Sammy Samusu
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This right here is the real Media Create thread we were waiting for.
Let's gather guys!
Let's gather guys!
PlayStation Vita Sales See Massive Spike in Japan (nearly six times increase)
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yellowjacket25
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They won't be. They know the Vita will be around that long. For some reason though they have to pretend that it is being discontinued any day now. According to threads from last year it should already be gone.
sechsterangriff
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Whatever market share is necessary to make it a viable and profitable platform for both Sony and 3rd parties and enjoyable for its users for years to come.
It doesn't need nearly PSP market share size to be a viable platform.
Father_Brain
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Well, Sony is certainly a company that's long had a hard time recognizing the sunk cost fallacy for what it is. But retailers won't be that patient, even if Sony's board and investors prove to be (which I doubt).
Napalm_Frank
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. We deserved 5k Wiiu 30k Vita thread damnit!metalslimer
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Depends what you mean by around. If it's at the bottom of some discount bin, I wouldn't be shocked, but retailers have already moved Vita into the near dead zone with the amount of shelf space it has.
I don't think people understand how precious shelf space is, and is about to be when PS4 and Durango launch.
yellowjacket25
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How much is Sony currently losing on the Vita and when do you expect retailers to start pulling it off shelves?
SneakyStephan
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It's just typical for gaf, this forum is strictly moderated so whenever they think there is safety in numbers the trolls and assholes come out of the woodwork to spit their fanboy bile.
Just like you often have 20 people dogpiling one poster in OT, spamquoting that one person while shittalking him as soon as it is deemed safe.
A post will go unnoticed for 3 pages till one works up the stones to trash it then the rest sees the opportunity and joins in.
The attitude irks me since if vita would die all the people who already own it get fucked up the behind.
It'll be discontinued before that. There are no Vita exclusive games for the rest of the year of Japan. It needs titles, and I have my doubts that it's ever going to receive an exclusive title bigger than Persona 4 Golden.
metalslimer
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By the end of the year when the system is still selling abysmally and Durango and PS4 release. Actually some retailers have already take away Vita's shelf space.
Well Blaze make a Game Gear...
RobbieNick
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It's not hate. Both Vita and Wii U are selling poorly. Vita's doing worse, but Nintendo has the most to lose if they go down. I own both and hope for the best.
BTW, if the the newest systems on the market are doing bad, what if the same happens with PS4 and 720?
Napalm_Frank
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Bookmarking this
. I sincerily hope I am not the one that has to eat crow...I am assuming you are talking about PSPGO type of situation.
A lot of crow will be eaten.
metalslimer
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Bookmarking this
I am assuming you are talking about PSPGO type of situation.
To be clear that is a western market prediction as Durango and PS4s launch will likely have no real impact there (assuming MS even launches Durango in Japan especially if the no used things holds true)
Well when talking about Vita's overall prospects that means WW
Napalm_Frank
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...ain't we talking about jap sales here :/. Oh well whatever.
yellowjacket25
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Ok, you are on record for actually believing that the Vita will no longer be carried at retail by the end of the year. Good luck with that.
Glass Rebel
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Don't forget Disney Infinity.
The software situation looks rather dire for the Vita but I feel that shelf space will be the bigger problem later this year.
Father_Brain
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No idea how much they were losing before (there's a slim chance that they were eking out a profit, but the economy of scale renders that unlikely), but they're definitely losing more now that they cut the price in Japan. They're undoubtedly losing far less than they lost on PS3, but that platform always had strong prospects for an eventual recovery due to the massive third-party investment in it before it even launched.
Reportedly, some of the major department stores there have already stopped carrying it.
Pachterballs
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vita won't die. Sony's even outlined its plans to integrate and stream to vita making it a complete value add.
vita sells decently, and what's happening is that, instead of being happy for it, you get a whole bunch of naysayers. So, what did they expect?
60K in a week? Plus the weekly sales of 10k a week? this is weekly sales. So lets say it goes back to 10K next week.
60+10+10+10. That's 90k of vita in a month? That's great. It might or might not sustain but the pricedrop has helped and that's what matters.
Then have fun playing games on iOS devices
test_account
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Which ones?
metalslimer
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Considering how much shelf space the thing already has lost in the west? Sure, I think many stores won't be carrying it by the end of the year
It was reportedly in Japan I believe, but anecdotally my local wal mart has reduced Vita to sharing one shelf with PS3 games. And that's not one glass case, it's a single shelf.
I wish my product could sell 90k a month (someone will get this).
Napalm_Frank
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Don't worry, we still have Ouya!
Pachterballs
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Um...it wont? I'd bet my house on that.
Anyway, I think the Vita will be kept alive by a low price and PS4 integration.
Father_Brain
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Worldwide, I think many/most retailers will still be allocating a limited amount of shelf space to Vita by the end of the year (assuming production isn't officially discontinued by that point, which is entirely possible). But they'll be ordering the hardware and software in such limited quantities as to make any real recovery impossible.
