PokéBOMB 2: Electric Boogaloo (New X and Y info)

Another thing, am I the only one that really loves the new Legendaries this time around?

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They look random. These "deer" pokemon have always been awful and I hate that they are missing mouths. The bird does not look like it could fly, it's legs look like they are made of jelly. The other legendary has weird colouring and the details feel random and not contributing to the idea of it.

So yeah, not that amazing.
 
If you break down what I'm saying without the nostalgia trigger word, all it is is that your taste is influenced by your upbringing. Is this false?

Would you argue that the person you are today and all of the values you possess are completely independent from the experiences you've had in the X number of years you've lived? This is naive. You can't escape from your past; it makes you whom you are, in every facet of your being.

I think it's hilarious when people try to deny nostalgia affecting them, as it affects every human being on this planet. They should accept and embrace it.

I'm saying that i'm capable of judging something i'm interested in without being biased by nostalgia. What you're saying here really amounts to nothing, of course my opinion on everything has been shaped by my upbringing and everything i've experienced. That applies to anything and not just things i happened to experience when i was younger.

I'm not saying i don't experience nostalgia, i play old games and watch old movies to get that feeling and i'm well aware of it. That doesn't mean that i'm not capable of looking at something i experienced at a younger age and judging it objectively.

Basically your logic could be applied to anything to say that the newer thing is always better. Anything you experienced as a kid (and this is making a big assumption about the persons age) you cannot judge objectively. This is ultimately why there is no point bringing it up in the first place. There is no discussion to have, it's basically just a cheap way of saying 'you're wrong' without actually having to go into detail why.

Edit: Also i should mention that what you describe in your post isn't nostalgia. Nostalgia is a specific feeling you have for something that you experienced in the past that is triggered when you experience it again in the future. My life experiences shaping my opinion on various things i will encounter is not nostalgia at all.
 
This is ultimately why there is no point bringing it up in the first place. There is no discussion to have, it's basically just a cheap way of saying 'you're wrong' without actually having to go into detail why.

You're exactly right. It was a trivial comment. In fact, if you go back to the original post I made, it was very trivial indeed. The discussion was blown much farther out of proportion than I had intended, so it appears I'm trying to have this profound argument, when I was really just saying something straightforward.
 
You're exactly right. It was a trivial comment. In fact, if you go back to the original post I made, it was very trivial indeed. The discussion was blown much farther out of proportion than I had intended, so it appears I'm trying to have this profound argument, when I was really just saying something straightforward.

Fair enough. The discussion kinda died out a page ago and i wasn't really intending on keeping it going as it's just sending the thread off topic (whatever that may be now lol).
 
They look random. These "deer" pokemon have always been awful and I hate that they are missing mouths. The bird does not look like it could fly, it's legs look like they are made of jelly. The other legendary has weird colouring and the details feel random and not contributing to the idea of it.

So yeah, not that amazing.

The last Pokemon I played was gold back in the GBC and these look awesome to me :/
 
I like the new dude. I made a quick drawing

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I think he could look awesome in menacing, alienesque poses :P

Nice, man. Poke fan artists get there stuff outta the door fast.
By the way, all this secrecy regarding typings honestly leads me to believe they will be a new one (or two). Did reveals in past gens come with typings?
 
Game Freak of old took six years to deliver the glitchy mess that was Pokemon Green, and couldn't even fix it in their special edition Blue, or the subsequent international editions. Charm, my butt.

Not only that, they were so incompetant at balancing they needed to introduce two whole new types just to fix the mess in the sequels.

Go count the number of Gen 1 Pokemon with random horns on regular looking animals, then count how many have "special forehead dot" as a design feature and rememberr they had six years.
 
I love this design, it's a nice medium between Mew and Mewtwo and it kind of reminds me of Giger's Alien, especially with the fanart above. It's cool how they brought back the Mew and Mewtwo mythos along with Genesect, since it's been theorized that X and Y doesn't only refer to 3D axes but also chromosomes, and the double helix is part of the Japanese logo... this is getting really interesting!
 
Hey, me pointing out that the original Mewtwo, aka The Bits and Bobs King, wouldn't sit well with Gen 1 fans if it had released in later gens, isn't a condescending statement, it's true. Proof's in the poke-pudding -- here we have a design more streamlined than the original, the original having weird stubby protrusions and tubes in its neck and so on, and yet, people treat the new Mewtwo -- which has symmetrical claws, a truly sleek head, etc -- as though it's the inelegant one. Ah well, they'll warm up to it!
I've been playing these games since Christmas 1998, and yes I have a soft spot for Gen 1 above all others.

That said, if Mewtwo's design came out today, I'd probably prefer it to "Mewthree." Why?

Mewtwo's hands and feet are actually hands and feet (regardless of "bunny feet lololol"), and not nubs. He also has a tail, rather than a protrusion attached to the head that's "basically a tail but is supposed to look sort of like hair?" And, the neck-tube is excused because I excuse the head-ring on Mewthree as well, where neither are truly necessary aspects of the overall designs.

