TreasureHunterG
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What's holding GOG from get Syndicate Wars? There's already a Win 7 adaptation and Syndicate s on the top seller list.
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Unpolished/janky RPG that doesn't take itself very seriously, which works in its favor. The director's cut is worth playing if you're into that stuff.
The general consensus is to play Mask of the Betrayer. A lot of the talent behind Planescape: Torment worked on that expansion.
EA and getting the rights to the expansion is harder than it seems.
A Black Falcon
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The stories are entirely unrelated, but you technically do play as the same character in MotB that you did in NWN2. Only the main character is the same though, everything else (including other party members, etc.) is completely different.
Play NWN2 also if you want to, it is an okay game with sometimes good gameplay, but go in with somewhat low expectations, and maybe also spoil the ending for yourself before starting, to see if you actually want to play through the whole thing...
You import your character from NWN2 into MOTB, it picks up almost immediately where the base game left off, so yes it's definitely relevant.
It's also awesome, don't skip it.
Minsc
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Definitely a memorable release today, Clive Barker's Undying, an attempt at mixing an atmospheric horror game with a FPS.
I'm not sure if it's held up and still worth playing, but I definitely remember it starting out very promising back when it released then getting a little frustrating later on iirc.
I'm not sure if it's held up and still worth playing, but I definitely remember it starting out very promising back when it released then getting a little frustrating later on iirc.
Moff
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I wouldnt even call it an rpg, although there is some dialogue (and even quite funny one), gameplay is almost 100% action. not bad though.
derExperte
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To play Undying and maybe ruin the memory of an absolutely fantastic horror-shooter that sent shivers down my spine more than once? So good (and overlooked) back then. And yeah, it was a hard game, a friend gave up early. Did it have checkpoints or quicksave?
Both I think. And if it did, they weren't forgiving
Of All Trades
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No, it's meant to be scary. The sound design was great and it had good assortment of jump scares and atmosphere. It's also a decade older than Amnesia.
I always assumed they ran out of time and just threw it together given how much of a drop in quality that section was.Sinitar said:
I am amazed that GOG.com hasn't tried to sign up Sega, considering one of the biggest things people want on GOG is console games or games from other platforms than the PC, and while you aren't going to get Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft onto the service, guys like Sega and Atari could easily have their games ported.
Undying is a great release. Excellent Horror FPS with great atmosphere, pretty cool level design and even some good story and writing. It's also quite a long game and still manages to be pretty varied in its environments.
Quicksave. And you'll need it. The game is pretty hard and has a steep learning curve. This really helps to increase the tension, though. You feel never safe because you never are.
That's just the last two or three levels, you run through them pretty quickly. And yes, they represent a noticeable drop in quality. But if you can stand the Xen Levels in Half Life, you'll survive the Eternal Autumn.
The portaling around through space and time before that was awesome, IMHO.
Quicksave. And you'll need it. The game is pretty hard and has a steep learning curve. This really helps to increase the tension, though. You feel never safe because you never are.
That's just the last two or three levels, you run through them pretty quickly. And yes, they represent a noticeable drop in quality. But if you can stand the Xen Levels in Half Life, you'll survive the Eternal Autumn.
The portaling around through space and time before that was awesome, IMHO.
I haven't played Undying in a while.
Will check it out on gog.
Sega would be amazing on gog.
Will check it out on gog.
Sega would be amazing on gog.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Hmm.... I wonder how Undying has aged. Kinda tempted to check it out.
TreasureHunterG
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If they bring their Sega CD, 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast stuff for GOG would be awesome indeed.
A Black Falcon
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Even just Sega's '90s PC library would be pretty nice to see... the games would need work, as most of them have serious problems running on modern systems, but if anyone's up to trying to fix them, it's GOG.
Shadow Hog
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I'd like to remain optimistic about what Sega could bring to GOG, potentially... but realistically, you'd just get a bunch of Genesis ROMs, existing PC versions and Dreamcast/Saturn/Genesis add-on/Game Gear/Master System libraries be damned.
Source?
Sega megadrive games - the one they own the rights - are already on steam, so they could be on gog as well. Everything Nintendo did on VC on Wii could be replicated on PC - I mean legally - but it would require a lot of efforts on the legal side.
