Luminous was last seen running on a PC with an Nvidia GTX 680. You can rule that engine out for the Wii U.
Kotaku: The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4
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Luminous was last seen running on a PC with an Nvidia GTX 680. You can rule that engine out for the Wii U.
GiantBreadbug
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I dunno, sniggering at someone within the same industry as you seems... childish?
Bummer about UE4, but as I was reading that exchange it sounds like what a group of stuck up kids laughing at the "outcast."
I would be embarrassed if I did something like that.
Bummer about UE4, but as I was reading that exchange it sounds like what a group of stuck up kids laughing at the "outcast."
I would be embarrassed if I did something like that.
You're pointing your finger at the wrong party. The "seriously uninspired graphics and art design" you've seen in the past generation aren't limitations of UE3. They're limitations of the teams using it. I wish people would stop perpetuating this myth that UE3 can only push out brown corridor shooters.
Smiles and Cries
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I still do not understand the desire to point and laugh at them
Do Nintendo even have the potential to create a console on that scale? I mean if Wii U failing to sell is savaging them then imagine a PS4 scale system going pear-shaped.
slightconfuse
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No one wants to party with nintendo.
Mystic_Wanderer
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The salt from posts like this.
Doc Holliday
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Everyone predicted this would happen, and they were right for once. I think Nintendo knew this would happen. What they weren't expecting is the casual exodus. They have completely squandered the 1 year head start.
They had an unbelievable opportunity! The HD twins were getting old, The Wii was dead so no need to support it, tons of cash, 720/ps4 a year away, and a rabid fan base waiting for HD versions of their favorite franchises. Instead we get the most half assed system launch I've seen in a long time.
They had an unbelievable opportunity! The HD twins were getting old, The Wii was dead so no need to support it, tons of cash, 720/ps4 a year away, and a rabid fan base waiting for HD versions of their favorite franchises. Instead we get the most half assed system launch I've seen in a long time.
don't you want to be on the winning team
The Wii's success was great market research combined with the best all around marketing effort since the launch of the Model T. Everybody and their mother had to have one, because Nintendo changed the idea of what the modern video game was to the general public. Don't let anybody allow you to believe that the Wii's success was an accident.
A Black Falcon
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That would require Epic to actually care about supporting Nintendo platforms decently, which they obviously don't. And Nintendo apparently doesn't care enough to do anything about it. Too bad, they should.
Shadow Hog
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First off, they have a remarkable amount of money behind them, and the Wii U is still technically profitable (so long as everyone buys at least one game, which is likely given that's kind of the main point of a games console), so I sincerely doubt they will never release a console again.
Second off, if they have any sense, they won't wait five-to-six years to make another console.
Dave Meltzer
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I think I explained my argument pretty well. By most accounts, it's a game which will have a high attach rate. Like a Smash Bros, or a Zelda, or a Mario. But Gamecube and N64 also had those games and they didn't send the system up to new heights. They sold very well to the already established audience. The question, which I'm not answering but merely proposing, is whether or not Mario Kart is a game people will pay hundreds of dollars to play, as opposed to something like Wii Fit/Sports and Brain Training, which were the kind of games that you can directly link to selling systems.
metalslimer
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What does this have to do with nintendo? This is just sad.... The bitterness from hardcore fans i sad. Get over it, nintendo fucked up hard
That's because you're not a bad person. Don't mull over it.
you wonder why Nintendo didn't just go for Wii 2
Psycho_Mantis
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Xenoblade hit in Japan in 2010 am I right? And it was first revealed at e3 2009 as Monado, and they only showed primitive gameplay.
I would be surprised if X was not atleast a 2014 title.
It's interesting how many people don't understand this.
I don't know if Nintendo even has a chance at E3 now when a room full of devs laugh at your console. Dang! Nintendo done goofed. I'm a big fan of the Wii U. I like the idea and concept behind it, but Nintendo should have dropped backwards compatibility and beefed up the hardware to be comparable with the next Xbox at least.
I mean, I will still be happy getting some amazing Nintendo games this gen (you know they're coming), but it's definitely a good thing that I also plan on getting a PS4 and building a PC. There really is no reason to be a Nintendo only gamer right now...
I mean, I will still be happy getting some amazing Nintendo games this gen (you know they're coming), but it's definitely a good thing that I also plan on getting a PS4 and building a PC. There really is no reason to be a Nintendo only gamer right now...
Mystic_Wanderer
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What someone said earlier is true - if they released two years earlier, in 2010 (assuming they could get HD games out, something proving very problematic for them now), the Wii U is likely a smash success.
Instead, they release bad (relatively speaking to next gen) hardware with no real selling points to the general public, and let the Wii name atrophy to nothing the past couple years.
