Raiden's evade comes with a free slash, too. It looks deceptive, but it's an evasive maneuver with I-frames. Press Offensive Defense with a direction and you get strafe slashes and forward slashes.
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Raiden's evade comes with a free slash, too. It looks deceptive, but it's an evasive maneuver with I-frames. Press Offensive Defense with a direction and you get strafe slashes and forward slashes.
thesolidshark
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Can you elaborate on that? Offensive in it's execution, or just the fact that they went in that direction?
TheVampire
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So I havnt played this yet but can anyone tell me if there were any mentions or appearances of Snake or Otacon?
The Xtortionist
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Yes
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Excesus would be cooler if it had a proper introduction and the fight was more climatic. The RAY battle, in all its simplicity, was super awesome as you fought RAY the Metal Gear. It was an entire enemy. Excesus moved too slowly and was too compartmentalised to convey the sense of fighting a big robot. I felt more like I was fighting it's arms and legs, because I was.
Fimbulvetr
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You do realize he was Jack the Ripper at that point, right?
I thought it was great. Saving the children was good motivation for Raiden, since he experienced the horrors of VR training as a child himself. Also, I can't speak for everyone, but for me, the children being in imminent danger resonated more than... whatever the threat was in MGS4.
It wasn't VR for him.
not only the childrens, we're talking about ww3 here.
Erm, whatever the Sears program was.
Children first, then WW3 once the game goes to Pakistan.
it would've been cool if its head became its own Metal Gear bipedal mech. but nope.
Yeah Excelsus was a big disappointment. If anything it was really only there for the sake of having a Metal Gear as an endgame boss. I'm glad it wasn't the final fight though; it sets up the fight with Armstrong perfectly anyway.
I guess I could see him being careless because of how badly he wanted to murder the guy who wanted to create more child soldiers. But not if that meant killing a kid himself. On top of that, why not just cut him to begin with? Or why warn/ask George at all?
That was me who said it was Africa, and I was already corrected.
After they saw Raiden attacking the base, it is likely that they all turned back. They would probably want to ensure the safety of the president. But let's say that they did have some planes or helicopters or something stay around; when would they see Armstrong? After Raiden defeats the Metal Gear? You think as soon as they saw a Metal Gear, especially of that size, they would just back the hell away. Plus if anyone was around, I am pretty sure that Armstrong could/would just kill them on sight.
Also for people wondering why Excelsus was there to begin with, I believe it was said in the Codec calls that Armstrong probably altered his plans once Sam died.
They say that Excelsus is there because they want to make it look like someone bigger than Desperado and some Pakistani insurgents are behind the attack. It is such an expensive piece of equipment that only a major player could afford it. This should make a large war more likely.
I also liked the fact that it is called a Metal Gear purely for promotional purposes on the part of the company that built it.
I also liked the fact that it is called a Metal Gear purely for promotional purposes on the part of the company that built it.
Wow at dat scale. I wish there was a Ray for comparison though.
RyanardoDaVinci
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RAY would be taller, but I'm pretty sure Excelsus is the largest of all the Metal Gears.
ShockingAlberto
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I figured it out and I feel stupid
Somehow it got unequipped from the customization screen?
It's not about him being careless, it's about him being the Ripper. The ripper honestly doesn't care about who he kills or why, he just enjoys doing the act. To be clear, I don't think he has a split personality or anything, but I do identify it as the source of his murderous impulses. At the time, Raiden was in a room where he was watching other kids die because of that scientist. What was happening here is that raiden was so pissed that he wanted to kill him, so bad that he was willing to murder a child for the opportunity. Personally, I find this true to life. That's how anger works, it isn't rational and it doesn't recognize it's own hypocrisy. The scientist incurred his wrath and that was all Raiden was thinking about. And had George not encouraged him, raiden might have restrained himself, but by George giving him an out by permitting his death (and thus, from a point of view, freeing him of blame), he lost all reason to not kill the guy. So he did.
Keep in mind that he decided that he was going to cut him down before George knocked the gun away. Had that not happened, Raiden wouldn't have killed him before he shot his head, so he was already ready to have george die to sate his wrath.
That's why he was willing to kill george, not because he was careless. Just angry and falling back on his old child soldier impulses.
Once you purchase a skill, it stays with you unless you aren't using the appropriate subweapon. You don't have to worry about equipping or unequipping skills, just equipment.
But even in his "Jack the Ripper" persona he never seems to act careless, which is what that was. There was a clear opening for him to cut off the dudes hand, which would have given him ample opportunity to murder the dude while saving George.
Also it was clear to me that he was trying to go for a situation where he saved everyone. It did not seem like he was close to his Jack the Ripper persona at that point. If not, he would have either smashed the glass first letting George die but saving a room full of kids, or just immediately killing the scientist and then saving the kids (besides George). If he was really not caring for George when he went in for the cut, then it is weird that he immediately preserved his body. Compare that to the other killings of the bosses, which with the exception of Sam, was overkill.
I mean, I am not doubting that the reasoning is that he was getting into his Jack the Ripper persona, I just think that the actions didn't really imply it very clearly or well. Has the Platinum Games dude posted in this thread? Cause if he is the guy that I think he is, he helped write the story. I think.
No way, Ray can fit inside a tanker ship and even then it can be stored in a couple huge rooms/areas. Excelsus is close to the size of a tanker.
One codec (might have been with Doktor, but I don't remember for certain) mentioned something about its ongoing development being public knowledge, IIRC.
I do think they handled the george cutting scene more oddly than they should have. When Raiden first said "Are you ready?" I fully expected him to cut the glass to let the kids out and have George get shot, not rush at the scientist and slice them both.
