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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | April 2013 | Sacrifice your Independent Soul

So I take it I'm the only one excited about the upcoming PSN titles on the Vita?
i am for a few of them, but there aren't many indie games coming to the vita that I don't own on the PC that I would want to play again.
@ zulux21,Takao corrected my on the sale number already.



There are many who care about that,but this don't make the retail releases (and Vita with third party publishers) situation any good.

yeah i know it was corrected, it's why I spoilered it... I just wasn't about to not post 15 minutes of searching around for numbers >.>

and yeah the retail releases aren't that happy for the entire year, funny thing though we are only 4 months into the month, there is still plenty of time to announce games for the fall for retail release, heck there is likely enough time for some late summer releases as well. I don't expect a ton myself, i think their focus will be on the ps4 as well, but I don't think the vita will be completely forgotten. I think sony needs to continue pushing the vita in japan and can't afford to ignore it there, the rest of the world isn't important and can wait for a relaunch next spring or so where they can bring over some japanese games that they hopefully got made by increasing the vita's presence in japan.

I think it will be interesting to see what sony does in general though. I mean if the ps4 does stream the games to the vita without lag, and that takes off, and they can make it work over 4g... that actually might warrant a 4g version of the vita... though I still feel at this point the new version of the vita will be a lot like a wiiu gamepad for mostly home use with the ps4.

though really a simple 2k model that adds nothing more than hdmi out and 16gb of on board memory at $200 would likely sell pretty well with some games behind it. I mean they could do a $250 bundle with something like uncharted GA (after it's removed from the IGC) and minecraft (as that needs to happen on the vita with the indie game push)

edit: top of the page recommendation. Contact mlb about mlb.tv on the vita so I can get baseball games on my vita :(
I know I already did :P
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@ zulux21,Takao corrected my on the sale numbers already.

still will Acti even let one of their studio port a full COD game to Vita when it don't do their usual zillion number? but I guess we can see a port if Sony paid.



There are many who care about that,but this don't make the retail releases (and Vita with third party publishers) situation any good.
Hmmm, you do have a point there.

Hell yeah:

Spelunky
Hotline Miami
Lone Survivor
Binding of Isaac (?)

Hope Shovel Knight makes it to the Vita. :D
Not excited about Spelunky. What's Lone Survivor though? Oh and Binding of Isaac Rebirth is coming to the Vita, PC, and PS3.
 
I am not going to say I am responsible but early yesterday I tweeted those Sony guys and now Yacht Club was contacted yesterday......I mean....



Dokuro is Platinumed! Such an awesome game and packed with content. It is actually incredibly sweet game, especially the ending. Wasn't really expecting that from the game. Platinum wasn't too hard but doing 15-1 through 15-6 without taking damage was mildly infuriating for me, but once that was cleared the rest was easy. I appreciate that getting a 100% in this game didn't involve a lot of grinding or scavenging for secrets. Even the complete all levels in under 250 minutes is incredibly lenient, so long as you retry the levels after you have solved them. Anyways it is a great game and highly recommend it to anyone especially if you like Puzzle-Platformer games, and I'd say the Platinum fairly easy to get if that's your thing.

I loved it too; one of my favourite games of this year (EU store got it late). The ending is unexpectedly affecting. I thought it would just be your stock Princess Is In This Castle, Save Her! scenario, but there was a bit more thought put into it than that. Definitely one of the more unsung Vita exclusives.
 
frankly speaking..
it would help if existing PSN games.. get ported to the Vita

Fat Princess
Castle Crashers
Shatter
Critter Crunch
Hard Corps: Uprising

are the names of some games that would be extremely fun to play on the Vita
 
We need another Vita Heaven soon announcing;

-New Tales game

-Jeanne D arc 2

-Rayman Legends

The last Tales game to "remake" on Vita is the worst regarded game in the franchise's history.

Jeanne D'arc is one of Level-5's lowest selling JP+US releases.

