Fighting Games Weekly | April 1-7 | And after 0-3, he has risen
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Why is Sean below Dan?
Why is Sakura that high?
I think Rose should go up a tier.
Oni should be Tier 1.
Final Bison is a dumb character.
Ever since someone joked about Extra Good Ryu I've been dying for it to become realMake it like an ascended Super Saiyan state.
Wouldn't that be Ryu trained by Oro?
Professor Beef
Banned
I honestly don't know much about the Alpha characters or storyline aside from the main characters (Ryu/Bison/Sagat).
Karsticles
Member
Extra Good Ryu wouldn't make sense, since the battle is about the desire to kill vs. controlling that desire. It's The Force all over again. It's not really about good vs. evil, but passion vs. temperance. Oni and Evil Ryu are their corresponding characters given in to their passion for violence. Otherwise Ryu is just Ryu.Ever since someone joked about Extra Good Ryu I've been dying for it to become real
Bobby Roberts
Banned
All this talk is making me wish I knew how to play Oro, like, in the slightest.
I might as well try picking him up. Lord knows my Ken is still scrub-tier at best and i've been mashing with that dude since 2001.
maybe all of Extra Good Ryu's attacks just comfort the opposing fighter to the point they just lay down and nap.
I might as well try picking him up. Lord knows my Ken is still scrub-tier at best and i've been mashing with that dude since 2001.
maybe all of Extra Good Ryu's attacks just comfort the opposing fighter to the point they just lay down and nap.
Professor Beef
Banned
There is, but it's also harder to gauge because everyone is constantly in flux thanks to the different sagas.
Karsticles
Member
That's not Extra Good, that's Extra Wussy. Good things involve violence.
Reminds me of a terrible film I saw called "A Serious Man". I do not recommend it to anyone, it was terrible.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'm..
... I'm trying real hard to be Extra Good Ryu right now, Ringo. I'm trying reaaaalll hard...
Karsticles
Member
There was nothing good about it. Worse than FFVIII (lol).
It's a shame that something like that can parade around as having "depth" in cinema today. It was actually loaned to me by a film student because she loved it. I told her that my wife and I felt we were owed an apology.
I think I've had enough emasculated-man-as-comedy to last me an eternity.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Holy smokes batman. Hmm.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Maybe the worst Coen movie. If you measured my brain patterns while I was sitting in that theater, you'd think I was watching paint dry, or perhaps pre-2013 SFxT XBL Rolento mirrors
Passive Assassin
Member
Gah. Got back from my local monthly. 1-2. I'm fraaaaaaay.
He did it for the greater good and Wolverine is never against killing (that's Batman who has the moral code). Besides Magneto was basically doing what the Nazis were so it was obvious that he had lost his way somewhere along the line. It was poetic that Wolverine finishes off because previoisly Magneto had stripped him off his Adamantium and that ended up biting him in ass.
Slamtastic
Member
shadow can stop time though
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
He's also vermin.
That SF tier reminded me of the Marvel 3 tier. SF characters are low ass tier compared to the top class characters (Shuma, Dorm, Strange, Thor, Phoenix etc).
But how will he kill Vegeta?
He couldn't even body sonic the hedgehog
toddhunter
Member
Extra Good Ryu doesn't need to fight. He finds another way to win.
As such he doesn't even have a move list. Maybe he can be added to Skullgirls?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't like how Thor is as strong as/stronger than The Hulk. Cause then what the fuck is the point of The Hulk?
Hulk technically has no limit to his strength and at a certain level would out power even Thor. If he's mad enough.... another poorly written character who develops just enough rage to gain just enough power to beat stuff.
Tizoc
Member
Funny you ask that: When Stan Lee created the Hulk he wanted to create a character that is strong enough to defeat Thor/be his equal.
BaroqueSampson
Member
Since I'm pretty much convinced that SFV needs (to add diversity in match ups) and will probably have some sort of streamlined gem system that isn't idiotically implemented, I think it'd be cool if you could pick your character and then a "style" for lack of better words that they were trained under. Somewhere between a groove and a gem.
Each character has a set of different style trainings you could choose before entering a match. Say a defensive style that bolsters the guts system/vitality, an aggressive style which boosts special attack damage, an efficiency style that reduces scaling, or a focus style that boosts meter gain. They don't have to be uniform either, can be different per character. This is probably too much to balance for reliably (any of those crude examples just slightly off balance can be disastrous) but pretty much the only thing we know about Ono's vision for the future of SF is he wants to break down the dependence on match ups, and it seems that's the most common complaint about the state of AE too. Not sure how that's even possible in a world without perfect balance but I admire the effort.
Can work for the in-game story too. You can have a bunch of new blood and old blood seeking advice from the best for the most intense World Warrior tournament yet, which demands diverse training from its participants because of the increased experience vets have and the biggest world stage yet. Name the styles after the best trainers in the franchise (Satsui No Hadou for aggressive style, Akuma as trainer, Yoga for efficiency style, Dhalsim as trainer, whatever the opposite of Satsui No Hadou is which I'm forgetting the name of for the focus style with Gouken as your trainer, one for the villain, etc.). If "train" is too strong a word for the more socially impaired characters, use something else that just implies them employing tactics according to a certain style; but thats semantics. Add NextGen slight costume changes depending on what style you choose to appeal to casuals, with all DLC costumes having variants for all styles and boom. Also allows devs to 1UP themselves when it comes to atrocious achievements: beat arcade mode with every character in ever style. I think that can make the difference instead of adding a new mechanic to the combat system; or they could even make it something you can activate with a cool down with the press of two buttons.
