so awesome. I even loved Ray and MG Excelsius. This game has such consistent boss design. Bow, Platinum, bow!
Sam, of course, has the great intro where you and him can simply circle each other slowly as tumbleweed blows about the desert at sunset. Periodically he'll resume that slow walk, giving you a moment to breathe and cautiously approach (for drama's sake!). Accidentally halving boulders -- or Sam bursting through them if one's between you -- adds another element of raw unbridled POWER. So cool.
Mistral's battle is perhaps the one most enhanced by music, the jazzy pop track driving everything, and the player's back-and-forth between her and her dwarf gekkos creates this cool rhythm. The three distinct areas you progress through and the increasing fiery destruction heightens the experience further.
Monsoon probably has the mot impressive variety of tricks, and is perhaps the most parry-heavy, and thus most aggressive fight. THWACK THWACK THWACK one way, THWACK THWACK THWACK another way. Delightfully hard-hitting. The rain-slick arena is nice, as well.
Sundowner himself is quite fearsome-looking, and the lighting and rain in his battle impress. You can whittle away at him by circling backside and spamming light attacks, but I quite like breaking his shield with Blade Mode and eventually prompting his pillar attack and his "Red Sun" song. Probably the boss with the best finale, hurtling up the burning building and launching the drone at him.
Damn, they're all so awesome. I even loved Ray and MG Excelsius. This game has such consistent boss design. Bow, Platinum, bow!
DrAndonuts
Member
I really enjoyed all of the boss fights, except maybe Sundowner. Seemed a bit too easy, but hopefully it's more fun on harder difficulties.
Ranking:
Mistral
Armstrong
Monsoon
Metal Gear Ray
Sam
Sundowner
Ranking:
Mistral
Armstrong
Monsoon
Metal Gear Ray
Sam
Sundowner
Armstrong was funding experiments on children and trying to start World War 3 with terrorist attacks overseas endandering American lives.
He was kind of a dick.
Great villain!
Net_Wrecker
Member
And now I want to play again even though I just turned it off after a 5 hour session. Thanks.
I actually ended up doing this for about 20 seconds because it looked so cool.
Made the fight that much more amazing.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
My list is probably;
Mistral
Monsoon
Sam
Armstrong
Sundowner
Sundowner's at the bottom because I kept messing up on his shields and he never used the pillar attack on me.
Mistral's in first because it was really the first boss fight against a human opponent and it was amazing. The way the fight and music progresses is great with a pretty cool finale.
Monsoon's next because that fight was pretty parry heavy, I felt like a complete badass parrying most of his attacks, I didn't realize you could parry the wheels, I figured it might work but I didn't want to risk blade mode'ing in front of one and taking damage.
Sam because it's a traditional one on one duel. It kind of reminded me of the duels you see in Wild West movies, except with swords.
Armstrong's 2nd last because he was completely unexpected, it's so absurd I was grinning the entire time. I understand the complaints people have about this one but it was still a pretty awesome fight. The only time you get to use your fists as well.
Mistral
Monsoon
Sam
Armstrong
Sundowner
Sundowner's at the bottom because I kept messing up on his shields and he never used the pillar attack on me.
Mistral's in first because it was really the first boss fight against a human opponent and it was amazing. The way the fight and music progresses is great with a pretty cool finale.
Monsoon's next because that fight was pretty parry heavy, I felt like a complete badass parrying most of his attacks, I didn't realize you could parry the wheels, I figured it might work but I didn't want to risk blade mode'ing in front of one and taking damage.
Sam because it's a traditional one on one duel. It kind of reminded me of the duels you see in Wild West movies, except with swords.
Armstrong's 2nd last because he was completely unexpected, it's so absurd I was grinning the entire time. I understand the complaints people have about this one but it was still a pretty awesome fight. The only time you get to use your fists as well.
Armstrong was definitely a highlight, simply because the battle is challenging and tense and backed up by some outrageously funny dialogue and music.
As for the rest, the only one I disliked was Monsoon. If you miss one parry, you end up getting caught in a stun-lock and its just no fun wiggling the stick interminably while getting beaten down.
