I suspect that the apprehension of DRM free is tenfold greater from Japanese publishers than Western ones, at least it seems many of them have ultimately acknowledged their older games are absurdly easy to pirate so it's worthless trying to slap DRM on.
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Dammit, this thread's psychic nature lives on:
Syndicate Wars
Also: Anodyne. That's not a title that really makes the game sound interesting!
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Hilarious, yo.
First, Capcom is not missing. The thing is Street Fighter Alpha 2 here is a rerelease of the PC version from 1998.
Well, it's less that Japanese publishers have an apprehension for DRM-Free and more that most see PC as a platform not worth supporting compared to consoles and handhelds. Whenever a Japanese publisher allows a PC release of their games, it is usually done through their Western subsidiaries like with the Eidos properties Square Enix owns, Sega Europe, or Capcom USA. Outside of Square Enix and Sega, most big Japanese companies aren't really a force in the PC realm.
TreasureHunterG
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I love you, GOG.com!
A Black Falcon
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Oh, right, SFA2... well, now we apparently know why that's Capcom's only game on GOG: Capcom Japan just doesn't care one bit. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=527616
As someone who didn't play Syndicate until it was released on GOG, I hope this is a lot more accessible. I feel like a lot of the other Bullfrog games still hold up but Syndicate is kind of a mess. Outside of the awesome amoral setting, I mean.
Syndicate isn't accessible? It's entirely mouse driven and quite easy to play.
Quick, someone make a prediction for the LucasArts games!
Takes more than 2 minutes to understand.
... I'm semi serious. I'd like to give it a serious shot sometime, but I do feel like I'd need to spend some time actually going over the documentation first and doing a bit of trial and error, and I've got quite a backlog. It's no 80s computer RPG though, that's for sure.
What I played of the game was awful and annoying. Zone in, wander around for 10 seconds, get murdered by a train of ~20 bad guys. This is not an exaggeration.
I guess I could have picked the wrong area to start in but that happened three times in a row and I had lots of other fun stuff to play.
Anyway, I picked up Syndicate Wars and I didn't die in 10 seconds so that's a plus. That camera is something else, though.
edit: I guess "accessible" was the wrong word. I just didn't like what I played of Syndicate 1. The other Bullfrog games I've played instantly hooked me (Theme Hospital, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper, Magic Carpet) so I was disappointed that Syndicate left such a lousy first impression.
Tummi Gummi
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It can be a tough game at times, but there really is very little you need to read up on before playing. Understand the basic interface, the existence of the research/upgrades menus between missions, aaaaaaaad...that's about it.
Paradox is working a spiritual successor called "Cartel". Hopefully it's good.
SteveWinwood
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I kept hearing okay things about the reboot but it never came out anywhere but origin :/
It's complete garbage, I spent 5 dollars on it and regretted my time
It's great if you're looking for a cataract simulator.
harriet the spy
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Most of the first missions are pretty easy and should allow you to 'get' into the universe/game without too much risk. Get four shotguns (or even better, four miniguns, but they come after), control all agents at the same time, and when shit really hits the fan, boost their three levels of drugs.
Protip: flamethrowers + large civilian populations = fun
protip 2: persuadotron + large civilian populations + lots of guns left behind by enemy agents = even more fun.
The persuadotron is in fact a bit broken, especially if you get brain upgrades early on. But you certainly don't need it.
In general, it's not really possible to fuck up and get yourself stuck.
Don't hesitate to tax those guys. Default tax are - if i remember - way too low.
TreasureHunterG
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Syndicate Wars is a far better game though.
SteveWinwood
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Tummi Gummi
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Hmmm...
Same experience as the above. Paid 5 dollars, played on PC on max. Bloom was genuinely appalling, the writing eye-rollingly predictable and totally out of sync with the originals (tho I'd already found that out via a 100% accurate leaked script years ago). Even putting that aside it's a pretty poor FPS, and I quit about half way through. Did have some somewhat interesting ideas that were predictably underused. You're better off playing something like Deus Ex for a good corporate cyberpunk(ish) game.