Hire me Capcom. I do what GBdon't.
Each character has a set of different style trainings you could choose before entering a match. Say a defensive style that bolsters the guts system/vitality, an aggressive style which boosts special attack damage, an efficiency style that reduces scaling, or a focus style that boosts meter gain. They don't have to be uniform either, can be different per character. This is probably too much to balance for reliably (any of those crude examples just slightly off balance can be disastrous) but pretty much the only thing we know about Ono's vision for the future of SF is he wants to break down the dependence on match ups, and it seems that's the most common complaint about the state of AE too. Not sure how that's even possible in a world without perfect balance but I admire the effort.
Can work for the in-game story too. You can have a bunch of new blood and old blood seeking advice from the best for the most intense World Warrior tournament yet, which demands diverse training from its participants because of the increased experience vets have and the biggest world stage yet. Name the styles after the best trainers in the franchise (Satsui No Hadou for aggressive style, Akuma as trainer, Yoga for efficiency style, Dhalsim as trainer, whatever the opposite of Satsui No Hadou is which I'm forgetting the name of for the focus style with Gouken as your trainer, one for the villain, etc.). If "train" is too strong a word for the more socially impaired characters, use something else that just implies them employing tactics according to a certain style; but thats semantics. Add NextGen slight costume changes depending on what style you choose to appeal to casuals, with all DLC costumes having variants for all styles and boom. Also allows devs to 1UP themselves when it comes to atrocious achievements: beat arcade mode with every character in ever style. I think that can make the difference instead of adding a new mechanic to the combat system; or they could even make it something you can activate with a cool down with the press of two buttons.
Hire me Capcom. I do what GBdon't.
Karsticles
Member
Ugh, you can't just admix deontological and consequential moral systems like that. You're going to make me nerd rage, Dahbomb! >:-()
I mean in terms of how his power level is defined. He used to be weaker than Thor... now some writers at Marvel pitch as the stronger of the two.
I am also waiting for Marvel to officially classify Magneto as an omega class mutant already.
toddhunter
Member
Nice. Probably needs a halo though
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Champ dropped Morrigan.
Tizoc
Member
Have you even read any Hulk comics?
...and before him, 10 years of Peter David on Hulk. Go read this, it's a magnificent run. Greg Pak's Hulk is good too and really fun. There's also Jason Aaron, but his style reminds me of Joss Whedon for whatever reason.
If not for the character, then just read these books for the writing, they're among the best comic writers in the medium.
Oh and Red Hulk by Jeff Parker is great too.
Tizoc
Member
Writers change and with each different writer, a character is handled differently, you can go with what the current writer is doing if you want. I personally just treat them being of equal power, and that should they fight with all their might, in the aftermath of their battle
they go party in Asgard and bed every woman within eyesight
Rice-Eater
Member
So this is law? I've never heard of this. I didn't know Capcom actually created a story tier list to show where everybody stands.
Funny thing about the bottom 3 if that 2 of them have been top tier in some form. 2nd Impact Sean was beastly and so was Rufus in Vanilla SF4 and SFxT.
EDIT: Wait a minute. How is Juri in tier 4 when she obliterated Guile, Chun, and Cammy in the 2nd SF4 anime movie.
Rice-Eater
Member
Oops, dbl post
toddhunter
Member
This is what happens when there is no major on.
FGC please.
FGC please.
Rice-Eater
Member
April Duels? Tokido, Mago, Xian, bunch of Americans, tons of Canadians not good enough for you? It's not MAJOR Major, but I think it's a big enough event considering the list of attendees.
toddhunter
Member
I know you have to support your country men, but if it doesn't have a thread, it isn't a major
But ok yes, hopefully that comes to the rescue tomorrow.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
I know you have to support your country men, but if it doesn't have a thread, it isn't a major
But ok yes, hopefully that comes to the rescue tomorrow.
Yo Canada doesn't play bruh,
I thought I taught you the first time with that avatar.
tryna' get my blood pressure high n' shit, trying to make a canadian brutha make a new thread.
toddhunter
Member
You wouldn't dare.
Professor Beef
Banned
The funny thing about Akuma is that he's technically not really evil, he's just a jackass. He's only killed one person (Goutetsu). Two, if you count one of Bison's bodies.
SolarPowered
Member
Watching someone rage is fun.
crimzonflame
Member
do you guys ever sleep?
What counter are you talking about?so how about that awesome counter to morrigan/doom? i hear this was chris g's reaction to him finally being exposed.
he might as well stick to injustice where he can fraud it out.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
The one where you pick Thor and then lose.
Pretty sure there isn't an actual comprehensive canon guide. Someone just largely tried to piece together relative strengths from the games and media, and the occasional tidbits from Capcom.
KidA Seven
Member
Lee Chaolan
Member
Yes, Bionic Arm pls! <3
LOLOL. First time I've seen that, hilarious. haha.