Well, I would imagine most of the work in porting Sega games to modern PCs would be done by GOG and not even involve the Sega Genesis. Sega's already got 58 Genesis ROM Dumps available for sale which work on modern systems in the form of the Sega Genesis Classics line. Hell, the Sega Genesis Classics line is already DRM-Free so all GOG really needs to do to them technically is adapt them to the GOG Installer and add the extras that GOG is known for. The Genesis games in this case would really just serve as the source of cash to fund GOG working on getting more difficult Sega titles ported to modern systems.
Sorry, I forgot to put the link in.
go here : http://www.thecatlady.co.uk/
click on "other suppliers" on the left side of the page.
Shadow Hog
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My point is that I'm really not interested in playing Genesis games in an emulator, only now available from source #23094549354. I'd be more interested in seeing the original PC ports of those titles, but there's a fat chance of that happening.
Sonic 3D, for instance. It had a PC port. True, it only ran at 30FPS and kinda requires D3DWindower to run on a modern computer, but it was otherwise a better version than the Genesis one - better graphics, better special stages, and I'm more partial to Richard Jacques's soundtrack than I am the Jun Senoue/Tatsuyuki Maeda one for the Genesis. Guess which version we'd get in a theoretical GOG release? Hint: it wouldn't be the PC one.
Same thing would probably happen for things like Comix Zone or Ecco or Sonic CD (actually in that case I suppose the 2011 rerelease would be preferable anyway) or Virtua Fighter 2 (the Genesis version isn't even the same game, Sega! Stop rereleasing that trash :\)...
Sonic 3D, for instance. It had a PC port. True, it only ran at 30FPS and kinda requires D3DWindower to run on a modern computer, but it was otherwise a better version than the Genesis one - better graphics, better special stages, and I'm more partial to Richard Jacques's soundtrack than I am the Jun Senoue/Tatsuyuki Maeda one for the Genesis. Guess which version we'd get in a theoretical GOG release? Hint: it wouldn't be the PC one.
Same thing would probably happen for things like Comix Zone or Ecco or Sonic CD (actually in that case I suppose the 2011 rerelease would be preferable anyway) or Virtua Fighter 2 (the Genesis version isn't even the same game, Sega! Stop rereleasing that trash :\)...
A Black Falcon
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The best thing about Sonic 3D Blast's PC version is that it actually supports saving! The Genesis and Saturn versions don't have that, but the PC version does. Unfortunately, it does not run on modern computers, so they'd need to figure out why that is.
Finally Undying comes to digital distribution.
I feel like it probably aged pretty well.
I last played it about 5 or 6 years ago and it is still a great game to play.
I feel like it probably aged pretty well.
I last played it about 5 or 6 years ago and it is still a great game to play.
Shadow Hog
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As I said in that quoted post, I can get it to run on my modern rig... just needs D3DWindower. I'm guessing it's a "320x240 resolution not supported kthxbye" deal or something.
A Black Falcon
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D3DWindower? I don't think I know that... looks like it makes fullscreen things windowed. Not often useful, but I guess it'd be nice for fullscreen-only Win9x games that run at below 640x480, such as Sonic 3D Blast or Fire Fight.
What I'd really like to see, though, is a way to run Win9x games that run in a 320x240 window or 320x240 fullscreen to run in at least a higher-resolution (scaled, whatever) window or fullscreen mode... stuff like Sonic & Knuckles Collection, Sonic CD, and Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure are all pretty much unplayable because of how miniscule that window is. I have to play those on my Win9x computer.
Secret Fawful
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Undying is one of my favorite games of all time after playing through it a bit. It's not just creepy, it's FUN. It reminds me a lot of Eternal Darkness and Amnesia.
The Cat Lady is a fantastic game, but very gory. The story is top notch and very cinematic, but is not the sort of story you'd find being told on the big screen easily due to its content. The adventure game is perfect for something with mature content like this. It needs more exposure.
The Cat Lady is a fantastic game, but very gory. The story is top notch and very cinematic, but is not the sort of story you'd find being told on the big screen easily due to its content. The adventure game is perfect for something with mature content like this. It needs more exposure.
archnemesis
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Way too many. They still haven't added classics like Dungeon Master or the Eye of the Beholder series. I haven't played all of these yet, so my list might contain some errors.
