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Beats said:
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Amazing
 
I can't believe people are still hating on Morrigan. ChrisG has proven that it takes a special individual to take control of Morrigan. All haters can keep on hating until someone finds her kryptonite.
 
Internet went out a while ago, but I managed to catch the GFs.

Good stuff
ismk said:
I can't believe people are still hating on Morrigan. ChrisG has proven that it takes a special individual to take control of Morrigan. All haters can keep on hating until someone finds her kryptonite.
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They they'll start hating on the Kryptonite. :P
 
Azure J said:
It's still hype to me honestly. The thing that kills the hype is no innovation from the challengers. Just the same horizontal-teleport, RTSD HARDER SON bull and nothing to challenge her mobility and safety in the air.
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I watch Chris G's movement and hit confirmations with Morrigan and that gets me hype. I never have a problem watching Chris G matches.
 
Dahbomb said:
Hahaha.... Captain America does not have godly rushdown that he can stay on Morrigan after the first 5 seconds or after IM is on cooldown.

Never letting Morrigan "establish" herself is a poor answer to her strategy. 9/10 she will establish her game, if there is no answer to her while she has established her game outside of hailmary options there is a big problem. Even Wolverine vs Morrigan is a gamble that is not in favor of Wolverine thanks to Missiles cluttering up hit confirms.
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He has a safe charge attack that destroys projectiles - that's even better than Wolverine pressure.

Never letting Morrigan establish herself is the only answer to the strategy aside from stuff like Spell of Vishanti XFC. Morrigan is more terrifying than Dormammu backed by Hidden Missiles with 2D1C stocked when she's established.

Even so, the level of play is just not up to ChrisG's level. Even the best counterpick team won't matter until people play as well as him.
 
GuardianE said:
I watch Chris G's movement and hit confirmations with Morrigan and that gets me hype. I never have a problem watching Chris G matches.
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Seriously, I look at Chris G' play and it's such a joy to watch because of how absolutely clean and well thought out each decision is, minus the instances where you can clearly see the troll. I look at everyone else and it looks like they gave up before the match start, only going through the motions because "hey this is my team, can't change now" or "oh man it's Chris G" or (back in the day) "ah well, patch is coming".
 
Azure J said:
Everyone who wants to seriously play this game from now forward needs to build one team that has a guaranteed counter to one aspect of Morrigan/Doom/X. THIS is the barometer of the current metagame period. Everyone also has to PICK SOME FUCKING ANTI AIRS, GODDAMN.
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I was saying this a year ago but people are stupid
 
Karsticles said:
He has a safe charge attack that destroys projectiles - that's even better than Wolverine pressure.

Never letting Morrigan establish herself is the only answer to the strategy aside from stuff like Spell of Vishanti XFC. Morrigan is more terrifying than Dormammu backed by Hidden Missiles with 2D1C stocked when she's established.

Even so, the level of play is just not up to ChrisG's level. Even the best counterpick team won't matter until people play as well as him.
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Charging Star is not safe without assist (which you can't call during AV) and does nothing when she's in mid air shooting fireballs at your head. It's a yolo strategy, Frutsy tried this against ChrisG and he got bopped bad.

SoV XFC is also yolo especially since you have one chance.

My answer to this Morrigan stuff is Thor backed up by a good assist that either clears missiles (Mystic Ray), makes Morrigan block for a second (Vajra) or Jam Session. You can tag her with Mighty Strike in the air and go into Tornado if missiles are coming to absorb then XF if needed. He also has the health to do this numerous times.

The problem with this strategy is when Thor gets rushed down by Morrigan backed with Missiles. He has no good defensive move and will easily get opened up. Morrigan throwing fireballs in your face while making you block shell kicks and missiles is oppressive as hell, Thor can't deal with that and neither can most characters.
 
QisTopTier said:
How to balance morrigan. Unflying no longer lets you block afterwards.
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LOL, no. That's as bad as your opinions on Arthur pre-Vanilla.

