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[Flatline]

Well, to be fair:

He clearly has a good reason for not reporting on this, at all. Clearly he doesn't want to create a narrative about always online DRM.

Jesus Christ, Gies is such a ridiculous shill.

 

[Oblivion]

I just made a batch of popcorn and opened a new bottle of lube.

LET'S KEEP THIS PARTY GOING!

 

[Coen]

Well, to be fair:

He clearly has a good reason for not reporting on this, at all. Clearly he doesn't want to create a narrative about always online DRM.

You've got to be kidding me...
Nobody told that guy to stop insulting his audience after that last ordeal? Maybe that's what Polygon pressed reset on: instead of pleasing an audience, they're finding new ideas to chase them away.

 

[jediyoshi]

Well, to be fair:

He clearly has a good reason for not reporting on this, at all. Clearly he doesn't want to create a narrative about always online DRM.

The only narrative I care for right now is hoping that gies can retake his throne on the twitter clown stage

 

[majik13]

no way they will actually go through with this...they will have to change it or disable always online right before launch or soon after...this cant be happening. They cant be this stupid.

 

[Blue Ninja]

Well Microsoft, we had a good run together.

 

[brandonh83]

It's 5:30 am, sweet Jesus look at the time..

I'm so sleepy. But I'm not that sleepy. I feel like I'm going to miss something.

 

[AznSniper]

Yes, let's ignore him being lead designer on God of War II and III.

Although his resume has taken a downturn since 2008.

He still worked under creative directors during the time.

 

[kevcampbell]

whoever is next to post an article, this deal with it image needs to be used instead haha

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Sony will take him back..

Why? He's doing a better job for them where he is.

 

[slider]

I would think that being able to rationalize one's thoughts and having a small measure of analytical ability is a part of anyone's job, let alone that of a position as powerful as that which he is in.

Those analogies he made were utterly terrible and shows a complete lack of understanding of the issue on hand.

Absolutely agree on the second part.

But I guess his point of view, given he works for a company potentially implementing these strategies, is very different to lots (and lots) of other folk.

Where he failed is opening his trap and that, arguably, is something different to his core job (which I'm not exactly clear on anyway!).

Cheers.

 

[pswii60]

This has fail written all over it.

Microsoft's first response to this fiasco . . . "I don't know that guy."

WOW

Again, no. That's Aaron Greenberg's response. I work for a company and I say a lot of things. My views don't necessarily reflect the company's official stance or view on any issue.

It seems the Internet doesn't get this, hence why I'd be banning all my employees from using Twitter unless for PR reasons (eg Major Nelson).

 

[RetroStu]

That's cause he knows him as Sweet Billy.

 

[unbias]

Yes, let's ignore him being lead designer on God of War II and III.

Although his resume has taken a downturn since 2008.

Lead designer of God of War II was Cory Barlog... I think you may be confusing this guy with Adam Puhl?

 

[Oblivion]

Why? He's doing a better job for them where he is.

Yeah, but the problem is he won't be having a job for much longer.

 

[Reiko]

This is unreal.

That Aaron Greenberg post was ICE COLD.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

....

Man the gif responses in this thread are classic

 

[brandonh83]

Why? He's doing a better job for them where he is.

Holy crap!!

 

[nelsonroyale]

I think people are being a little unfair to this guy...sure his comments were rather ill advised, but people are turning him into a sacrificial chicken on here.

 

[pswii60]

Lead designer of God of War II was Cory Barlog... I think you may be confusing this guy with Adam Puhl?

No, I was reading his LinkedIn profile.

 

[Oblivion]

Lead designer of God of War II was Cory Barlog... I think you may be confusing this guy with Adam Puhl?

Nein, Barlog was the director for GoW2.

 

[Cha]

What a total prick!

Guess this does all but confirm it. Dang!

Edit: Sorry if already posted but this is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cW28VSmXnCo

Amazing reaction. Thought this part was especially gif worthy. <linked cos a looping f**k you gif might offend some.

This thread is awesome!

 

[JCreasy]

no way they will actually go through with this...they will have to change it or disable always online right before launch or soon after...this cant be happening. They cant be this stupid.

Here's my thing though . . . if they did do this with the understanding that they secure a bunch of 3rd party exclusives, how do they go about dissolving those agreements if they need to back out?

Was this the big strategy to topple Sony for next gen? Pander to big publishers?

 

[Ouren]

This has fail written all over it.

Microsoft's first response to this fiasco . . . "I don't know that guy."

WOW

 

[LukeTim]

Whilst I have all of my current gen consoles online all the time anyway, I despise anybody who would not give me the choice of taking it, my own console, offline.

If the next Xbox is online only, I'm not getting it.

 

[Twilight Gap]

+1 for MJ gif

<still awake

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Why? He's doing a better job for them where he is.

Holy. Fuck.

 

[slider]

Again, no. That's Aaron Greenberg's response. I work for a company and I say a lot of things. My views don't necessarily reflect the company's official stance or view on any issue.

Heh, I'm sure Sweet Billy agrees.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Oh wow,

http://www.quickmeme.com/Always-Online-Adam-Orth/popular/1/?upcoming

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/05/microsoft-creative-director-on-always-online-deal-with-it

Adam Orth's tweets are now protected, but a poster on NeoGAF saved them for prosperity:

Goddamnit game journos, the word is "posterity", not "prosperity". "Posterity" means "future generations", which is the metaphor that fits.

That earlier thread was right. English majors are indeed overqualified for game journalist jobs.

