Yeah it was surprisingly blunt and unprofessional. I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't deserve that kind of dismissive attitude but still.
Kotaku: The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4
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Yeah it was surprisingly blunt and unprofessional. I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't deserve that kind of dismissive attitude but still.
I haven't seen any real evidence Japanese customers care about this. We're talking adding a couple light bulbs worth of electricity. Are they really picking and choosing systems based on that? "Hmm... well, I would get PS4, because it's getting Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy 14, but it will cost me .38 cents an hour more on my electric bill than the Wii U. Better get the Wii U!"
Shadow Hog
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Actually, yes. They went out of their way to support it with UE3.
They were going to, actually; they tried to port Unreal (the first one) to the N64, but ultimately had to cancel it. Haven't tried since, though.
Dreamcast actually had third-party support.
Who'd want FFXIV? Wasn't that game a total trainwreck?
MisterHero
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Super Mario 64 engine via SM64>OoT>Wind Waker>Wind Waker HD lineage
Hahahaha
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I hope you are not implying that the decision has anything to do with power. They are going to port that engine to smartphones, you see.
what a douchebag
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I hope you are not implying that the decision has anything to do with power. They are going to port that engine to smartphones, you see.
Which is the point. Unreal Engine 4 not natively supporting Wii U has much greater implications than just what Epic will release.
GHG
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He meant games actually made by Epic themselves, not games made by other studios that have just used their game engine.
VITA has a great hardware -superior to its rival- and that can keep it on the market for many years... besides, will have full compatibility with PS4.
WiiU has an old hardware -inferior to its rivals- and that, luckily, will keep it on the market for two or three more years.
VITA will have more than 100 games this year, including big games like Soul Sacrifice, Dragon's Crown, YS: Memories of Celceta, Valhalla Knights 3, Killzone, Tearaway, both Final Fantasy X and A LOT of great indie games like Hotline Miami, Lone Survivor or Terraria. And, when PS4 come out, you'll can play most of the PS4 games on the Vita via remote play...
WiiU... what? a Monster Hunter... a Pikmin... and what else this year? And next one, with PS4 and Durango on the market?
Don't talk nonsense...
Plinko
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Yes, rest in peace in peace.
metalslimer
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How many 3rd party games in general. The system is a wasteland of any support
Did Epic really release games on consoles before this gen?
Your right...lets research this a bit more..
mark rein said:
OHH, so it's Epic's business decision not to port the engine, not that the wiiU can't handle it.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
at what point do you guys stop being surprised?
They did it to themselves.
Phoenician_Viking
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The most funny part is StevieP worked tirelessly to convince people here that the WiiU could run U4.
Yikes, I read that in my mind followed by the canned laughter of a live studio audience and a rimshot.
But its really business as usual. Denied support, indifference by Nintendo fans, and the die hard clinging to first party games indifferent to the snub. Its nothing new. Is it?
Hasn't similar happened the past 3 generations?
Schnozberry
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Regardless of what you think of Nintendo and Wii U, this quote (if true) is wildly unprofessional and speaks volumes about why the games industry has a reputation of being run by arrogant children.
This is true, but something about the engine makes me think some elements of their engine is based off the Frostbite.
Plus Burnout Paradise uses RenderWare which is created by Criterion in house. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit and Most Wanted use new engine.
Howard Ballou
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Damn, cold blooded comedy hour. Lol
Boss Man
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Yes, there was a huge thread about it full of bickering right around Wii U's launch.
TP / SS also uses it, but really now. Very little of that engine is the same as for SM64/OoT.
Epic and Nintendo are both very strong competitors, I'd say that those two companies are competing more-so with each other than Nintendo Vs. Sony/Microsoft. Nintendo already chose sides, they picked Unity. They sat next to them at GDC. They sided with the business model that makes companies like Epic Games (and their flat % licensing fee, rather than a dollar amount like Unity) irrelevant.
So yea, they probably won't get Unreal Engine 4. It doesn't make sense from a business standpoint to give your main competitor your greatest asset.