Sounds like Rayman is coming eventually. Seems Ubisoft doesn't want to have $40 copies for handhelds sitting on the same shelves as their $60 console versions.
 
frankly speaking..
it would help if existing PSN games.. get ported to the Vita

Fat Princess
Castle Crashers
Shatter
Critter Crunch
Hard Corps: Uprising

are the names of some games that would be extremely fun to play on the Vita
meh they should just announce 10 simple games that they own the rights to make on the vita

alundra 3
dark cloud 3
folklore 2
heavenly sword 2
Jeanne d'Arc 2
Legend of the Dragoon 2
Rogue Galaxy 2
wild arms 6
Legend of Legaia 3
and of course... PaRappa the Rapper 3

sure none of those are huge IPs but man if they brought them all back for the vita in the next year it would build some hype lol
btw notable franchises and owned properties list for sony

The last Tales game to "remake" on Vita is the worst regarded game in the franchise's history.

Jeanne D'arc is one of Level-5's lowest selling JP+US releases.

Sounds like Rayman is coming eventually. Seems Ubisoft doesn't want to have $40 copies for handhelds sitting on the same shelves as their $60 console versions.

to be fair he said new tales game not a new remake :P
and while jeanne D'arc is poor selling, doesn't change the fact some people would be excited and if they use the first game as a base it shouldn't be that expensive to make

i wouldn't be surprised if rayman ended up digital only, as much as I don't like the idea of a digital future, it sure seems like that is what is in the cards for the vita.
 
yeah i know it was corrected, it's why I spoilered it... I just wasn't about to not post 15 minutes of searching around for numbers >.>

and yeah the retail releases aren't that happy for the entire year, funny thing though we are only 4 months into the month, there is still plenty of time to announce games for the fall for retail release, heck there is likely enough time for some late summer releases as well. I don't expect a ton myself, i think their focus will be on the ps4 as well, but I don't think the vita will be completely forgotten. I think sony needs to continue pushing the vita in japan and can't afford to ignore it there, the rest of the world isn't important and can wait for a relaunch next spring or so where they can bring over some japanese games that they hopefully got made by increasing the vita's presence in japan.

I think it will be interesting to see what sony does in general though. I mean if the ps4 does stream the games to the vita without lag, and that takes off, and they can make it work over 4g... that actually might warrant a 4g version of the vita... though I still feel at this point the new version of the vita will be a lot like a wiiu gamepad for mostly home use with the ps4.

though really a simple 2k model that adds nothing more than hdmi out and 16gb of on board memory at $200 would likely sell pretty well with some games behind it. I mean they could do a $250 bundle with something like uncharted GA (after it's removed from the IGC) and minecraft (as that needs to happen on the vita with the indie game push)

yes it will require a lot of work from Sony,the retail situation can't be solved by only having PSvita with HDMI or even having Vita at $199 or lower,now that most of the puplishers have no faith on Vita SCE need to show it's software support for it (and not only two games) to encourage third party to put their games on the thing,as for PS4,it really won't help,no one will made a Vita games just because people can use Vita as Wii Gamepad on PS4(that feature not even helping the Wii U).

It will be interesting to see what will happen from now till E3(because I think that will be the point where we know the future of the system)

frankly speaking..
it would help if existing PSN games.. get ported to the Vita

Fat Princess
Castle Crashers
Shatter
Critter Crunch
Hard Corps: Uprising

are the names of some games that would be extremely fun to play on the Vita

more games wont hurt but years old ports will not help much.

to be honest here I'd like to see some of the early PS3/PSN forgotten gems (2006-2008) on Vita.

folklore 2

Shu Yoshida need to go for this to happen. (he rejected Folklore 2)
 
meh they should just announce 10 simple games that they own the rights to make on the vita

alundra 3
dark cloud 3
folklore 2
heavenly sword 2

Jeanne d'Arc 2
Legend of the Dragoon 2
Rogue Galaxy 2
wild arms 6
Legend of Legaia 3
and of course... PaRappa the Rapper 3

I would be happy enough with these.. especially Dark Cloud 2
those cell-shaded graphics..