As for the rest, the only one I disliked was Monsoon. If you miss one parry, you end up getting caught in a stun-lock and its just no fun wiggling the stick interminably while getting beaten down.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Man, the Metal Gear Excelsus battle was so much wasted potential. I was expecting a Shadow of the Colossus-style battle where he would chase you through the desert and you'd have to destroy his limbs strategically while avoiding lasers, blade swipes and stomps. What I got instead was more akin to Duck Hunt: he just stood there while you waited for the window to do some piddly damage while he shouts admittedly awesome one-liners at you ("Ashes to ashes, motherf*cker!" may be my favourite line in the game). Also, the vocal track of Collective Consciousness was criminally underused; it's got a great score, but the lyrics are orgasmically awesome.
And yet it was still better than most other video game bosses.
And yet it was still better than most other video game bosses.
LOL, oh man, if only he had Captain Falcon-style flame eagles whenever he punched!
It's "Excelsius." *adjusts imaginary glasses*
I guess when you put it that way, Excelsius seems underwhelming, but seeing that massive monstrosity at 60fps is still a treat. Coolest-looking design for an MG, imo.
I wish there was a way to skip straight to Armstrong, though. Sometimes, I just want to fight a senator.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Nope.
A codec convo reveals it shares the name with Apatosaurus excelsus. Why? I have no clue. It looks nothing like an Apatosaurus.
Excelsus in latin also means: elevated, lofty, high, a height, distinguished, excellent, noble, an elevated station. I guess that fits.
New enemy placements and attacks are added, they didn't fuck around with the harder difficulties.
Playing on very hard and Revengeance difficulty with a new slave slot aka no upgrades elevates the difficulty to the Master Ninja/Dante Must Die level.
Nah man - Raiden and Sam, uneasy alliance chopping up the bad men. The crowd would go wild.
MGR2 should have a Gray Fox impersonator as the villain. Just because.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Personally I feel Metal Gear Excelsus was a very weak design
REX
RAY
GECKO
ZEKE
EXCELSUS
BASALISK
SHAGOHOD
MGR:2 Needs to go full Zandatsu Nanomachine Batshit Insane.
Grey Fox reincarnated
Otacon back at base
Solidus Turbo edition back from the dead
Cyborg Vamp
Sam coming back
Mk II :lol:
RAY
GECKO
ZEKE
EXCELSUS
BASALISK
SHAGOHOD
MGR:2 Needs to go full Zandatsu Nanomachine Batshit Insane.
Grey Fox reincarnated
Otacon back at base
Solidus Turbo edition back from the dead
Cyborg Vamp
Sam coming back
Freezasaurus
Member
Wait, that thing was supposed to be an actual Metal Gear?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Y'know, the more I think about it, the more I believe that Senator Armstrong is an homage to Lordgenome from Gurren Lagann:
Both are awesome burly men with positions of authority and power, both use mechs for the first part of their fight but become exponentially stronger when they discard them and the use their fists to destroy the cybernetic implements of the hero, both command squads of three quirky villains and one rival anti-villain, and both are defeated when the hero uses an ally's help to power up a technique that they had been using throughout the entire game/series and use it to destroy their heart. Both also have admirable intentions, but carry out their plans villainously.
Spooky.
Both are awesome burly men with positions of authority and power, both use mechs for the first part of their fight but become exponentially stronger when they discard them and the use their fists to destroy the cybernetic implements of the hero, both command squads of three quirky villains and one rival anti-villain, and both are defeated when the hero uses an ally's help to power up a technique that they had been using throughout the entire game/series and use it to destroy their heart. Both also have admirable intentions, but carry out their plans villainously.
Spooky.
Spring-Loaded
Member
^ I like dat
Did anyone else walk through the rain toward Sundowner before the fight and/or walk during the Sam fight, waiting for him to attack?
Did anyone else walk through the rain toward Sundowner before the fight and/or walk during the Sam fight, waiting for him to attack?
Metal Gear Rising: Sons of Vengeance
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I did it with Sam (the tumbleweed was amazing), but I'm pretty sure that Sundowner always bumrushes you with his shields immediately. I didn't get a chance to do it later either, since I'd rageslash him whenever he shouted "I'M F*CKING INVINCIBLE" loud enough to wake my roommate.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I wonder if this game brought any new people into the MGS series.
Based on the content and box art I imagine it would draw in some people who would traditionally not play a Metal Gear Solid game.
Based on the content and box art I imagine it would draw in some people who would traditionally not play a Metal Gear Solid game.
