SteveWinwood
Member
Nah man the world is wrong. Someone has to crusade against it.
Polygon gives high scores to games despite their anti-consumer aspects / DRM strategy
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VeryGooster
Banned
Is that your website?
Edit: Tom Chicks review
http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2013/03/05/why-this-is-not-a-one-star-review-of-simcity/
petethepanda
Member
Lord, this is embarrassing for everyone involved.
Edit: I don't know who this Bogost guy is, but man does he sound like an insufferable prick.
Edit: I don't know who this Bogost guy is, but man does he sound like an insufferable prick.
Reviews are an opinion piece. One person might think that game mechanic is broken while another person might think otherwise. One person might think a bug is really bad while another might say it's a minor thing. Some might say the A.I is shit, but others might say that the A.I is just fine.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Don't know why people think Game Journos actually know what the fuck they are talking about when it comes to rating or reviewing games.
Never forget this gem.
Score aside, if most reviews had half as much criticism in it than this one I wouldn't want to hate game journalists to death.
Many F2P games will hit a certain point where the grinding just gets ridiculous and they're basically forcing you to pay if you want to progress. This doesn't seem to happen in DS3. What they're sort of doing is selling you cheats. That's not nice, but considering that the classic cheats have mostly disappeared from modern games anyway it doesn't appear to be such a huge deal for me.
I guess Halverson was right : Sonic 06 WAS a masterpiece!
justjustin
Member
Reviews should be as timeless as possible, criticizing aspects of the game. A game's distribution methods should not be factored into the score unless it is so ingrained that it significantly impacts the mechanics. Same goes for business ethics; how they treat the consumer does not affect the game. These kinds of things can change, and then the review would be unfair or unhelpful.
It would be similar to rating a film poorly if one were charged $500 to see it, and had to be at least 6 feet tall to enter the theater. It does not affect the movie, and ridiculous policies and practices can be criticized outside reviews.
It would be similar to rating a film poorly if one were charged $500 to see it, and had to be at least 6 feet tall to enter the theater. It does not affect the movie, and ridiculous policies and practices can be criticized outside reviews.
Throwaway123456789
Member
Haha what? Of course they are.
So he wants to wait for the opportunity to be a shill too?
AcceptableGhost
Member
If they wanted to sell cheats then selling, like a pistol that one shots everything in the game would be fine or a dollar for infinite credits or something. Creating an in-game economy for the sole purpose of then wrapping DLC around lightly skipping that economy / "coin doubling" it is very gross and very F2P.
The reason you get the bolded is the second part of that sentence.
Permanently A
Junior Member
this is amazing
This couldn't be going worse for Justin. Oh man.
No, just because basically all gaming media does this shit, doesn't mean it is right. A bug is a bug. Call it out. Bad game design, call that shit out. When you fail to have this shit reflect in the score it's glossing over what could be massive flaws.
Would you read a review on Street Fighter from someone who hates fighting games? No because it would be fucking shit dumb. Would you read a Skyrim review by someone who dances with the fucking box and clearly loves the franchise? No because it's fucking dumb, oh wait.
If people kept their fucking opinions out of their shit reviews we would all be better off.
I'm gonna pick on Justin's Skyrim review
Let's see. OK we got facts. The game has bugs and crashes. Ok doesn't sound too good. Oh but apparently I won't mind because it's EPIC because it's got gud music.
FUCKING LOL
Have you read reviews of other media? Because reviews are not supposed to be 100% opinion pieces at all.
SteveWinwood
Member
Justin is digging a hole so deep. He can't really be dumb enough to not understand the implications of what he's talking about right? Right?
If they were no one would read them.
partyphone
Banned
Reviews should express whether or not the reviewer liked the product. That is opinion and it is not a review if it's missing.
You can have an opinion on the product, but it shouldn't be the entirety of the review. Facts should be present. And if said fact is that a glitch exists or several glitches exist, then the product is objectively flawed and should be graded as such.