In the end I think Mewthree is alright, and I started in Gen 1. Preference for Mewtwo comes from more places than nostalgia. I'm not saying I'm correct, but I'm offering a reasonable opinion.
 
It has sausage fingers/toes. My least favourite thing about Mew2.0 is ditching Mewtwo's awesome hands.

Also, yeah, that's a great piece of work, MYE.
 
I like the new dude. I made a quick drawing

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I think he could look awesome in menacing, alienesque poses :P

Nice drawing.

GET HELP.

IMMEDIATELY.

Exactly what I was thinking lol.

I've been playing these games since Christmas 1998, and yes I have a soft spot for Gen 1 above all others.

That said, if Mewtwo's design came out today, I'd probably prefer it to "Mewthree." Why?

Mewtwo's hands and feet are actually hands and feet, and not nubs. He also has a tail, rather than a protrusion attached to the head that's "basically a tail but is supposed to look sort of like hair?" And, the neck-tube is excused because I excuse the head-ring on Mewthree as well.

In the end I think Mewthree is alright, and I started in Gen 1. Preference for Mewtwo comes from more places than nostalgia.

You would suddenly prefer Mewtwo because of its hands and feet over the one you grew up with (Mewthree)? This is a hypothetical scenario, but I find that to be bullshit because you would have a soft spot for gen 1, so you would wonder why they did that with its hands and feet (Mewthree -> Mewtwo).

What I'm basically saying is, you would have the same reaction towards Mewtwo if it was revealed now, as you do have with Mewthree. Its fine not to like its hands or toes or whatever.
 
Nice, man. Poke fan artists get there stuff outta the door fast.
By the way, all this secrecy regarding typings honestly leads me to believe they will be a new one (or two). Did reveals in past gens come with typings?

That's a pretty big leap to make, Keasby. GameFreak hasn't made new types since Gen 2, and those were only made because Psychic was severely overpowered. No such situation exists at the moment.

I think it's just GF being smart about what they reveal and when. They're trickling information out to keep interest up.
 
They look random. These "deer" pokemon have always been awful and I hate that they are missing mouths. The bird does not look like it could fly, it's legs look like they are made of jelly. The other legendary has weird colouring and the details feel random and not contributing to the idea of it.

So yeah, not that amazing.
These legendaries are pretty good and are easily the best cover legendaries since Lugia/ho-oh.
 
I love the Newtwo! By the way, what if Newtwo is the one that is transforming into Mewtwo? And the Mewtwo we originally saw in the trailer, wasn't really Mewtwo and was Newtwo disguised as him. That could also explain why he replaces Mewtwo in the movie art. I'm conflicted, though, because in Newtwo's reveal it states "This new Pokemon", indicating that it's not a forme, but if it were to replace Mewtwo in the movie art, then that would indicate it's a form and not a "new Pokemon"... so, it's either a new forme or what I speculated. I mean, it's possible to be a "new Pokemon", too, and replace Mewtwo in the art, but that doesn't make as much sense.
 
I really strongly dislike Ho-oh for some reason. Always have. It's definitely in my bottom 2 or 3 mascot legendaries. Tied with Palkia.
 
I've been playing these games since Christmas 1998, and yes I have a soft spot for Gen 1 above all others.

That said, if Mewtwo's design came out today, I'd probably prefer it to "Mewthree." Why?

Mewtwo's hands and feet are actually hands and feet (regardless of "bunny feet lololol"), and not nubs. He also has a tail, rather than a protrusion attached to the head that's "basically a tail but is supposed to look sort of like hair?" And, the neck-tube is excused because I excuse the head-ring on Mewthree as well, where neither are truly necessary aspects of the overall designs.

In the end I think Mewthree is alright, and I started in Gen 1. Preference for Mewtwo comes from more places than nostalgia. I'm not saying I'm correct, but I'm offering a reasonable opinion.
All of the Mew iterations hands are impractical and would never be useful. Nothing about Mewtwo's hand makes it any more functional than Mewthree's. Not to mention Mew is the most useless of them all.
 
I really strongly dislike Ho-oh for some reason. Always have. It's definitely in my bottom 2 or 3 mascot legendaries. Tied with Palkia.

I can't blame you for that, as Ho-oh looks really awkward and ugly. One of the worst phoenix designs I've ever seen.
 
What I'm basically saying is, you would have the same reaction towards Mewtwo if it was revealed now, as you do have with Mewthree. Its fine not to like its hands or toes or whatever.
Sorry, I was treating the hypothetical situation as if Mewtwo/Mewthree didn't exist until now, and either they both were shown or only Mewtwo was shown (and I'd be like "that's a good design" over "that's an acceptable design"). But I guess the true hypothetical situation is if the two were swapped.

In that case, I really don't know how I'd feel.

