BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Agreed. Like Path of Exile is to Diablo III.
Well, PoE is online only, but it's also free.
How is CitiesXL?
Sim City is now down, the maintenance message is amazing
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Agreed. Like Path of Exile is to Diablo III.
Well, PoE is online only, but it's also free.
How is CitiesXL?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Not without getting interrupted by Joshua Topolsky a few times.
oconnomiyaki
Member
The moment I discovered that I could get edit packs for Pro Evolution Soccer that actually took the level of authenticity way beyond what FIFA offered, EA became the easiest company in the world to avoid. I think the only thing they could release now to get me interested in them is Mirror's Edge 2. Everything else they do, including SimCity, has become a train wreck.
I wonder how my company handles a sudden spike in server-use....
owh yeah, we rent extra capacity so we can meet demand and not make an ass out of ourselves.
At the end of the day, it comes down to economics. Is it economical to spend hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) on a server farm to handle the heavy initial load when you know that load will drop down to just 10%-20% after the first week? I don't think any company can justify that cost. It's much easier to swallow the bad press and chalk it up to "our game launch was TOO successful!" and save the money.
Yeah, this'll be interesting.
Silly post is silly.
Really hope one of the Polygon dudes respond to this. It's an obvious shot to yesterday's debacle.
The problem is its Metacritic policy to not change scores after they have been posted.
The word you are looking for here is Torchlight.
Ya!! That guy lol
Your post made me crack up by the way.
Steve Youngblood
Member
That black guy!? Poor Carl Weathers.
ColonelColon
Member
But, to be clear, that's for authentication purposes. The whole point of not giving people access to all of the game code is to make it harder to pirate.
I guess I don't really mind this, so much. I just learned after Diablo 3 that it's a terrible idea to shell out full price for a game like this right around launch. If it happens to pop up as a on sale later on I'll probably get it, or maybe I'll wait for something like a GOTY edition that packages in all the DLC. It's mildly inconvenient but I save some money.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
I consider myself a bit "older" of a gamer at 41. I grew up with Vectrex, the Atari 2600, Colecovision, Intellivision, Odyssey 2..basically when video gaming was in it's infancy.
You younger guys and ladies are "inheriting" the legacy of home gaming and what you are supporting with always on DRM in today's games is not something you should support nor be proud of.
You only back up claims from the likes of EA who state that gamers love micro-transactions, free to play models and suspect DLC(some of which is cut from full games to monetize it later).
Remember just buying a game, putting it into your console and playing it? Now we have internet activations, always on DRM, micro-transactions, DLC instead of mod tools and upcoming consoles that may block used games.
That's not what gaming is about. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. It's corporate suits sitting in an office thinking of additional ways to screw over you younger folks and extract more money from your pockets.
They're using the guise of "development costs", "next gen" features and so forth to justify the nickel and diming of your wallets.
Don't embrace this legacy. Don't support it. If you support it, you only have yourselves to blame when your "digital future" some are so eager to embrace is locked behind pay walls or downed servers.
Please fellow gamers, wake up and don't support this.
If only it were that easy
bobbychalkers
Member
They are going to evaluate lost sales due to the DRM, the cost of maintaining the servers, and brand damage, and compare that to what they project would have happened if there was no DRM but higher piracy rates.
Whichever situation ends up with a higher $ amount is the one we'll see continued in the future.
GoddyofAus
Banned
Apparently the revised score also won't show up on metacritic or other review aggregate sites...
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
One of the comments on the RPS article regarding SimCity's troubles summed it up pretty good: If EA is going to require me to be always online then I expect EA to always be online.
I wonder if this sort of thing negatively affects the Metacritic and the review scores for SimCity, if that might be a wakeup call to some extent for these publishers forcing always online connectivity.
I wonder if this sort of thing negatively affects the Metacritic and the review scores for SimCity, if that might be a wakeup call to some extent for these publishers forcing always online connectivity.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Vire
Member
This post makes me so sad, because it's so true.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Can royal fuck-ups like this cause a small crash in the industry akin to the one in 1983?
Don't worry man, Carl's got plenty of fans round my way.
Interrobang
Member
I'm not sure if that's a problem really. Shouldn't that sort of encourage outlets to make sure the score they want to give is final by the time it gets to Metacritic? As someone who used to deal with this, I know for a fact those scores aren't aggregated in, which means someone has to email their Metacritic contact and say hey this is the score for this game.
If anything they could've put the 9.5 up and then waited to give Metacritic their 8 if they really wanted to. It really just shows that they wanted that 9.5 in their to give to their PR contact.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
I was curious about this. Can't EA have a bank of servers that they can allocate to different games depending on demand (that's virtualization, right)? Or are there some unforeseen costs or technical barriers I'm not aware of?
brilliant, thanks for bringing a solid laugh. This whole thing has been depressing.
And since piracy rates are always pulled out of executives' arses, AlwaysOnline DRM will be celebrated like there's no tomorrow.
"We only sold 100.000 copies of our game."
"Well, according to our projections, that's 99.671 more than if we didn't implement DraconianDRM©."
"Really, good going then. Here have a bonus!"
Neuromancer
Member
Good call back!
I really like the game...but buyer's remorse is kicking in big time. Not really just because of the server issues, but because I honestly feel like my 60 would be better spent on other upcoming games.
When I play a game like this, I heavily invest myself into it--and with me having a brand new PC, there's sooo many other games I wanna try.
When I play a game like this, I heavily invest myself into it--and with me having a brand new PC, there's sooo many other games I wanna try.
Ronald_mcd
Member
Finally got to play for 2 hours. Does anyone know how to get all the garbage in the city picked up? Does it have to do with the number of trucks? Because I had two full garbage dumps with the full amount of trucks in each and still couldn't pick it all up... Doesn't really seem right to me
Certain games, like sports titles don't seem to last more than 2-3 years but Darkspore is still running when like 40 people play that game. I don't doubt if Simcity 4 had this DRM when it launched it wouldn't be playable officially by this time.
All I can say is that times change. Think of the music industry trying to peddle $20 albums and justifying the price by saying here are 15 songs, only one of which you care about. With the advent of the internet, companies had to adapt their models to prevent piracy and eventually the music industry has settled on selling songs rather than albums and offering licenses to companies that charge a monthly fee for service. The movie industry is also adapting as well (albeit rather slowly). The games industry is adapting (probably for the worse right now), but I am confident that the more high profile releases that get fucked up the closer we're getting to reaching an equilibrium like the music industry has right now.
Hahahahah smart.
endresults
Member
It's my birthday so my wife took the kids out for the day so I could play some SimCity.
Things are not working out as planned.
Things are not working out as planned.
PapaJustify
Member
Congratulations!
Wiz
Member
Yeah, gamers have to not support this, no matter what. The thing is they[pubs] always throw this into a game they know people want to get them to buy it.
flyinpiranha
Member
Because you're looking back with rose tinted goggles. Besides WoW and Guild Wars 2 I've never had any login issues with games and I've played a ton of great ones since 2005.