I'm surprised we haven't seen games with the likes of Dark Cloud explored more this generation.. -visiting and rebuilding/restoring worlds... etc-
 
meh they should just announce 10 simple games that they own the rights to make on the vita

alundra 3
dark cloud 3
folklore 2
heavenly sword 2
Jeanne d'Arc 2
Legend of the Dragoon 2
Rogue Galaxy 2
wild arms 6
Legend of Legaia 3
and of course... PaRappa the Rapper 3

Simple? Each of the games you mentioned would take more than a year to develop, in some cases there's the potential for a few years.
 
The last Tales game to "remake" on Vita is the worst regarded game in the franchise's history.
Are you confusing it with the recent Tempest fan translation? Tales of Hearts was relatively well received, much better than Innocence.

Edit - nvm, I see what your post actually meant
 
Are you confusing it with the recent Tempest fan translation? Tales of Hearts was relatively well received, much better than Innocence.

There's third part to Innocence and Hearts which was aparently very badly received.
So if they were consequent now would be time for that crappy game.
 
I would be happy enough with these.. especially Dark Cloud 2
those cell-shaded graphics..

I'm surprised we haven't seen games with the likes of Dark Cloud explored more this generation.. -visiting and rebuilding/restoring worlds... etc-
well white knight chronicles did a lot with it, but people just ignore it lol.

as for PS4,it really won't help,no one will made a Vita games just because people can use Vita as Wii Gamepad on PS4(that feature not even helping the Wii U).

It will be interesting to see what will happen from now till E3(because I think that will be the point where we know the future of the system)

it will really depend on one thing whether the ps4 will matter with the vita or not, and that is if sony can get it to run lag free over decent internet. they already confirmed that you will be able to remote play over the internet, but it will be iffy if they can do it with little to no lag, if they can though that would be a huge plus for off screen play the ps4/vita combo would have over the wiiu, it would actually you know be usable outside of 25 feet of your console.

You also have to keep in mind that typically playstation owners are a little more willing to spend than nintendo owners. so while off screen play might not be a big enough feature to buy a wiiu for people, if it works well with the vita it might be enough to get someone to tag on a vita at $200 to get it, especially if there are some decent games for the vita. if they manage to sell the vita as an add on controller, there isn't anything that says they can't also focus on the plus over the wiiu gamepad that it can be taken out of the house and play games on its own. The only real thing I can see it pretty much guranteeing is that there won't be any NA/EU made AAA games for the vita as they would likely just put it on the ps4 and have people play it on the vita that way if they want to play it on the vita.

As for knowing the future of the vita at e3, I think it will be to early to tell, i figure the big window for the vita will be spring 2014, as it will be far enough away from the ps4 release that they wouldn't have to directly compete with themselves.

Simple? Each of the games you mentioned would take more than a year to develop, in some cases there's the potential for a few years.

simple in this case was in regards to the fact that they own the IPs :P
I know they already have a design for legend of the dragoon 2, I wouldn't be surprised if they had designs sitting around for other ones as well, but yeah they could take some time... those are just the IPs i am sad they haven't done anything with recently.
 
Uh... isn't Tales of Hearts regarded pretty well? And Tales of Innocence is simply mediocre, Tales of the Tempest is the worst one, AFAIK.

Tales of Hearts NDS is good. It's just that Tales of Hearts R Vita takes out some stuff and made it worse than the NDS version.
 
I was referring to Tempest. It's the only DS Tales game without a Vita release. It's also the worst game in the series. Given Innocence, and Hearts R didn't sell very well in Japan I can see Scamco not bothering with Tempest.
 
The last Tales game to "remake" on Vita is the worst regarded game in the franchise's history.

Jeanne D'arc is one of Level-5's lowest selling JP+US releases.

Sounds like Rayman is coming eventually. Seems Ubisoft doesn't want to have $40 copies for handhelds sitting on the same shelves as their $60 console versions.

Wow didn't know Jeanne D arc bombed.. such an amazing game.=[

Even if all this isn't possible, I would settle for PS2 library, why hasn't Sony allowed this yet?