Bugs or freezes should not be open to interpretation, they are a negative to the game.
RedNumberFive
Banned
You guys need to remember that to Polygon our eyeballs are the product to be sold to publishers for advertising. Consumer Reports they are not. Their prime directive is to make publishers as happy as possible. They have zero interest in reviewing to reflect the interests of the consumer.
Wait, what is this? Why shouldn't Polygon or any other reviews site give high scores to games despite of them having DRM bullshit, on disk DLC and stuff? Aren't reviews meant to give you a general idea of it's quality? Why involve corporate policies?
This is like saying that Quentin Tarantino's movies shouldn't be praised because he has a weird foot fetish.
This is like saying that Quentin Tarantino's movies shouldn't be praised because he has a weird foot fetish.
AcceptableGhost
Member
I honestly don't have much of a problem with the review being high but arbitrarily backpedalling and docking it 1.5 points is insane. If the game doesn't work the only score they should change it to is a 0 and then put it back up to a 9.5 when it works for everyone. But then that just highlights how awful changing scores all the time is.
Where the fuck do you people pull this crap from? It's not a review if their is no opinion? Opinions are what get people in the shit in the first place. Opinions can be bought, they can be swayed. Nostalgia goggles can blind someone from the flaws of a game.
You know what would be handy? A review that said:
"Here are the bugs, Here are some broken mechanics. Here are the good bits. Decide for yourself if this is worth it or not"
Not shit that assumes I have my head shoved up my ass like the writer:
For the most part, they are.
No its nothing like that at all.
SteveWinwood
Member
There are plenty of pc games that will never work for everyone with certain hardware configurations. What about 360 games that require a hard drive and people who bought arcade packs. There is a big spectrum between no one, a few, some, most, "everyone".
It doesn't seem you actually know what an opinion is.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Small percentage PC compatibility errors are a given and servers not being able to let (a lot of) players play their (mostly) solitary game are not.
faceless007
Member
What professional reviews of movies or music are you reading that are not essentially articulated opinions as to why the work is good or bad? How else would you describe Roger Ebert's reviews, for example?
"Here are some facts - decide if you want the product."
Wouldn't that make every single review exactly the same? If facts are objective and all you're interested in we wouldn't need a multitude of voices expressing opinions on the game at a review stage.
He is detailing fundamental design flaws unrelated to server issues.
Reviews are opinions though.
Edit: Things like "ai sucks" or level design being "shit" are entirely subjective and based on opinion.
Like it even matters. 99% of reviews are the fucking same thing anyway. They are nothing but PR mouthpieces that try and get their quotes onto the back of boxes or in trailers.
Reviewers don't care about anti-consumer tactics from publishers because reviewers aren't consumers. They get all this shit for free with press accounts and early access so they don't have to deal with the same crap actual customers do. They don't see that stuff as a problem because it's not a problem they have to experience.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Don't forget that these journalists view the publishers as potential future employers. You gotta keep them happy in order to land that community lead position.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Never forget!
oh for the lovawf GAWD what of you dawn? Summary of the next 2 pages:
"Guys it was a joke it's ok!"
"it wasn't funny and he looks like a tool regardless!"
"I like orange shirts!"
"dress classy dance cheesy!"
DecoyOctopus
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Chip N Chance
Member
hahaha, wtf is this?
Press Reset. The trailer implied they all got tattoos because of the site launch, and I don't know how this was presented in the final documentary because I didn't watch it. I'm not sure why it looks like he's getting a child's handprint tattoos on himself there, unless that's the secret logo of Polygon somehow.
The invisible hand of the market driving all his reviews.
Arthur Gies getting a tattoo, taken from the Polygon documentary of last year.
Codeblew
Member
If a game isn't working on release, it deserves a 1/10. That shady practice needs to stop.
partyphone
Banned
this post is terrible I give it a 9.5/10