 

[Coen]

I think people are being a little unfair to this guy...sure his comments were rather ill advised, but people are turning him into a sacrificial chicken on here.

He did that to himself.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Oh AG.

I'll cry for the guy later, being a dick on Twitter when your affiliated with a major company is just silly. He should have known the score.

 

[Pug]

I think people are being a little unfair to this guy...sure his comments were rather ill advised, but people are turning him into a sacrificial chicken on here.

It's the big problem with social media, when the snowball gets rolling you're in trouble.

 

[unbias]

Nein, Barlog was the director for GoW2.

http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=49265&tab=credits

GoW 2 Credits^

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1199781/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

GoW 3 Credits^


Only Adam I can see be confused with this guy is Puhl.

 

[kevcampbell]

Oh wow,

http://www.quickmeme.com/Always-Online-Adam-Orth/popular/1/?upcoming

 

[jorma]

For all the apologists out there, this guy does deserve to be fired. Even if you disregard the point that he singlehandedly pissed off a ton of paying customers as well as effectively blew the lid on a key feature of his company's unannounced product, there is also the fact that he made those terribly stupid analogies which exposes his complete lack of ability to think critically and rationally. Why should someone so incompetent deserve to be in the position he is in?

I think they should fire the person in charge who thought that always online was a good fucking idea. As a paying customer why would you be pissed off at the messenger rather than the actual content of the message?

 

[Flatline]

Goddamnit game journos, the word is "posterity", not "prosperity". "Posterity" means "future generations", which is the metaphor that fits.

That earlier thread was right. English majors are indeed overqualified for game journalist jobs.

Maybe IGN thinks that the poster was saving them to get rich.

 

[pswii60]

nvm

 

[Oblivion]

Oh wow,

http://www.quickmeme.com/Always-Online-Adam-Orth/popular/1/?upcoming

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tpoat/

 

[pswii60]

http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=49265&tab=credits

GoW 2 Credits^

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1199781/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

GoW 3 Credits^


Only Adam I can see be confused with this guy is Puhl.

AGAIN, it's on his bloody LinkedIn profile!!!
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

Lead Designer
Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC
August 2005 &#8211; February 2008 (2 years 7 months)Santa Monica
Responsible for all aspects of game design across multiple internal and external PlayStation titles as well as the creation of new IP for the studio. Reported directly to David Jaffe.

God of War III
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Twisted Metal Head: On Extra Twisted Edition
God of War II
Calling All Cars!
Heartland [Cancelled]

The guy is clearly a liar then according to those credits

The plot thickens

 

[Liberty4all]

Oh wow,

http://www.quickmeme.com/Always-Online-Adam-Orth/popular/1/?upcoming

I called it so hard a few pages back. It's rare you get to witness the birth of an Internet meme. Bask in the glory baaaassskkkkkkkkk

 

[Vomiaouaf]

AGAIN, it's on his bloody LinkedIn profile!!! I'm not confusing anyone with anyone, I'm just reading what it says - you can too...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

The guy is clearly a liar then according to those credits

Linkedin has absolutely no policy of coercing users to truthful profiles. If someone else claims to have your job (which happened to me), you can contact LinkedIn's help center for weeks only to have them tell you "deal with it".

 

[Coen]

You'd have to wonder what kind of 3rd party exclusivity we're talking about here, to make such a drastic decision. Microsoft had to know they'd be getting a lot of heat for this.

 

[Kaako]

AGAIN, it's on his bloody LinkedIn profile!!! I'm not confusing anyone with anyone, I'm just reading what it says - you can too...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

The guy is clearly a liar then according to those credits

It would be the icing on the cake if he ended up lying on his LinkedIn profile. You know detective-GAF is going in hard on this one.

 

[LuuKyK]

Wtf? Plot thickens AGAIN?

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tpoat/

lol

 

[AznSniper]

Here's an unprivate link into Adam Orth's twitter so we can all see if he decides to tweet anything else when he wakes up or if it would be completely shut down by then.

http://favstar.fm/users/adam_orth/recent

 

[JCreasy]

Again, no. That's Aaron Greenberg's response. I work for a company and I say a lot of things. My views don't necessarily reflect the company's official stance or view on any issue.

It seems the Internet doesn't get this, hence why I'd be banning all my employees from using Twitter unless for PR reasons (eg Major Nelson).

In the connected world we live in today, if you tout who you work for on your profile, guess what - you're representing the brand from that profile.

It may not be the PR response, but that communication portal is an extension of the brand. Also, he chose to respond to a Microsoft issue in the context of being an employee. I'm sorry, the line is blurred in this day and age. He should've held comment until a proper response could be coordinated.

 

[unbias]

AGAIN, it's on his bloody LinkedIn profile!!! I'm not confusing anyone with anyone, I'm just reading what it says - you can too...
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

The guy is clearly a liar then according to those credits

I was aware you were going by linkedin, I was just pointing out the actual credits. However reading the linkedin, he worded it in a way that is fairly non specific.

 

[Oblivion]

http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=49265&tab=credits

GoW 2 Credits^

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1199781/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

GoW 3 Credits^


Only Adam I can see be confused with this guy is Puhl.

Oh, I wasn't defending Orth, I was just saying Barlog was the director on GoW2.

 

[pswii60]

Linkedin has absolutely no policy of coercing users to truthful profiles. If someone else claims to have your job (which happened to me), you can contact LinkedIn's help center for weeks only to have them tell you "deal with it".

Yes, but that's my point. The guy is full of shit even on LinkedIn!