There would be a run on Vita's and 32 GB cards
 
Wow didn't know Jeanne D arc bombed.. such an amazing game.=[

Even if all this isn't possible, I would settle for PS2 library, why hasn't Sony allowed this yet?

There would be a run on Vita's and 32 GB cards

ditto on that.
if only the PS2 Collections became playable on the Vita.

(but what would that leave the various HD Collections)
 
Dokuro is Platinumed! Such an awesome game and packed with content. It is actually incredibly sweet game, especially the ending. Wasn't really expecting that from the game. Platinum wasn't too hard but doing 15-1 through 15-6 without taking damage was mildly infuriating for me, but once that was cleared the rest was easy. I appreciate that getting a 100% in this game didn't involve a lot of grinding or scavenging for secrets. Even the complete all levels in under 250 minutes is incredibly lenient, so long as you retry the levels after you have solved them. Anyways it is a great game and highly recommend it to anyone especially if you like Puzzle-Platformer games, and I'd say the Platinum fairly easy to get if that's your thing.

I've owned the game since it's initial release. I played it some, but sadly I ignored in favor of other games. I've been playing a bit more lately. I'm currently on the back end of stage 9. I'm even more motivated to finish it now, after reading your post. The ending sounds intriguing. I really like the game overall. The more I play, it makes me wonder. Why did I put this game on the back burner? Every stage presents a unique challenge. The narrative is a bit thin, but effective nonetheless. Some puzzles are really intimidating (for me anyway, I suck puzzle games, but still enjoy them). The puzzles eventually click, and there is a great sense of reward. I doubt I'll platinum it. But I'm definitely going to finish it before May.
 
Hmmm, you do have a point there.


Not excited about Spelunky. What's Lone Survivor though? Oh and Binding of Isaac Rebirth is coming to the Vita, PC, and PS3.

Lone Survivor is a horror adventure game. It has a retro-ish, sidescrolling platform feel. I played it a bit and it seemed like a much less linear point-and-click game. I believe there are multiple endings in this game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgceqQOj3lI
 
Random question: does Virtue's Last Reward uses a lot of touch interactions?

Not really. I believe you can play the game without touching the interface.
 
Random question: does Virtue's Last Reward uses a lot of touch interactions?
99% of the time the game can be played without using the touch screen, but there are a few specific sections that require you to touch the screen though.

I suggest getting a cheap capacitive stylus to use for the game. It's almost impossible to use the notepad function without one.
 
99% of the time the game can be played without using the touch screen, but there are a few specific sections that require you to touch the screen though.

I suggest getting a cheap capacitive stylus to use for the game. It's almost impossible to use the notepad function without one.


It is better to just use a pen and paper anyway.
 
99% of the time the game can be played without using the touch screen, but there are a few specific sections that require you to touch the screen though.

I suggest getting a cheap capacitive stylus to use for the game. It's almost impossible to use the notepad function without one.

I used my fingers just fine, thank you!

99% sure no one except me could have read my notes.
 
Lone Survivor is a horror adventure game. It has a retro-ish, sidescrolling platform feel. I played it a bit and it seemed like a much less linear point-and-click game. I believe there are multiple endings in this game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgceqQOj3lI

Out of the announced indie titles, Lone Survivor along with Hotline Miami and Terraria are the ones I'm looking forward to the most. I even skipped out on the last indie Steam sale so that I could experience these games fresh on my Vita.
 
Random question: does Virtue's Last Reward uses a lot of touch interactions?
You can navigate with the buttons, but touch is generally much easier. For the puzzles, which control methods are enabled and which are best to use, vary.

Are we really sure that the Vita can't handle it or just speculation.
We don't know for sure, though given that the PS3 seems to barely manage it, and only after Sony's emulation team has built up years of experience working with it, it seems unlikely that Vita can do so. Maybe there are a handful less demanding games that could be made working, but it probably isn't worth it for Sony to launch a Vita PS2 classics program just for them.
 