And in the interest of fairness, I live in NYC, and have yet to notice any drastic reduction in Vita shelf space at the stores I visit. But the sales are what they are.
I'm not that pessimistic, but I do believe that it will be relegated to the very back of the store, around where the Gamecube and Xbox sections are at my GameStop.
Some of you really need to get this through your heads.
test_account
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But which stores in specific?
I'm just curious about it.metalslimer
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What? Also a little ironic to talk about trolling. If you think someone being very pessimistic is trolling you're on the wrong board.
I've said it before, but I'm too sure how the whole "replace your console every 2 years" plan will work.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
It will be interesting to see how the Vita fares next week. The 3DS sold 196,000 the first week after price cut only to drop to around 50,000 105,000 the week after. I wonder if Soul Sacrifice will do anything to stop such a massive fall.
As for comparing it to Wii U, Japan is traditionally handheld land. Main consoles tend to sell far worse than handhelds there. Look at the 3DS vs PS3 - The 3DS in 2 years, has already sold more units than the PS3 which has been out 3 times longer.
As for comparing it to Wii U, Japan is traditionally handheld land. Main consoles tend to sell far worse than handhelds there. Look at the 3DS vs PS3 - The 3DS in 2 years, has already sold more units than the PS3 which has been out 3 times longer.
If this is a Vita/MediaCreate thread, then why did you bring up Wii U sales?
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that's x9 last weeks wiiU sales which was at 7k.
if that's doomed, wiiU's already dead.
Jaded Alyx
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There's nothing great about a console that young selling 90k in Japan in a month, especially a handheld.
Mr_Antimatter
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Isn't that were gamestop sticks new games period these days?
yellowjacket25
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Its stuff like this that really cracks me up in Vita threads. The fact that you guys have really convinced yourselves that the Vita is going to be off of retail shelves and discontinued by the end of the year is pretty mind boggling.
If this is the Vita thread why are you talking about inaccurate Wii U sales numbers?
Vita doesn't need tons of shelf space though since every game is sold on psn and retail day one. Sony would not kill Vita off with PS4 coming down the line. They would hurt their brand before a big console launch. Always got a laugh from fools that suggested that last year. Reading this thread you would think Vita killed some peoples children lol. System is great hope sales spike last for a bit.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Yep, I've fixed the post now.
BronsonLee
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Well see here's the kicker; you either can't tell the difference between a collector's edition SKU of an F2P MMO vs a normal game release, or you're not exactly a reliable narrator here. Not saying I am either, but I'm not trying to give any weight to my opinion, really.
Pachterballs
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If this is a Vita/MediaCreate thread, then why did you bring up Wii U sales?
I thought I was blocked.
I'm was stating the fact that it was selling really well in comparison to another current gen system; much less a home console. and yet, people were saying its doomed.
Sony should have thrown money at Capcom to do a exclusive monster hunter for Vita. The turnaround that would have happened would have been incredible. I'm not sure why they didn't
GAF. even in a good news thread, its super negative
here's a picture of a unicorn.
okay 9k. so vita is selling 5x per week what wiiU is selling last week. Not 6x.
metalslimer
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This may be somewhat off topic, but why do people automatically assume people hate a company/product if they are pessimistic about it. And this specifically applies to video games. I mean I don't see people in the OT getting completely defensive about the notion that RIM and their line of Blackberries on a preicipitous decline. Besides the whole Apple Samsung nonsense people don't seem nearly as emotionally invested.
What are you even talking about? Someone said that the Vita bump was caused by PSO2 which is completely unprovable and makes little sense considering the fact that Vita had a big price drop.
When you use the word per normally that implies the event has continued.
What are you even talking about? Someone said that the Vita bump was caused by PSO2 which is completely unprovable and makes little sense considering the fact that Vita had a big price drop.
When you use the word per normally that implies the event has continued.
Vita selling "really well" in relation to Wii U is not exactly a high bar to clear, and pretty laughable as reason for optimism in itself.
Tales of Hearts R is probably going to do more than Soul Sacrifice, honestly.
I thought I was blocked.
Your posts are mildly entertaining to read because I know you're being serious lol.
CosmicQueso
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Then nothing but iOS threads as far as the GAF will go...
More vita's is always better.
I don't see the appeal in the 3DS ( not into those "JRPG" and kids games) so I would HATE to see the handheld market be on the phone and Nintendo ( i also dont find the phone games fun)
On the vita, at least 6 different games I play consistently. Sure it can do with more games but I love it.
I don't see the appeal in the 3DS ( not into those "JRPG" and kids games) so I would HATE to see the handheld market be on the phone and Nintendo ( i also dont find the phone games fun)
On the vita, at least 6 different games I play consistently. Sure it can do with more games but I love it.
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