Ingueferroque
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TreasureHunterG
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I agree with all the negative reviews for Syndicate. The only thing in common between Starbreeze's Syndicate with Bullfrog's is the name and the cyberpunk aesthetic, otherwise, it's a completely different game.
You heard wrong. It's abysmal. It's a hyper linear, short, poorly written, poorly paced, bland, predictable autogame for the ADD generation.
I think it takes a bit of time to get used to the IPA adjustment, and I always felt that it was *very* easy to exploit that; I'd start a level by cranking them *down* massively to swing the midpoint left and I'd use the panic button (was it L+R on the meters?) whenever action starts to instantly get a massive buff.
Also, as mentioned earlier, getting an army with the persuadertron is a bit too easy, and when you get to the stage that you can persuade enemy agents you're fundamentally unstoppable. It's notable that the hardest levels are the ones with no civilians to make the initial leap.
Tizoc
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Rather interest in Silver, could someone provide impressions of it please?
In other terms, 8.2/10
Pre-order: Eador: Masters of the Broken World
http://www.gog.com/news/preorder_eador_masters_of_the_broken_world
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archnemesis
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That looks interesting. I just got Warlock the other day, but I might pick that up once I'm done with it.
It has one of the best single player fps campaigns I've played in years. It has nothing do with Syndicate other than the name and world.
vagabondarts
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So with today's sale I'm picking up two of my favorite games of all time and trying out some new old games, all for play on my netbook.
RCT
RCT2
(I already bought these years ago but I want the DRM free easy to install on a netbook version)
Master of Orion 1&2 (I hear great things about these)
Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive (always wanted to try this)
Chris Sawyer's Locomotion (Yes, I know about OpenTTD. I have it and play it.)
RCT
RCT2
(I already bought these years ago but I want the DRM free easy to install on a netbook version)
Master of Orion 1&2 (I hear great things about these)
Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive (always wanted to try this)
Chris Sawyer's Locomotion (Yes, I know about OpenTTD. I have it and play it.)
Can someone explain me why OpenTTD is better ? Spend a ton of time in Locomotion tried once OpenTTD and couldn't even buy a bus.
vagabondarts
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That's why I bought Locomotion, because OpenTTD is really dense.
I wanted to play Chris Sawyer's most recent version as I never played the original TTD, just the open source version.
Somewhere I read that Locomotion excels at building and managing trains as opposed to managing trade routes and monopolies.
I like trains.
I'll post my thoughts comparing the two after a week or so poking around with it.
One day they will appear... and it will be glorious indeed.
Synth_floyd
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I wonder why the Gold Box games, Eye of the Beholder games or the classic Wizardry games haven't appeared on Gog.
Licensing hell.
Well, I imagine something can be worked out eventually for Eye of the Beholder and the D&D Goldbox games given the Infinite Engine games are there along with NWN.
But Wizardry's held in different hands, and I have a feeling they won't see the value in getting on GOG unfortunately.
Delusibeta
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Escape from Butcher Bay is regarded as really very good, while Assault on Dark Athena was merely passable. However, Butcher Bay is included in Dark Athena, so no problem there. Also should be noted that the GOG version is the best version by virtue of being the only place where you can get Dark Athena without TAGES DRM.
vagabondarts
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Here's my quick and dirty impressions after playing for 30 minutes or so on each of my new games (I'm not commenting on RCT 1 & 2, since I've been playing those for years)
Desperados is interesting so far, I'm a couple of maps in.
The UI is taking me awhile to get used to, but I can see later maps being totally amazing. I really love the 2d sprite style of these old games... kind of like fallout or jagged alliance.
Master of Orion 1 is an elegant deep beast of a game that I can't wait to pour a rainy afternoon into. I can tell this is one of those games that you just get lost in. I love the interface, graphics and everything so far.
Master of Orion 2 is not as elegant and a little harder on the eyes. I also can't seem to get the hang of navigating the menus yet.
Locomotion is so much more accessible than OpenTTD it's not even funny. I had buses and stops set up literally within a minute of opening the map. A lot of hours will be put into this game. SO GLAD I got this today.
