Kotaku: The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4

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There's still hope with the indies. Whereas there wont be as much support from the big publishers who will use UE4 to power their games. There will be alot of support from indie devs, as they can now easily self publish their games on Nintendo platforms with minimum fuss and little cost. They also get the free well respected Unity engine to make games.
 
RedSwirl said:
That's just Unreal Engine. Epic has never themselves shipped a game for Nintendo hardware.
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Epic makes most of their money on their engines. They want their engine on as many platforms as possible. This idea that they hate Nintendo and wouldn't want their engine on the Wii u out of spite is laughable and stupid.
 
IceCold said:
I thought people loved the Dreamcast.
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Well, a system dying young before fulfilling its potential makes for a good story and some very fond memories. You don't only see the Dreamcast lauded for what it did deliver, but for what it could've delivered in the future. And I'm sure that a segment of gamers loved the DC for Sega's phenomenal first party games and there will be people who will love the WiiU for Nintendo's first party output.


Shadow Hog said:
At this point I'll be surprised if Nintendo sits this out for that long. I don't expect them to scrap the console too soon, of course, but I would expect to see the next Nintendo home console out on the market before people are even thinking about the PS5 being in the immediate future. It'd be pretty stupid to do anything else.

Basically, y'know how long the GBA lasted? Like, what, three years, before the DS came out?
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It'll be interesting to see how Nntendo handles being shunned by third parties in the home console sector, yes.
 
Kusagari said:
The Vita and Wii U are both dead systems. I fully admit that. Vita isn't getting revived and people who says it is are deluded beyond belief.

Difference is I'm at least interested in the indie ports coming out on Vita because I don't PC game. Wii U has nothing except for Nintendo games that keep getting delayed.
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Little Inferno, Chasing Aurora, Toki Tori 2, Citizens of Earth, Bit Trip Presents: Runner 2, Cloudberry Kingdom, Mighty Switch Force HD, Trine 2: Director's Cut, Nano Assault Neo, The Cave, Mutant Mudds Deluxe, Rhythm Alien, Zen Pinball 2, Puddle...

If you are actually interested in Indie games.
 
This thread reminds me of when I am walking on a road and I see a bunch of buzzards picking at the carcass of a poor dead animal.

At least be a little subtle people!
 
ElTopo said:
Speaking of Japanese support, what the hell happened there ?
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Nintendo bought bayonneta 2 back to life ..

That's a significant achievement ...

Atlus is busy with 3ds games and i think the rest of the devs don't care.
Oh and capcom is releasing monster hunter.
 
v1oz said:
There's still hope with the indies. Whereas they wont be as much support from the big publishers who will use UE4 to power their games. There will be alot of support from indie devs, as they can now easily self publish their games on Nintendo platforms with minimum fuss and little cost.
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Indies are not going to save a console that is supposed to be a mainstay of the living room. If you can't play major releases that release 2-3 years from bow the Wii U might as well be scrapped.
 
bakedpony said:
I'm not sure if Nintendo games alone will be enough this time around. Note that this is Nintendo's first foray to HD game development. This is their transition gen so expect their first party output to be lower than usual.
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Yep.

They are fucked in multiple ways. Third parties are well versed in HD development at this point. Nintendo is not, and the 3rd parties don't want to develop for it because of the Pad and it's weak specs compared to PS4/Durango

Like I said earlier...the Wii U situation could ultimately be good for Nintendo in the long run (see PS3 -> PS4)
 
Some people need to look at this issue at large.

Games need to sell more than ever. Nintendo creating a platform and sheltering a fanbase that doesn't support third party games is selfish and is actually harmful for the industry.

All consoles should be selling games, not two.
 
It will be a Nintendo console for Nintendo games, as everyone should have expected.

maltrain said:
VITA has a great hardware -superior to its rival- and that can keep it on the market for many years... besides, will have full compatibility with PS4.

WiiU has an old hardware -inferior to its rivals- and that, luckily, will keep it on the market for two or three more years.

VITA will have more than 100 games this year, including big games like Soul Sacrifice, Dragon's Crown, YS: Memories of Celceta, Valhalla Knights 3, Killzone, Tearaway, both Final Fantasy X and A LOT of great indie games like Hotline Miami, Lone Survivor or Terraria. And, when PS4 come out, you'll can play most of the PS4 games on the Vita via remote play...

WiiU... what? a Monster Hunter... a Pikmin... and what else this year? And next one, with PS4 and Durango on the market?

Don't talk nonsense...
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Lol, have you ever compared Vita and 'its rival's' sales? 'Its rival' has sold about ten times more systems than the Vita. Hardware doesn't keep a system on the market, sales do.
 