I was referring to Tempest. It's the only DS Tales game without a Vita release. It's also the worst game in the series. Given Innocence, and Hearts R didn't sell very well in Japan I can see Scamco not bothering with Tempest.

port selling well don't mean anything too,P4G did very well and Atlus didn't bother releasing or porting anything else not even P4A,PS3 is the best place for Tales anyway so I don't think Namco care much.
 
Thanks for the answers guys. Still wondering if I should get VLR for the Vita or for the 3DS XL. I didn't think about getting a capacitive stilus, could make sense since I hate touching dat vita screen with my fingers.
 
Thanks for the answers guys. Still wondering if I should get VLR for the Vita or for the 3DS XL. I didn't think about getting a capacitive stilus, could make sense since I hate touching dat vita screen with my fingers.

Doesn't the 3DS version have a bad glitch not present on Vita?
 
port selling well don't mean anything too,P4G did very well and Atlus didn't bother releasing or porting anything else not even P4A,PS3 is the best place for Tales anyway so I don't think Namco care much.
It hasn't been that long since Persona 4 Golden released. Atlus might've not have any faith in a Vita game selling so even if they were satisfied with P4G's sales to a degree that they've decided to make more Vita games, we might not see that take effect until later this year since, you know, they can't just whip out a game from nothing in 6 months (and Atlus usually doesn't announce games too long in advance of release).

Tl;dr: It's premature to judge Atlus' Vita intentions yet, since P4G's release & success were so little time ago.
 
Is it not coming out on US? They filled every Vita advertisement montage with that T@G thing during the first month of it coming out and it never did. WTF?

And now you see the evils of the Vita one account locking.

Game didn't come out in your region? Sorry, you're not playing it!

EU has a handful of exclusives US never got. JP has many.

Sony needs to fix this issue or at least give option to switch account region.
 
I should've said SCEA, not Sony as a whole. SCEE is the only division that seems to give Vita a second thought.

This is evident by the difference in digital offerings. SCEA (NA Store): 0 exclusive games. SCEE (EU Store): 5-7 exclusive games (+t@g app)

And the games that have come out in NA after EU? Released around 6 months or more later.

I can't see it changing. The recent announcements of new indie titles will probably hit either both or some EU only. EU really is the best region account to have so far for Western Vita offerings. JP has the superior selection, most will never be localized.

But the dichotomy between US and EU Stores Vita game selection is absolutely unacceptable. Who would have thought, with US getting getting more on PS3 PSN. The fact I have to sit here and cross my fingers a game will come to my region, which is playable on my system if it weren't for 1-account lock, is unacceptable.

No matter what I say though, the voices are too low on this issue. Most of you even, will not bat an eye at the differences since most "big" games get both NA and EU release, retail to boot. Either they need to fix this by allowing multiple accounts on Vita, allow a more international release format like PlayStation Mobile on Vita, or allow us to switch regions (like MS now does).
 
Oh man, Jet Set Radio is still awesome. Touch just doesn't work though. I never managed to get Jet as a kid, but it seems easier now that I'm older.

Oh the nostalgia, I remember trying to pull of the turn around to no avail.

I might ask wifey to pick up PSO2, and buy MonHan Unite for the Vita.

How big is Touch My Katamari (MB)? nvm, I don't to go on a massive spending spree.

Buying MonHan for sure... And forget PSO2, since it's online only it defeats the point.
 
Simple? Each of the games you mentioned would take more than a year to develop, in some cases there's the potential for a few years.

They all seem to be more like 2-3 years of development. I agree with you, "simply" isnt quite the right word ;)
 
PS4 is big enough news that they will get mainstream media coverage any time they announce a press conference between now and launch. If they're smart, they use that to their advantage and only loosely organize a PS4 game showing at E3 and largely feature the Vita. I'm assuming Sony has a few tricks for Vita this year, unannounced. That's what I have to believe for now. Whether that is the truth? I don't know.