Dahbomb said:
Charging Star is not safe without assist (which you can't call during AV) and does nothing when she's in mid air shooting fireballs at your head. It's a yolo strategy, Frutsy tried this against ChrisG and he got bopped bad.
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How is ChrisG getting the AV off?

Frutsy used Captain America backed by MODOK, not Unibeam.

It's not a YOLO strategy, it's a consistent threat that ChrisG has to deal with.
 
Dahbomb said:
Hahaha.... Captain America does not have godly rushdown that he can stay on Morrigan after the first 5 seconds or after IM is on cooldown.

Never letting Morrigan "establish" herself is a poor answer to her strategy. 9/10 she will establish her game, if there is no answer to her while she has established her game outside of hailmary options there is a big problem. Even Wolverine vs Morrigan is a gamble that is not in favor of Wolverine thanks to Missiles cluttering up hit confirms.

Yolo strategies will not always work. They aren't solid or reliable that's why they are yolo strategies.
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A lot of stuff in Marvel has that problem, where the best way to stop a strategy/set-up is to not even let it be started. It's just to what degree.
 
QisTopTier said:
How to balance morrigan. Unflying no longer lets you block afterwards.
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How to balance morrigan: remove the Hidden Missiles assist from the game.

There were tons of times when morrigan had her shit punished, only for doom missiles to mess everything up and turn it back around in ChrisG's favor.
 
Morrigan doesn't deserve to get nerfed really. It's Doom. He's the only reason why Morrigan (and almost every fucking Marvel team) gets away with murder.

Nerf Doom. Nerf him hard.
 
It'll continue to work as long as people just keep super jumping with no plan. Missiles to the face. Buster punishing Doom was working, but he didn't keep it up. And when he picked up Doom, he decided he would just not call him. And with Morrigan, he chooses not to activate the twin for some reason.

GuardianE said:
Morrigan doesn't deserve to get nerfed really. It's Doom. He's the only reason why Morrigan (and almost every fucking Marvel team) gets away with murder.

Nerf Doom. Nerf him hard.
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Every time she was getting combo'd - HIDDEN MISSILES to blow it up. He should have just snapped her out, avoided the missiles and forced Chris to block the Zero mixup.
 
DEATH™;52209255 said:
Guys, stop talking about what to patch, you don't even know if a patch is coming...
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People talk about balance changes for this game like they talk about what celebrity chicks are the hottest. It's not about getting it, it's about the fantasy.

Gentleman Jack said:
How to balance morrigan: remove the Hidden Missiles assist from the game.

There were tons of times when morrigan had her shit punished, only for doom missiles to mess everything up and turn it back around in ChrisG's favor.
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An enlightened opinion. There are no top Morrigans that don't use Hidden Missiles. I'd even go so far to say that if Hidden Missiles weren't in the game, Morrigan could use some more buffs. Real. Talk.
 
Dahbomb said:
Hahaha.... Captain America does not have godly rushdown that he can stay on Morrigan after the first 5 seconds or after IM is on cooldown.

Never letting Morrigan "establish" herself is a poor answer to her strategy. 9/10 she will establish her game, if there is no answer to her while she has established her game outside of hailmary options there is a big problem. Even Wolverine vs Morrigan is a gamble that is not in favor of Wolverine thanks to Missiles cluttering up hit confirms.

Yolo strategies will not always work. They aren't solid or reliable that's why they are yolo strategies.
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EXACTLY.

You need to be able to fight her within her game plan. You have to assume the moment you step up to play that she will have Astral, you can't hit Doom missiles with any of your normals and the anchor is a nut.
 
Until Nerdjosh or JRosas wins a major with morridoom, she's fine.

Chris was good back when he played hawkeye and wesker and firebrand teams, it doesn't make sense to nerf a character that only one person wins tournaments with.
 
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