I know people think the 'masses' are stupid and dumb but i knew 100% that they wouldn't let Nintendo get away with releasing a hugely over priced and hugely under powered console twice in a row.
People can cry all they want but this is all Nintendo's fault and it blows my mind that a company as experienced as them couldn't realise that the huge success of the Wii was because of the stupid gimmick motion control and it had nothing to do with people not caring about hardware and good graphics, they took away the stupid motion control and replaced it with a stupid tablet controller and look whats happened!, idiots but Nintendo deserve it.
 
maltrain said:
VITA has a great hardware -superior to its rival- and that can keep it on the market for many years... besides, will have full compatibility with PS4.

WiiU has a old hardware and, luckily, will keep on the market for two or three more years.

VITA will have more than 100 games this year, including big games like Soul Sacrifice, Dragon's Crown, YS: Memories of Celceta, Valhalla Knights 3, Killzone, Tearaway, both Final Fantasy X and A LOT of great indie games like Hotline Miami, Lone Survivor or Terraria. And, when PS4 come out, you'll can play most of the PS4 games on the Vita via remote play...

WiiU... what? a Monster Hunter... a Pikmin... and what else this year? And next one, with PS4 and Durango on the market?

Don't talk nonsense...
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Great cherry picking.
So that's ten games? Wii U has Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Mario Kart U, Wind Waker HD, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Watch_Dogs, Assassins Creed IV, Game and Wario, Rayman Legends, SMT x FE, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade 2, Super Smash Bros., DEHRDC, and more titles that have been announced for E3. Along with indie games like Cryamore and Shovel Knight, and more. eShop games like Duck Tales Remastered, as well.

Plenty of reasons to buy the Wii U and Vita... For people who were planning on buying one anyways.
 
No UE4
No Frostbite 3
No Luminous Engine
No Fox Engine
No Panta Rhei Engine

Um...
This truly deserves to get posted here:
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maltrain said:
VITA will have more than 100 games this year, including big games like Soul Sacrifice, Dragon's Crown, YS: Memories of Celceta, Valhalla Knights 3, Killzone, Tearaway, both Final Fantasy X and A LOT of great indie games like Hotline Miami, Lone Survivor or Terraria. And, when PS4 come out, you'll can play most of the PS4 games on the Vita via remote play...
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How many of those are 100 games are original titles? I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
 
I stand by what I have always said, we are just at that point fidelity wise that the WiiU can definitely do it's thing without having the latest from UE4 or Frostbite3. It really is up to the creators as to what they want to do at this point for me.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Epic makes most of their money on their engines. They want their engine on as many platforms as possible. This idea that they hate Nintendo and wouldn't want their engine on the Wii u out of spite is laughable and stupid.
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Exactly. The more platforms their engine is on the better (financially) they are.

That makes what he said and the room laughing even worse lol
 
Zombie James said:
Yes? If they could add another platform capable of running their new engine and attracting new licensees, of course they would. Selling engine licences is a big part of what Epic does. If the Wii U isn't capable - or the market isn't there to make porting it to the Wii U viable - how is that the fault of Epic?
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The engine can run on mobile platforms so no specs have nothing to do with it.It's money and some other reasons why they aren't doing it.
 
schuelma said:
This thread reminds me of when I am walking on a road and I see a bunch of buzzards picking at the carcass of a poor dead animal.

At least be a little subtle people!
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The last week has been the culmination of all the arguments about wiiu finally being answered and I say people deserve to be mad as hell....although that one post about vita...lol
 
Oersted said:
Little Inferno, Chasing Aurora, Toki Tori 2, Citizens of Earth, Bit Trip Presents: Runner 2, Cloudberry Kingdom, Mighty Switch Force HD, Trine 2: Director's Cut, Nano Assault Neo, The Cave, Mutant Mudds Deluxe, Rhythm Alien, Zen Pinball 2, Puddle...

If you are actually interested in Indie games.
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LIST WARZ
 
javac said:
This is making me excited for Nintendo E3. Bombs HAVE to be dropped. No question.
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Except that they dropped their bombs early because people were getting restless ( new xeno, wind waker hd and so on )

NOw if they still have cards on their hand , it'll be great ... ( and i hope they do )

I'll just hope we won't get another wii vitality sensor E3 .
 
Smokey said:
Yep.

Like I said earlier...the Wii U situation could ultimately be good for Nintendo in the long run (see PS3 -> PS4)
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The PS3 stayed competitive with it's peers though, and didn't have too much damage with it's core base. Nintendo has built it's reputation for this. It started with the N64 and has been a long, degrading process since. This is terrible, really.