I love the Vita but there is no way they should risk the momentum the PS4 is building by making it second fiddle to the Vita at E3. Still I do hope Sony plans to make a few annoucements regarding Vita ie a NA and Europe pricedrop and a couple of exclusive retail games for the Fall.
 

Thanks, but I think it's best if I get it cheap in card format. £15 vs. £10 and dropping.

don't do it,MHFU is a very bad game.

Too late -- but I have to ask, why do you say that? ATM I vastly prefer MHPo3rd (which I can't download to my UK account) but in reality I've played all MH games on the PSP.

Freedom Unite is basically a DLC-less version of Portable 2nd G, less blood and in English. Anyway the real reason I grabbed it is because my Uni friends got together to play MHFU with me last term and I'd rather use the Vita and give one of my friend's the Go to play with.

2000 > Go in terms of controls but I'd rather just let it sit there. I messed up when I replaced the LCD and there's dirt inside -- could never be bothered to sort it out. Also the UMD is loud. Thinking about it now, I shouldn't even be allowed to play it on both machines at the same time (Go had a backup from my UMD).

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I never thought I'd go on a spending spree with the Vita. I mean, I have a year's pre-paid LOVEFiLM account with 3 games at once... I should just rent the games I'll only play once.

Argh, this is going put a hole in my pocket for sure -- I need to try not to eat into my year savings for the Surface Pro.

If I had a wishlist for Vita games it would be:
- Demon's Souls
- possibly some kind of UMD to Vita thingie

Anything that I can play on the Surface Pro I don't need for the Vita -- except maybe Jet Set Radio, but that was an impulse buy. =) and I don't like carrying around my Stick with me for SFxT (but it wasn't a good purchase anyway).

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Oh man, the Vita is the best purchase ever. All Gravity Rush, NGS1+ and Wipeout 2048 should be in some kind of Core gamer bundle.
 
the save data thing is just with vita games (not psp/ps1 games) and it's because the vita for some reason saves the game data in the bubble for downloaded games, meaning if you delete the bubble you delete the save. Uploading your save to PS+ cloud is an easy way to not lose your save.

as for transferring data... you can just back up to a pc/ps3 and then paste to the next memory card after you switch, you will lose your bubble position but i think everything else will be the same.


CMA full backup is the easy way here since you don't have to worry about anything,but it will take long time even for a 4GB card.

Ah I see. Bit daft tying a Vita save to a bubble but I could live with that. Thanks for the info, wasn't certain if backing up one Memory Card would let you restore to another or not. :D
 
Hideo Baba, the producer of the "Tales of" game series, revealed to the website Kotaku that Namco Bandai Games currently has no plans to release "Tales of" PlayStation Vita games, including Tales of Innocence R and Tales of Hearts R (pictured right), in North America.

He said, "One of the main reasons is, unfortunately the PlayStation Vita is doing relatively poorly in North America, so it's one of those things that if the numbers increased considerably, then it's something we could consider." Baba also noted that there are currently no plans to develop "Tales of" games for Nintendo's Wii U console.

Would it really be that hard to release a subtitled game with Japanese VAs on PSN?
 
The only games I want for Vita this year are Killzone Mercenary, Jak & Daxter Collection and maybe Hotline Miami if I don't buy it for Mac. But that's fine as I have yet to get Lumines: Electronic Symphony and Gravity Rush and I haven't even opened my copy of Persona 4: Golden yet. Add to that lots of PS3 games coming out and a probable PS4 launch with streaming to the Vita within a year. I'm covered.
 
Oh wait sorry... I would love a Fallout for the Vita.

=3

EDIT: OMG Touch My Katamari is another mini-Katamari. I would have thought that with the processing power of the Vita (and RAM) it would be more like the console versions (lots of stuffs). Do not want...
 
Nice one man!
That makes three (I think?) Vitabros who have obtained it.

What was the hardest part for you?

Some Ninja Trials are pretty hard, mainly the 3 bosses at once and the dreaded Rachel vs Ancient deities. That NT took me 2 days to beat on Master Ninja.
 
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