Freezasaurus
Member
I did. The setting practically begs you to.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Got distracted by the Dwarf Gecko giraffe looking thing to the right and spent about 10 mins running around trying to figure out what it was until I threw a grenade at it and seen it split into dwarf gekcos and die.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
I never really thought of it that way. And now that you say it I think it's almost inappropriate to play Raiden in a Gray Fox skin.
Fimbulvetr
Member
It was during that fight that I found out you can avoid all cyborg kills without the wooden sword. Cut off all limbs, then run as far away as you can. They'll activate their stealth camo and disappear from the battle.I loved the story in this one.
And, it shall not be forgotten that Platinum manages to actually ask all the right questions even if it is done in a humorous, satirical way.
I mean...
Yeah.... it is almost like WE are asked a question.
I have a feeling that more and more questions will be asked.
Of course, at the end of the day, it might just as well be a video game, no one harmed, obviously, but still. When Raiden was hurt and you could hear the police cyborg folks thoughts - clearly they were afraid -, it was not with good taste that I picked up my sword and destroyed them. It was clear, thre Zandatsus and that is it, but it was not fun.
And the Armstrong conversation... damn it. Enough speeches for three full games, lol.
Yeah, that was disappointing. I was expecting the plates to move around and reposition itself around his body depending on where you attacked. But it never happened.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Disappear, or dissolve into the ether from loss of life force?
Yeah, think about it. It's deep.
Nanomachines, son.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
FUCK ALL THESE LIMP-DICK LAWYERS
He seemed more Randian than Tea Party, to me.
You could kill it easier with the Sai.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Just beat this bad boy! FUCKING LOVED IT
Pro's:
+ Hilarious ("GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!!!!" "Hikari-Chan.. so kawaii!!!" "NANOMACHINES, SON!!!!)
+ Balls to the wall high octane action
+ Superbly directed cutscenes
+ Awesome combat
+ Badass music. Always perfectly placed.
+ Awesome boss fights (save for, Sundowner.. so lame)
+ Cool unlockables
+ BALLS TO THE WALL HIGH OCTANE ACTION
Cons:
- Camera (Man that shit was frustrating when enemies were hitting me off-screen. ugh)
- Wolf never fought along side me. WTF!?
- Hated those codec interruptions. I hated them in Vanquish and I hate them here. Platinum needs to stop it with this shit.
- Wish the game was at least 2 chapters longer.
So, yeah. I adore this game. If there is any justice in the world there will be a Metal Gear Rising 2: Return of the Ripper, with the slogan "Jack is back... !"
edit - shit, we're doing boss fight rankings up in this bitch? Fine then.
Monsoon
Armstrong
Mistral (mainly for her death scene. SO AWESOME)
Sam
Wolf
Sundowner
Pro's:
+ Hilarious ("GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!!!!" "Hikari-Chan.. so kawaii!!!" "NANOMACHINES, SON!!!!)
+ Balls to the wall high octane action
+ Superbly directed cutscenes
+ Awesome combat
+ Badass music. Always perfectly placed.
+ Awesome boss fights (save for, Sundowner.. so lame)
+ Cool unlockables
+ BALLS TO THE WALL HIGH OCTANE ACTION
Cons:
- Camera (Man that shit was frustrating when enemies were hitting me off-screen. ugh)
- Wolf never fought along side me. WTF!?
- Hated those codec interruptions. I hated them in Vanquish and I hate them here. Platinum needs to stop it with this shit.
- Wish the game was at least 2 chapters longer.
So, yeah. I adore this game. If there is any justice in the world there will be a Metal Gear Rising 2: Return of the Ripper, with the slogan "Jack is back... !"
edit - shit, we're doing boss fight rankings up in this bitch? Fine then.
Monsoon
Armstrong
Mistral (mainly for her death scene. SO AWESOME)
Sam
Wolf
Sundowner
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I really like Peace Walker's design, having both bipedal and quadrupedal modes was cool.
For MGR2; please don't bring anyone back from the dead. The beauty of the game's technology though, is there can be cyborgs of past characters that aren't actually the originals.
I'm tired of people coming back from the dead.
Boris says it's technically not (no nuclear capabilities) but everyone around the world refers to any of the very large walking mechs as Metal Gears; as they did with RAY, which wasn't nuclear either.
Spring-Loaded
Member
For this fight, this song fits well. You can walk parallel to him during the calmer parts then stinger toward him as the refrain kicks in