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[Sir Ilpalazzo]

We play the prologue as Big Boss and the rest of the game as the "copy". Remember MGS2?

Yeah, that could be it. In that case you would think Hayter wouldn't have said anything, though.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Doubtful. Unless you are actually reliving his memories, it would make no sense, it would just be a big waste of time to not play as Big Boss when we can do so.

Could make sense to avoid making Big Boss a truly bad guy.

 

[Skilletor]

Best game trailer of all time? Maybe

I'm popping in the MGS Collection right now. I'm too hype.


Hmm isn't Snake too young to be in this game? What year is it I'm confused now....

I just bought mgs1 and am playing it on vita. I haven't played peace walker yet. Can't wait to get to it. Hype.

 

[EatChildren]

Also, anyone else noticed that Snake is alone when crawling out of the vehicle, despite clearly being with Ishmael moments before when the vehicle was flipping around ?

'Ishmael' is probably a hallucination.

 

[Mik_Pad]

So it seems no Hayter at all confirmed by the Pope.

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/317074209220222976

 

[TL21xx]

Then how do you explain Snake's Japanese VA being the same?

Bait and switch. You play as Big Boss in Ground Zeroes (Which has been confirmed to be MGS V's tanker level). You play as this other guy in The Phantom Pain.

Regardless, I want to hear Kojima out before saying anything. It just seems out of nowhere to drop Hayter. If there isn't a legitimate storyline reason, I'm positive it has something to do with the MGS movie. Either Kojima is casting in preparation, or bad blood manifested when Hayter was working on a draft. We'll have to wait and see from Geoff's interview.

 

[Graphics Horse]

'Ishmael' is probably a hallucination.

He's in the passenger seat though.. and that screencap of him grabbing the wheel is from when it's flipping upside down.

 

[DrBo42]

He would be like what 11-12 years old? That would be really weird.

Peace Walker takes place in 1974 and Les Enfants Terribles Projects was in 1972. If it's 9 years after Peace Walker it means that it's been like 11 years since Solid Snake was born.

The clones in this series rapidly age, right? Or was that just a device to have "Old Snake" in MGS4?

 

[papercamm]

Best game trailer of all time? Maybe

I'm popping in the MGS Collection right now. I'm too hype.


Hmm isn't Snake too young to be in this game? What year is it I'm confused now....

I could be wrong but by the events of Phantom Pain I think he'd be something like ten years old?

 

[Kuroyume]

One of the best trailers ever. Kojima/Kojipro is in a class of his/its own.

 

[Jawmuncher]

The clones in this series rapidly age, right? Or was that just a device to have "Old Snake" in MGS4?

It was just a device I recall so they can say foxdie affected him in some way,

 

[nopenopenope]

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[Little Old Man]

I'm going to take a guess at the story, and speculate that a young Psycho Mantis will follow Snake throughout, haunting him with visions of those he has killed in his life, thus seeing them as ghosts or in place of soldiers attacking him (such as The Boss on horseback).

This leads him to thinking of creating Zanzibarland as a way of addressing his guilt and the memories which haunt him, towards the end of the game.

 

[Sub_Level]

Remember MGS2, when Big Shell incident was just some kind of VR training to show how you could create someone like Snake from any soldier?

No, I don't, because the Big Shell incident wasn't "some kind of VR training" lol

 

[op_ivy]

He's in the passenger seat though.. and that screencap of him grabbing the wheel is from when it's flipping upside down.

just. let. go

 

[Graphics Horse]

just. let. go

True, just saying it's not just purely the guy being a hallucination. But Snake being 'both' guys would work.

I'm wondering if Chico might have been booby trapped (

 

[Ahasverus]

OMG Gaf I can't believe you are not only not satisfied with gra´hics, but are only talking about them! How could we forget the games when it was not about the dithering but about this is a game that looks that I want to play? I think my gaming life was better before coming here, seriously, the devil is in the details indeed.

The trailer was breathtaking and I'll be there day one.

 

[SniperHunter]

I really love the gameplay video, Jack Bauer is a great voice actor and looks like that section provides a nice break from the action. The music was also pretty good

 

[Cassius]

Running on a PC...

Interesting.

 

[DrBo42]

Solidus would back up that idea. I don't remember off the top of my head if we ever got an explanation as to why Solidus aged more first.

Wasn't it a different technique or something? Maybe something about being cloned from a different point of his life? I just remember Solidus being the most "complete" clone.

 

[dragonfart28]

What the shit did I just watch?

 

[Sub_Level]

Solidus would back up that idea. I don't remember off the top of my head if we ever got an explanation as to why Solidus aged more first.

It's never really explained, he simply accelerated at a far more rapid rate despite being the youngest of the 3. Keep in mind he also groomed himself specifically to look like old Big Boss too so the whole grey hair schtick could've been dye.