First-person dungeon crawlers
• Lands of Lore: Guardians of Destiny
• Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos
• Might and Magic: The Secret of the Inner Sanctum
• Might and Magic II: Gates to Another World
• Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra
• Might and Magic IV: Clouds of Xeen
• Might and Magic V: Darkside of Xeen
• Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven
• Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor
• Might and Magic VIII: Day of the Destroyer
• Might and Magic IX
RPGs with some first-person element
• Realms of Arkania: Blade of Destiny
• Realms of Arkania: Blade of Destiny
• Ultima I: The First Age of Darkness
• Ultima II: The Revenge of the Enchantress
• Ultima III: Exodus
• Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (free)
• Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny
• Ultima VI: The False Prophet
First-person real-time
• Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss
• Ultima Underworld II: Labyrinth of Worlds
A Black Falcon
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Stonekeep and all 9 of the Might & Magic games immediately come to mind. The M&M games have world exploration too, not just dungeons (or at least, the 4th through 9th games all do; the 9th one is buggy and flawed, but the 4th through 8th ones are worth trying for sure, or at least some of them are.), but Stonekeep's pretty much just a dungeon crawler. Lands of Lore (1+2) is another pair of pretty good first person dungeon-crawling games on GOG. The third game (also on GOG) is apparently not that good, but the first and second are.
Fermbiz
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Thank you and thank you. LoG is the first game I've played of that type and I crave more!
archnemesis
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Don't do what I did! I got most of them at once from a holiday sale.
Lands of Lore 1 and 2. <3 Westwood <3
Tons.
Might & Magic
Lands of Lore
Realms of Arkania
Realms of the Haunting (sorta)
Stonekeep
Ishar
eh, beaten
Of All Trades
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Lands of Lore 2 isn't really like Grimrock at all. It's much closer to UU. I also thought it was pretty bleh, although still better than LoL3.
Of the games on GoG I think Lands of Lore 1 is the most like Grimrock in playstyle. After that would be Stonekeep which needs serious nostalgia in one hand and Gamefaqs in the other to enjoy (a lot of very hidden, have to click everywhere stuff). Following that would be M&M 3-5 which are not real-time but still very close in feel.
Personally I would buy LoL 1+2 and the M&M 1-6 pack. Play LoL1 and M&M 4+5 (they merge into a single giant game). Also I think there's a free java version of Dungeon Master, which is probably the actual closest game to Grimrock in gameplay, interface, and dungeon design.
Yeah, LoL2 is pretty terrible, with some really irritating gameplay elements and graphics that have aged terribly. The first game actually looks better and is certainly more fun.
Grimrock is more or less modeled after the Eye of the Beholder games, which unfortunately haven't been released yet (but fingers crossed!).
Didn't Sega recently rerelease the Arcade version of Virtua Fighter 2 on XBLA alongside Sonic the Fighters and Fighting Vipers. I'm pretty sure those three will at least appear on Steam at some point, since it got the Dreamcast games and Nights into Dreams, even if it leads to the odd situation of having both the Arcade version and the Genesis version of Virtua Fighter 2 available.
I would assume that the Sega PC version of Sonic 3D Blast is based on the Saturn version so it might be worth porting, and looking on Wikipedia, the Sega PC version of Ecco is based on the Sega CD version and might also be worth porting. While I can't say if the Sega PC version of Comix Zone adds anything from its Genesis counterpart, something like Sonic & Knuckles Collection is just a poor port that yeah, releasing Genesis ROM Dumps and just adding the extras of Sonic & Knuckles Collection are preferable to porting it straight out.
Why is Sega not on GOG I wonder?
A Black Falcon
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Sonic 3D Blast for the PC is based on the Saturn version, but it has different bonus stages -- they use 2d sprites, instead of polygonal 3d like they are on Saturn (though the "Sonic 2 bonus stage" design style is the same) -- and also, as I said earlier, it's the only version that allows you to save your progress.
As for Ecco 1, the PC version of Ecco is the best version; it's basically the Sega CD version, but with 256 color graphics.
I haven't played PC Comix Zone, so I'm not sure about that one, but S&K Collection isn't that bad of a port... for the most part it's pretty good, apart from the usual serious issues running on a modern computer of course (as I said, it only runs in a 320x240 window... not exactly playable.). I know some people dislike some changes they made to the music, but the gameplay is the same.
Does Sega ever do the smart thing? And Capcom's also missing... Konami too, yes?
Tizoc
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Brutha please, the only time one would say 'SEGA did a smart thing' is when that person LIKES it.
...but all things considered their PC side has been doing well on Steam, dunno if they'd extend to gog unless gog can offer good income for them.
...though even if they were to release more of their classic titles, people'll still complain about something in regards to them.
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