I have to imagine that when it came out, people were tired of the RCT style and that hurt the reception of the title in a lot of ways. Also, laying track and roads is more like designing roller coasters than paths to use a RCT reference. I'm super fond of the graphics and tilesets which all 'belong' together as opposed to the OpenTTD tilesets which can look like more of a mishmash depending on what graphics set you are using.
All in all, lots of fun ahead for less than 12 bucks. Master of Orion 1, Locomotion and Desperados excite me the most. I'm kind of dreading Master of Orion II.
Desperados is interesting so far, I'm a couple of maps in.
The UI is taking me awhile to get used to, but I can see later maps being totally amazing. I really love the 2d sprite style of these old games... kind of like fallout or jagged alliance.
Master of Orion 1 is an elegant deep beast of a game that I can't wait to pour a rainy afternoon into. I can tell this is one of those games that you just get lost in. I love the interface, graphics and everything so far.
Master of Orion 2 is not as elegant and a little harder on the eyes. I also can't seem to get the hang of navigating the menus yet.
Locomotion is so much more accessible than OpenTTD it's not even funny. I had buses and stops set up literally within a minute of opening the map. A lot of hours will be put into this game. SO GLAD I got this today.
I have to imagine that when it came out, people were tired of the RCT style and that hurt the reception of the title in a lot of ways. Also, laying track and roads is more like designing roller coasters than paths to use a RCT reference. I'm super fond of the graphics and tilesets which all 'belong' together as opposed to the OpenTTD tilesets which can look like more of a mishmash depending on what graphics set you are using.
All in all, lots of fun ahead for less than 12 bucks. Master of Orion 1, Locomotion and Desperados excite me the most. I'm kind of dreading Master of Orion II.
Torhthelm Tídwald
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It sounds like they are making a reference to something, but it's so subtle I can't imagine what it is...
Thanks for the heads-up, I'll look into it.
It's quite cheap there now. The coop is worth the asking price alone, if you can find at least one person to play with you.
It might be a bit of all that, but I did enjoy the gunplay and visuals are fantastic in the campaign. It's got a great setting and serves as a fun afternoon FPS, but the coop is where it shines.
I find the coop to be fairly close to the original premise, differente genres considered. It requires a lot of tactics in order to succeed, this time requiring teamwork. The research options, chip upgrades, difficulty, enemy types, weapons etc, were fun and well implemented.
How many modern shooters even bother having bosses? I'd say it deserves a shot, if those on the fence asked for my 2 cents. Even more so at a discount price.
Minsc
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While they're both regarded highly, the second is generally favored over the first, and I've always found it to hold up better myself and be the more interesting game of the two, interesting to see someone finding it so off-putting compared to the first. The second does the whole tactical ship combat (make sure to enable it) so it makes the ship building much more fun, which is a pretty big aspect of the game.
vagabondarts
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That is weird, but then I'm pretty weird. Obviously, I'll need more than 30 minutes to really dive into it.
Your comments inspire me that it will be awesome and worth wrangling the UI for. Thank you!
Also, in regards to Locomotion's accessibility I found this short interview of Chris Sawyer on gamespot. His comments on the eve of Locomotion's release sum up the difference between it and OpenTTD:
Locomotion is really surprising to me. I always stayed away because the reviews were so bad and word of mouth was that OpenTTD was better, but I'm finding that really isn't representative of what I'm playing.
TJP
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I really enjoyed both Riddick games. Well worth buying if you enjoy Starbreeze made games.
Also note that the game did have anti-virus warning issues that may still exist. A false positive was triggered by one of the files by many of the popular anti-virus programs however GOG stated it was nothing to worry about as the game was 100% clean. FWIW I never had the FP issue and posted in the GOG forums that the file which caused the issue had received an all-clear confirmation from both Kaspersky Labs and Symantec.
JasonUresti
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Master of Orion holds up ever so slightly more ably, as it's such an elegant design. MoO2 added a lot of extra micromanagement, and fake decisions (lots of extra stuff to click on, much of it meaningless).
MoO2 is more enjoyable as a sandbox of different races and technologies to play with, MoO is probably the better game.
MoO2 is more enjoyable as a sandbox of different races and technologies to play with, MoO is probably the better game.
Syphon Filter
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Does gog have a client?
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