Kotaku: The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4
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Calm down, step outside for a while. Nobody is actively destroying Nintendo, not even Nintendo.
Mystic_Wanderer
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I don't understand the console warrior mentality.
I own a Vita. It's doing terribly I can point out its flaws, laugh at it, etc.
Some people take this stuff too seriously. I'm sure Wii U will be fine in the end anyway.
No need for the insults being cast by those so upset at the Wii U's current position in here.
No UE4 =/= failure.
I own a Vita. It's doing terribly I can point out its flaws, laugh at it, etc.
Some people take this stuff too seriously. I'm sure Wii U will be fine in the end anyway.
No need for the insults being cast by those so upset at the Wii U's current position in here.
No UE4 =/= failure.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Wii skipped U
Mr_Antimatter
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I think it's way to early to declare it dead, seeing as they turned around the 3ds, but unless Sony or Ms makes a massive mistake, I don't see it being anything else then a gamecube in terms of sales.
Having epic literally laugh at our console is not a good thing, given how many games will use UE4.
I think nintendo literally bet the farm that the tablet novelty would propel them to wii like sales, and were not prepared for the public to give it a giant 'meh'.
Having epic literally laugh at our console is not a good thing, given how many games will use UE4.
I think nintendo literally bet the farm that the tablet novelty would propel them to wii like sales, and were not prepared for the public to give it a giant 'meh'.
Boss Man
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Well, he did call a room full of (probably very important) third party developers manchildren.
Windom Earle
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Shocking news.
polyh3dron
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Majority of 3rd parties use UE to make their games, EA is using Frostbite mostly. If those 2 engines don't support Wii U, it'll be too much of a task for said 3rd parties to release Wii U games and they will be much more likely to not bother releasing games for it.
It doesn't mean Nintendo won't be releasing games for it, but is sure as hell doesn't bode well for 3rd party support.
metalslimer
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Yeah we get it. Everyone is doomed.
Psycho_Mantis
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I know this may seem pretty crazy and out there but how about they make a system that is not a generation behind in specs and third party friendly.
Dave Meltzer
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Maybe if Nintendo stopped designing hardware nobody wants to make games for, this wouldn't be such an issue.
JordanN
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DragonSworne can be sarcastic at times so I wouldn't view it as serious (I hope).
SturokBGD
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Um... that was a term of endearment...
I'm not salty at all, but apparently I've rustled some console warrior feathers.
Not necessarily. They could do what they did with the Wii and the DS and predict and realize a gaming vision different from that of their peers that catches on in the mainstream and explodes. Then they can be consistently profitable regardless of who supports them.
Otherwise, yeah, they should go third party.
I'll be buying Watch Dogs on Wii U. Time will tell if there is a big enough market for core games on Wii U (I think there will be, just a smaller one that PS/XB of course)
What I meant is that it can run on Wii U. Epic might not bring it but I guarantee that if it can run on a mobile phone, Wii U could run it.
shinobi602
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Well, they do have over $10 billion in cash reserves, so yes, I imagine they're more than prepared for this. According to Pachter, they have enough cash to last them decades even on the course they're on now.
Green Biker Dude
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how big is this thread? how delusional are the wii u owners/nintendo fans?
Manchildren is a term that fits that behaviour perfectly though. It's not exactly acting like professionals.
I don't see a room of app developers laugh at Blackberries struggle for example, but maybe I'm wrong.
Brainiac 8
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The lack of professionalism in this industry is staggering.
Exactly. I have a Vita, surprising lots of great games I love but I can laugh at the sales failure. I own a WiiU and I realize it's dead already for mostly anything but 1st party. No big deal, would have bought anyway and can laugh at it.
metalslimer
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Yeah that was more of how big will the market be sort of question.
Give me a break. They arent businessman and dont ow Nintendo a thing, well except Rein but his company is super profitable and that wasnt from nintendo.
I know. I'm just having fun.
Freezie KO
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It's important to note that all of the industry people laughing don't represent the 10 people that attended the Miiverse Conference at GDC nor any of Nintendo's janitorial staff, who I hear get wonderful benefits.
Dave Meltzer
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Nintendo should really go third party and find partnerships with content providers while keeping ownership of their brands.
As soon as Iwata is replaced, that move is inevitable. Nintendo's existence as a hardware manufacturer is coming to an end. There is simply no need for it anymore.