So yea, they probably won't get Unreal Engine 4. It doesn't make sense from a business standpoint to give your main competitor your greatest asset.
Haunted
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I'm already repeating myself although this gen has only gotten started, but Western third parties and Nintendo is not a love story with a happy ending.
It is, but it's not as powerful as its peers for the next six+ years.
ViewtifulJC
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How many games do we know are in development for the Wii U?
I'm both surprised and not surprised by this. Someone told me Epic was porting it to the Wii-U and they seemed pretty confident in this. However I can't imagine how the engine would run on the system or why Epic would bother when UE3 already runs on the Wii-U.
Epic said someone could port UE3 to the Wii as well and we all know how that went.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for any company to port the engine to the Wii-U when we don't see more compatible engines being ported over to the system.
Epic said someone could port UE3 to the Wii as well and we all know how that went.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for any company to port the engine to the Wii-U when we don't see more compatible engines being ported over to the system.
Hollywood has been creatively bankrupt for a while though. High quality TV shows have been surpassing their best for over a decade. This was unthinkable in the '80s.
The videogame market is also at risk. A high barrier of entry is never a good thing, in any market. It stifles innovation.
That thread was if WiiU could run it or not, which it can, not that epic doesn't want to port the engine.
plantedunicorn
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I just want to know what's going on at Nintendo HQ. Lets be honest, this info about no UE4, no Frostbite and all the other 3rd party games that are not coming to Wii U like MGS, BF4 etc; is not a surprise to Nintendo. They probably knew they were not going to get all that support a long time ago. So why the hell are they sitting on their ass on not getting in front of this shit?
They've been quite over everything. When you think about it though, what could they possibly say to all this terrible info surrounding their new console that hasn't even been on the market for six months and any sort of support has already vanished.
I never thought it would happen but now I will not be surprised if COD is not on Wii U this fall. That is the definite final nail in the coffin in regards to 3rd party support.
They've been quite over everything. When you think about it though, what could they possibly say to all this terrible info surrounding their new console that hasn't even been on the market for six months and any sort of support has already vanished.
I never thought it would happen but now I will not be surprised if COD is not on Wii U this fall. That is the definite final nail in the coffin in regards to 3rd party support.
Coffee Dog
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oh my god hahahahaha
There is some Epic crow in that thread, I bet.
Psycho_Mantis
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Oh shit. Third parties laughing at WiiU.
Looks like both EA and Epic regard WiiU as not next gen.
I am actually amazed at how ignorant Nintendo has become.
There is not enough crow in the world to feed some of the poster in the WiiU speculation threads.
Just a taste:
Tallshortman
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lol getting salty at Epic for nintendo's mistakes.
You realize you're quoting the very old Mark Rein quote, right? Hahahaha no is the new answer.
Opus Angelorum
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metalslimer
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Western support is better than japanese support
Basileus777
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Of course it's a business decision, what else would it be? And if Epic isn't officially supporting UE4 on the WiiU, there's not much chance others will go and port it themselves.
To be honest, Nintendo seems to be opening up to indie developers as an alternative, which I approve. If traditional third parties don't seem so receptive go for the indies bring more variety that way.
Plinko
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Nobody should be.
I'm fascinated to see how E3 will go for Nintendo now. Will we ever hear a company executive talk about this?
XANDER CAGE
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The all-caps VITA makes this post all the better.
Shadow Hog
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At this point I'll be surprised if Nintendo sits this out for that long. I don't expect them to scrap the console too soon, of course, but I would expect to see the next Nintendo home console out on the market before people are even thinking about the PS5 being in the immediate future. It'd be pretty stupid to do anything else.
Basically, y'know how long the GBA lasted? Like, what, three years, before the DS came out?
Boss Man
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This seems sort of redundant though. I think the idea is that by the time UE4 was "ported", it would be another version of UE3.
Punkster_NY
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red-headed stepchild of gaming?
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