 

[Nokagi]

So it seems no Hayter at all confirmed by the Pope.

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/317074209220222976

Well that's that I guess. Geoff said Kojima gave a reason as to why no Hayter.. really interested to know what that reason is now.

 

[akidnamededdy]

Hmmm regarding the whole Moby Dick motif, what if

Zero = Ahab
Big Boss = the white whale
Ishmael = a Cypher agent

?

 

[BattleMonkey]

The clones in this series rapidly age, right? Or was that just a device to have "Old Snake" in MGS4?

It was an effect caused by the Foxdie

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

No, I don't, because the Big Shell incident wasn't "some kind of VR training" lol

I know, but the superficial reason behind it. They just wanted to show that a Solid Snake quality soldier could be born if other soldier faced similar extreme situations.

 

[bennyc12]

Bait and switch. You play as Big Boss in Ground Zeroes (Which has been confirmed to be MGS V's tanker level). You play as this other guy in The Phantom Pain.

Regardless, I want to hear Kojima out before saying anything. It just seems out of nowhere to drop Hayter. If there isn't a legitimate storyline reason, I'm positive it has something to do with the MGS movie. Either Kojima is casting in preparation, or bad blood manifested when Hayter was working on a draft. We'll have to wait and see from Geoff's interview.

Why do you make it seem so outrageous that they just chose not to rehire him?

 

[Live Free or Die]

What the shit did I just watch?

History in the making.

 

[akidnamededdy]

It was an effect caused by the Foxdie

Pretty sure Naomi said

Spoiler

Solid was engineered to age and die quicker than a normal person (as a countermeasure similar to engineering them unable to reproduce)

.

 

[Sub_Level]

It was an effect caused by the Foxdie

Nope, Solidus aged faster too and was never exposed to FOXDIE. It's a side effect of being a clone in the MGS universe.

 

[Future PhaZe]

time to buy peacewalker

 

[raven777]

When is geoff's interview going to come out?

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

time to buy peacewalker

Just look up the plot on a wiki or something. IS pretty bad.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

It was an effect caused by the Foxdie

That is incorrect. It's because he was a clone.

It's a side effect of being a clone in the MGS universe.

To be clear, they were designed that way on purpose, it's not really a side effect. Same with them being unable to have kids. If I remember correctly the idea was that if an enemy captured a clone, it would be hard for them to research/reverse engineer them because they would have relatively limited time.

 

[dummydecoy]

Who the guy in the gifs in OP with the eye patch? Snake or Big Boss? I can't tell anymore at this point.

 

[Cassius]

High quality download of the trailer.

Suck it Youtube compression.

http://www.shacknews.com/file/34787/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-gdc-2013-trailer

 

[Akainu]

Really, really good trailer. Excellent cutting and song choice. Colour me hyped.

The man made Rising look interesting. Par for the course.

 

[BigBoss]

Who the guy in the gifs in OP with the eye patch? Snake or Big Boss? I can't tell anymore at this point.

Its Big Boss.

 

[Akainu]

time to buy peacewalker

Do it.

Just look up the plot on a wiki or something. IS pretty bad.

Don't listen to this guy.

 

[Accoun]

When is geoff's interview going to come out?

In a few days IIRC. No specific date.

 

[RdN]

Can't wait!!

But I don't know.. Jack Bauer's voice seemed to be coming from the other dude.

 

[Ruze789]

Awesome trailer, awesome gameplay, it was an awesome stream.

And I love that I'll be able to play it on my 360!

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Can't wait!!

But I don't know.. Jack Bauer's voice seemed to be coming from the other dude.

The theory that some of us are saying is that he is voicing both. He is for sure the bandaged dude, the debate is whether he is Big Boss also.

 

[Veelk]

Is there anywhere I can download an HD version of the trailer?

edit

High quality download of the trailer.

Suck it Youtube compression.

http://www.shacknews.com/file/34787/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-gdc-2013-trailer

Nevermind then. Thank you.

 

[thiscoldblack]

After watching the trailer, I have to say... I am hyped as hell. Bring it on, Kojima.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

N/M.

 

[AuthenticM]

High quality download of the trailer.

Suck it Youtube compression.

http://www.shacknews.com/file/34787/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-gdc-2013-trailer

Are you sure this is not the youtube video ? It's 178MB, just like the video on youtube.

 

[Cassius]

Same video, higher quality.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

They better be bringing this thing to next gen. Game has so many visual constraints from being hamstrung by current systems.

 

[Pharaoh 117]

High quality download of the trailer.

Suck it Youtube compression.

http://www.shacknews.com/file/34787/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-gdc-2013-trailer

It's the same youtube file, unfortunately. We didn't get high quality versions of the Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain trailers either.

Maybe we should ask Kojima on Twitter to release it to the public.