It's not that raiden didn't care about saving george at all (he clearly did), it's that he cared much more about killing the scientist. George was an afterthought at that point. But once the kill WAS done, his killing impulse was sated and he was back to focusing on saving the kids. It seems to me that you keep thinking that either saving the kids was top priority or not a priority at all. Saving the kids was A priority (it's why he's so angry in the first place after all, if he truly didn't care, he wouldn't be so mad). However, because of angry he was, killing the scientist was something he really really wanted to do very badly and took the first excuse to do so, even though raiden (without his ripper side demanding blood) probably would have kept his cool and made sure to save George first. But instead, in the heat of the moment, he just wanted to kill the scientist and worry about everything else later. Which, luckily for him, more or less worked out. Kids were saved and george likes his cyborg body better than he did his real one.
That said, I do agree that it could have been better conveyed. Raiden seemed very calm (but cold) when he went after the scientist, which implies to me that he's not blinded by rage, though he feels it. But from the actions, thats the only way I see it happening that makes sense. Anger and the Ripper's impulses made him forget that he's suppose to be saving the kids in the first place and it's only by blind luck that things worked out.
The Sam DLC looks to take place before he was recruited into Desperado, afterall the only part of his outfit that is actually Desperado themed is the bicep shoulder/arm, which was presumably cut off at some point. The shots we've seen of the Sam DLC show him with his full green armor.
So it probably takes place 2 years before Revengance and deals with how he was brought on board (probably after getting his ass kicked by Desperado).
Yes, MG:E is a standard issue model, sort of. It's not a unique build, but it's just prohibitive expensive to build. I think Kevin is the one with the info on it during that fight.
The basic idea of it is that with cyborg soldiers becoming a little too common, your standard UG or even Metal Gears are getting outmatched. As demonstrated in the Raiden vs. Ray fight in the beginning. So, the solution is overkill, build a massive Metal Gear and just roll, or in this case walk, all over the opposition as barely anything exists that would be a match for it in a fight.
The purpose of MG:E is a bit novel, though. It's supposed to be an anti-insurgent weapon. It's huge, can be seen from far away, nearly impervious to anything less powerful that a Metal Gear (or Raiden, of course), and it can walk over nearly any terrain and crush buildings just by stepping on them. It's also menacingly slow and meant to work in teams of several Execli. Meaning that when 2-3 giant robot spiders come crawling, civilians and other non-combatants have time to flee while the enemy combatants try to slow it down. Making it an excellent way to separate civilians and targets. At least in theory.
I don't think so, as you obtain it as stand alone weapon after the fight. I think stacking fuel cells would be better.
Fimbulvetr
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The same reasons he goes around telling everyone that his sword is a tool of justice. A combination of trying to keep his impulses in check and wanting an excuse to get away with murder.
Ignis Fatuus
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It would only be useful if you actually wanted to nuke someone, and since PMCs form the bulk of Kojima's war economy I don't think there would be much of a market for that. Too much heat for a PMC.
Isn't part of the reason that was never followed up on had something to do with the Patriot system being in control of all nukes sometime after the REX incident?
Lumpy Onion
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I found that it was a pretty fun big enemy to have thrown in as a break from human sized Desperado bosses. The game needed some kind of big enemy to fight before the final one. It made Armstrong seem more powerful in the end when you find out he is much more fearsome outside of his enormous machine.
Not the most memorable Meat Gear, but it gave me a really big Peacewalker vibe in it's design.
Yeah, that actually sold Armstrong for me. The fact that you completely wreck his big robot toy and then he walks out of the cockpit and gives zero fucks about it means he's serious business.
Callibretto
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yeah, the codec is really insightful with these info, they also mention it have hard time finding a buyer lol.
oh and the reason why Excelsus is there is to give impression that it's the work of multiple terrorist faction working together and pooling their resources since no stand alone terrorist group can fund Excelsus, and make the threat way bigger if they're all organizing and working together
I still cant get over how much I love Senator Armstrong. He barely have any character buildup, just a hint of existence in the middle of the game but suddenly he enters the scene and steals the entire show by being so ham and cheese beyond epic proportions that it just compensates for any development on him.
AuthenticM
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Yeah. He's a great character. What gets me excited for the sequel is it will be made without all of the development hiccups which have plagued this game. They will start from scratch and build upon the solid foundation established by the first game. Rising 2 has the potential to be the Mass Effect 2 to Rising's first Mass Effect, or the Assassin's Creed 2 to the first game's Assassin's Creed.
HYPE
the English VO was great. great casting.
That Dude John
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I could see how this part:
could be too much for people. For me it is on a very thin line between being hilarious and awesome and just super dumb.
I guess it would depend on what you expected out of a spin-off or from the series.
I could see how this part:
could be too much for people. For me it is on a very thin line between being hilarious and awesome and just super dumb.
Everything with the Senator has the best cutscenes in the game. If only the entire game was as batshit crazy as that... That shit is just hilarious. Armstrong must return in MGR2...as a proper robot/AI controlled/cyborg/dog-thing.
it's like Platinum wanted to go stupid insane but wasn't allowed until the final boss.
Crash Station
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Did anyone else think Armstrong kind of looked like Tarantino in that one shot where he's lifting stuff up in the final fight and there's a closeup on his face?
DualShadow
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So when Raiden crushed Armstrongs heart, I'm assuming he absorbed it like he did with every other enemy? Or was it not the right type?
If he did absorb it does he have Armstrongs nanomachines in him now?
If he did absorb it does he have Armstrongs nanomachines in him now?