As soon as Iwata is replaced, that move is inevitable. Nintendo's existence as a hardware manufacturer is coming to an end. There is simply no need for it anymore.
Hush that sensible and rational line of thought!
Smiles and Cries
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right, you guys have no clue how stupid this all sounds to someone like me when I see this hobby turn into fanboy pissing contest and then see developers encourage macho brinkmanship in something that really only boils down to what? GAMES
it is so much easer to enjoy games when I ignore the core's definition of what I've been playing the past 5 months
I don't really see this as death of Nintendo as much as I see myself at 40 growing tired of what is going on right now in this thread among gamers who are happy to see other gamers get and play less games
shinobi602
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Ermm...and? He'll retire with a boatload of cash.
Mr. MondayNight
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I agree this screams a lack of professionalism more than anything but that's just me.
JordanN
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I suggested in another thread Nintendo should partner up with Microsoft.
Microsoft's lack of first party but ability to push out hardware could see benefits to both parties.
Crimson_Gold
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In what way could they retaliate? If you mean to attempt to develop higher quality titles than the companies that are spurning Nintendo, that would be the result of opinion and only benefit Nintendo console owners.
Nintendo likely won't actively campaign against these companies. That would only lead to further ridicule and abandonment.
Nintendo can continue the course or change its strategy. Nintendo has the money to buy studios. Maybe it should. I just don't think retaliation is the best way to remedy this situation.
yeah that was the problem. the wii u should have been a refinement of the wii. they would have run into issues with development regardless, but they also wouldn't have put out a device they themselves were confused about. the same is true of the 3ds.
Finally a bit of truth! Yeah everyone's doomed, if you didn't get the memo already i'll have them resend it to you.
Hero of Legend
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Man, there's too much Rein on Nintendo's parade. 
DragonSworne
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Sure they are. It seems pretty clear from day 1 of Wii. These companies do not view Nintendo as a legitimate hardware company and would much rather see them gone then make games for them.
It's in Nintendo best interest to do something about it, I could care less personally since I will be getting the PS4.
polyh3dron
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ice cold
SniperHunter
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This isn't surprising, Iwata doesn't care about graphics.
Lol, I think the new RIP in peace meme is going to be the best takeaway from this thread.
Ouuuch.
Ouuuch.
Boss Man
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I disagree. Their third choice involves acting more like a 3rd party publisher though, in that they need to actually start releasing all of the potential software that they're sitting on. They've been happy to drop Wii Fit, Wii Sports type titles without doing hardly any work on the content that their core crowd is clamoring for. I don't think people were every truly happy with a proper Mario or Zelda every few years and nothing else. They convinced themselves that it was OK when they owned a Wii, but the truth is that they don't want to be tricked back into that situation.
New?
Man that's gotta sting. It's sad that we've come to a point where developers openly laugh at the Wii U. That doesn't seem professional. But at the same time, it's sad what situation Nintendo cornered themselves in.
It's a shame, at least people who enjoy Nintendo games are covered, and know the good ones are coming. I've been a primarily Nintendo gamer most of my life, and this gen i used a PC for my gaming, and Nintendo handhelds. Even if i haven't played most of their games lately, my affinity lies with them.
Sadly, I'm left wondering if they can carry the load by themselves anymore, and the answer is most likely 'no', as evidenced by the late years of the Wii.
I too think there should be some changes at Nintendo, so long as they don't lose what makes them unique.
It's sad that we went from this to what's happening here.
It's a shame, at least people who enjoy Nintendo games are covered, and know the good ones are coming. I've been a primarily Nintendo gamer most of my life, and this gen i used a PC for my gaming, and Nintendo handhelds. Even if i haven't played most of their games lately, my affinity lies with them.
Sadly, I'm left wondering if they can carry the load by themselves anymore, and the answer is most likely 'no', as evidenced by the late years of the Wii.
I too think there should be some changes at Nintendo, so long as they don't lose what makes them unique.
It's sad that we went from this to what's happening here.
Uno Venova
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Green Biker Dude
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no, coolwhip, you are the manchild. you are the one clinging onto a company that no longer satisfies your gaming needs because of nostalgia
shinobi602
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This was...this was before everyone started entering the room, right?
metalslimer
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Oh god come on. They have billions to spend and arent going anywhere. This thread is getting out of hand at this point
Apparently only 10 people showed up
ViewtifulJC
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Would you make a thread about this turnout?
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