R_thanatos said:
Except that they dropped their bombs early because people were getting restless ( new xeno, wind waker hd and so on )

NOw if they still have cards on their hand , it'll be great ... ( and i hope they do )

I'll just hope we won't get another wii vitality sensor E3 .
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They do: Retro.
 
javac said:
This is making me excited for Nintendo E3. Bombs HAVE to be dropped. No question.
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This is making me rather anxious for Nintendo E3, because I fully expect they will fail to deliver enough to right the sinking ship.

At least we'll get a new Smash Bros. out of this trainwreck.
 
maltrain said:
VITA has a great hardware -superior to its rival- and that can keep it on the market for many years... besides, will have full compatibility with PS4.

WiiU has an old hardware -inferior to its rivals- and that, luckily, will keep it on the market for two or three more years.

VITA will have more than 100 games this year, including big games like Soul Sacrifice, Dragon's Crown, YS: Memories of Celceta, Valhalla Knights 3, Killzone, Tearaway, both Final Fantasy X and A LOT of great indie games like Hotline Miami, Lone Survivor or Terraria. And, when PS4 come out, you'll can play most of the PS4 games on the Vita via remote play...

WiiU... what? a Monster Hunter... a Pikmin... and what else this year? And next one, with PS4 and Durango on the market?

Don't talk nonsense...
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now i wouldnt be surprised if vita outlived the wiiu...
 
metalslimer said:
Western support is better than japanese support
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"Better" is too vague and subjective as a descriptor, but with the way the market is going right now, Western support is certainly more important than Japanese support. Not that I'm seeing a ton of Japanese WiiU support, either. Sony's got both, Microsoft has the strongest Western third party relations, and Nintendo's... just getting fucked.


Draconian said:
It's not as if this is the first time this has happened.
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Over the last two generations? Not to this degree. GC got some big multiplats and token third party support, Wii breaking sales records forced some B-and C-tier support from third parties so they didn't have to explain why they left opportunities on the table to their shareholders.

WiiU... getting neither the big multiplats, nor is it in the plans for the future, nor are its sales compelling enough to divert any resources (not even the C-tier teams with Wii experience) to it.

It won't get jack shit from third parties aside from the yearly iterations that hit every platform.
 
Bsigg12 said:
Indies are not going to save a console that is supposed to be a mainstay of the living room. If you can't play major releases that release 2-3 years from bow the Wii U might as well be scrapped.
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From what we've heard from the indies. They are getting good sales numbers from the eshop. So there's no reason for them to abandon ship. And in the next 2-3 years the Wii U can be sustained by major AAA titles from Nintendo alone. No one buys a Nintendo console for multi plat games.
 
metalslimer said:
The last week has been the culmination of all the arguments about wiiu finally being answered and I say people deserve to be mad as hell....although that one post about vita...lol
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People here for the most part are not mad- they are gloriously, deliriously happy.
 
The previous unreal engine allowed for some seriously uninspired graphics and art design to permeate a number of games this last generation. I hope to fucking God that developers stay the fuck away from Epic's engine if it's as half as dull and homogenized as their previous effort.
 
So much for the dream of next gen downports. I can't imagine what the Wii U situation is going to look like when PS360 development wraps up in the next couple of years.
 
plantedunicorn said:
Like it wasn't already the situation but Nintendo really needs to be firing on all cylinders now. Seeing as it seems like nothing is going to be releasing anytime soon, at E3 they should announce a bunch of games for the so called hardcore. None of the expanded audience stuff. Not that there is anything wrong with going after the expanded audience but it's pretty obvious that audience has no interest in the Wii U. They can't just show off games, they need to announce concrete release dates, none of this nebulous launch window crap.

Somehow something in the back of my head tells me Nintendo will still find a way to make another misstep.

They have very little room for error if they want to get the Wii U out of the shitty but quite laughable situation.
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Easier said than done. Nintendo is having difficulties developing HD games. Nintendo was dumb enough not to be preparing for HD development for 6 years.
 
Pitmonkey said:
The PS3 stayed competitive with it's peers though, and didn't have too much damage with it's core base. Nintendo has built it's reputation for this. It started with the N64 and has been a long, degrading process since. This is terrible, really.
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It stayed competitive, but Sony was extremely arrogant. You can see it in how they are handling the PS4 that they know they fucked up with the PS3. It's price. It's architecture. Coming off the PS2 they thought they were invincible.

It's the same situation with the Wii U. Perhaps even worse since nobody wants to develop for it.
 
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