All of the Mew iterations hands are impractical and would never be useful. Nothing about Mewtwo's hand makes it any more functional than Mewthree's. Not to mention Mew is the most useless of them all.
I'm just going by pictures and from a pure aesthetic perspective, not really focusing on function.

A hand that looks like a hand attacked to an arm, rather than three nubs attached to a stump, is more appealing regardless of the functions of either.

But I guess we shouldn't focus too much on this. In the end it's not really that important. Pokemon will always have their quirks.
 
I love the Newtwo! By the way, what if Newtwo is the one that is transforming into Mewtwo? And the Mewtwo we originally saw in the trailer, wasn't really Mewtwo and was Newtwo disguised as him. That could also explain why he replaces Mewtwo in the movie art. I'm conflicted, though, because in Newtwo's reveal it states "This new Pokemon", indicating that it's not a forme, but if it were to replace Mewtwo in the movie art, then that would indicate it's a form and not a "new Pokemon"... so, it's either a new forme or what I speculated. I mean, it's possible to be a "new Pokemon", too, and replace Mewtwo in the art, but that doesn't make as much sense.

Mewtwo doesn't really need a forme that changes anything, since he's still pretty much a god among Pokémen, and I think that's what a lot of people are hung up on (and why the website's not helping). It could be something like Resolute Forme where it's purely aesthetic, it could be some crazy new mechanic, or it could be an entirely new Pokemon.
 
Sorry, I was treating the hypothetical situation as if Mewtwo/Mewthree didn't exist until now, and either they both were shown or only Mewtwo was shown (and I'd be like "that's a good design" over "that's an acceptable design"). But I guess the true hypothetical situation is if the two were swapped.

In that case, I really don't know how I'd feel.

OH, OK, then yea. Ignore what I said lol.

Mewtwo doesn't really need a forme that changes anything, since he's still pretty much a god among Pokémen, and I think that's what a lot of people are hung up on (and why the website's not helping). It could be something like Resolute Forme where it's purely aesthetic, it could be some crazy new mechanic, or it could be an entirely new Pokemon.

The movie's title has "Mewtwo's Awakening", so that seems to indicate it will be more powerful or something. Though thinking about it, it seems like this will be more of a speed stat increase, since the full title of the movie is "Extremespeed Genesect: Mewtwo's Awakening", so it could be possible Mewtwo needs more speed to keep up with Genesect.
 
OH, OK, then yea. Ignore what I said lol.



The movie's title has "Mewtwo's Awakening", so that seems to indicate it will be more powerful or something. Though thinking about it, it seems like this will be more of a speed stat increase, since the full title of the movie is "Extremespeed Genesect: Mewtwo's Awakening", so it could be possible Mewtwo needs more speed to keep up with Genesect.

Plus, if the form name that accompanied the leak is of any indication, that also makes sense. Eclair Forme, as in the french for flash, lightning etc
 
Plus, if the form name that accompanied the leak is of any indication, that also makes sense. Eclair Forme, as in the french for flash, lightning etc

Oh then yea, it probably is a more faster form. Though that is funny when looking at this part of the movie:

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I hope it's Psychic/Fire type. They might be hinting at a Fire connection with those eyes, and the Fire type would counter Genesect's advantage over Psychic perfectly.
 
Plus, if the form name that accompanied the leak is of any indication, that also makes sense. Eclair Forme, as in the french for flash, lightning etc

Hmm, that would explain why it's sleeker than the Mewtwo design we've had for years. It reminds me a lot of Deoxys' Speed Forme now that I think about it.
 
According to the movie, it's a new form of Mewtwo that awakens at level 100:

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Na you're misinterpreting. While that does indicate that it is a new form of Mewtwo by the fact Mewtwo is no longer in the artwork for the movie, the Level 100 bit is just referencing the new event for it being given for the movie.
 
Plus, if the form name that accompanied the leak is of any indication, that also makes sense. Eclair Forme, as in the french for flash, lightning etc

I wonder if it could it be that MewThree is a new species with multiple formes.
 
I'm guilty of using the terms myself, but I think that "genwunners" and "nostalgia" are buzzwords that are being thrown around here a bit too much.

That said, I don't think I've seen a bigger meltdown over a single new Pokémon.
 
The only things I would change about his design would be changing his feet, chest, and eye shape to resemble Mewtwo a bit more. Other than that I am loving Mewtri.
 
I'm guilty of using the terms myself, but I think that "genwunners" and "nostalgia" are buzzwords that are being thrown around here a bit too much.

That said, I don't think I've seen a bigger meltdown over a single new Pokémon.

It is a bit sad and ironic that one of the reasons they decided to do this was probably to tug at those heartstrings, without anticipating the opposite effect would occur for so many people.
 
Looking at the gifs/trailer, I noticed that slightly elevated part behind the creatures.
Maybe the trainers will stand on it during battles?
 
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