Comments like this make it seriously hard to discuss anything here at all. No point arguing when everything has to be about "salt" and "crow". People probably expect me to eat crow just for owning a Wii U.
Boss Man
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I find it kind of funny that the people who troll the machine seem a whole lot more serious about it than people who own it. Like, Vita owners seem to have fully accepted that it's not selling and aren't super bothered by it or anything. So the trolling isn't even done to provoke a reaction, it's total damage control.
Seriously though Vita probably is in a worse position still. Wii U will get its first party games. Vita's most likely ticket to relevance is if Remote Play fleshes out the way Sony has been talking about it.
should have developed for the wii! that would have saved all these companies from destruction!
It's not powerful enough to run it. Of course it won't have it. Nintendo will still make good games for the system they just won't have incredible graphics. I'm ok with that. Currently playing monster hunter and it doesn't look great but the art direction is incredible and the game is stunning.
I don't see how it's a salty post. the cost of development for AAA games are rising, and there is no guarantee that these new systems will sell like hotcakes. Especially from the first year of sales, I can see them relying on the sales of 360/ps3 version to make up for the low sales of the new.
plantedunicorn
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Its looking like it's already backfired. Are there any big Japanese companies that are supporting the Wii U right now? Honest question. The only one I can think of is Capcom.
Square is supporting it with a 2 year old port. Konami is not putting MGS V on the console.
Father_Brain
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Indie games won't sell hardware to any significant degree, and the odds of the platform eventually getting respectable Japanese third-party support get lower every week that goes by without announcements, so I'm not at all convinced that it's too early.
I didn't give it a lot of thought but just saying, if Nintendo properly planned things out, 2010 would've been the perfect time to release something like the Wii U.
- That was pretty much mid-cycle, so they'd have the most powerful console for half the generation
- 2010 is around the time Wii sales started plummeting I think, this could've maybe kept their momentum going
- The tablet controller probably would've been a bigger deal back then when the iPad was still relatively new
- Then they could've released a successor in 2014 (four year lifecycle again) that fared better against PS4/Durango
TwEE-N-Toast
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Smiles and Cries
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JordanN
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That's not the question I can answer nor should I anyway.
I'm just trying to think of the best interest for third parties and Nintendo should be doing everything in their power to help them, not oppose them.
They don't expect anything self-initiated.
AstroNut325
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*Facepalm*
Really?
The Wii U catches up to the PS360 in terms of power and slightly excels past them as well. But we always hear people blaming PS360 hardware for soooo many studio closures (even though hardware played almost a non-existant role in most of them). Now... with a slightly more powerful console... Nintendo is going to rescue the industry??????? REALLY???
I guess the idea is these games have been exposed to more people now. A lot of people knew about these games in the GameCube days but weren't exposed to the crack like nature of them. Now around 30 million people played it on Wii I'm guessing it's made some new friends.
Mystic_Wanderer
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Like that, and not what I quoted? Okay, Kimosabe.
Phoenician_Viking
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This is the reason of why most third party developers and publishers don´t support Nintendo platforms.
Joe Molotov
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If I went to Cannes and saw Uwe Boll, I'd probably laugh at him too.
That's the spirit. If Nintendo can't win, no one can. Let's take this bitch down.
surprise the wiiu is also a HD system! more cost to develop for it!
Despite some vague comment from Mark Rein in the past, I don't see how this comes as a surprise to anyone. Spoiler alert, whatever next big engine other major third parties are creating similarly won't run on Wii U.
Since the N64 days, I basically expect shitty third party support with my Nintendo console but the major difference here is Nintendo isn't even supporting the damn thing properly. Two games since launch? That's embarrassing.
Since the N64 days, I basically expect shitty third party support with my Nintendo console but the major difference here is Nintendo isn't even supporting the damn thing properly. Two games since launch? That's embarrassing.
Haunted
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Sony firing Kutaragi and making Cerny the lead system architect of the PS4 (thus taking control away from the Japanese arm) was the smartest fucking move they could've done.
Nintendo (and quite a few other Japanese developers) on the other hand are reacting to the rise of Western development by retreating back to their own domestic territory, confining themselves to niche status and future irrelevance.
metalslimer
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What does this have to do with supporting wiiu. The system is still doing abysmal. Bringin it up is just being salty
One day theyll realize that hoping the industry crashes because nintendo fucked up is wrong
eddfromtheriver
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Only this time there's no "gimmick" to hook the masses...
It's Coolwhip
mentalfloss
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From what they've showed, I'm still not sold on next gen. The concept and functionality of the Wii U gamepad is way more appealing at this point.
More like "AAA next gen console games that need to ship at least 5 million copies to break even."
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