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Skullgirls DLC Character vote | The Campaign united us, The Voting will destroy us
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A Sentient Keyboard
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No. Please. Stop.
If you people want to promote Brain Drain you should make a montage video showing off how he is designed after characters with some of the most broken mechanics displayed in their respective games.
I didn't realize Brain Drain could be pure cheese until yesterday.
If you people want to promote Brain Drain you should make a montage video showing off how he is designed after characters with some of the most broken mechanics displayed in their respective games.
I didn't realize Brain Drain could be pure cheese until yesterday.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Don't worry, I think it's highly unlikely Brain Drain makes it through.
DiscoShark
Banned
Whoa! A lot to catch up on here, this thread exploded once Top 16 and the beginning of round 2 started. Still can't believe Taliesin didn't make Top 16 and the likes of Scythana and Molly (though can't complain on the latter) did. Never underestimate the fan-art army ...
My Round 2 Votes :
Annie - Eliza - Venus
Predictions for Top 8 :
Aeon
Annie
Beowulf
Eliza
Feng
Marie
Minette
Panzerfaust
I'm calling a big upset on Isaac but I think that's really the only controversial opinion. I may be leveraging Japan's support of Mecha to a vote for Panzerfaust a bit much but that's just what makes these things fun.
#TeamEliza
My Round 2 Votes :
Annie - Eliza - Venus
Predictions for Top 8 :
Aeon
Annie
Beowulf
Eliza
Feng
Marie
Minette
Panzerfaust
I'm calling a big upset on Isaac but I think that's really the only controversial opinion. I may be leveraging Japan's support of Mecha to a vote for Panzerfaust a bit much but that's just what makes these things fun.
#TeamEliza
Werewolf Jones
Member
I thought Japan only wanted the loli's?
Beowulf is by far the worst potential male character; I really don't understand his following. Non-distinct design with zero visual charisma, no potential for crazy Bahjid sakuga, no interesting ties to the story or already existing cast and the most annoying dudebro bait personality of them all. If I wanted a stock wrestler character I would just play Street Fighter. Plus, I've always found grapplers sleep-inducingly boring.
The only good wrestler in the history of wrestling is Kinnikuman.
I would say Molly probably has a better chance from the mecha perspective...
Master Milk
Member
Gold meat? Soy sauce?
DiscoShark
Banned
No one seems to know what Japan wants.
Browsing Pixiv would probably make you think Minette / Marie have the most universal support while the vocal members on their imageboards seem to be pushing a combination of Panzerfaust, Aeon, or Molly (I can't confirm personally).
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Ravid, tell Alex to revive Valentine's Last Hope.
D:
These designs are far too good to stay dead!
Give me Halloween and Christmas!
Needed justification to add a guy who wasn't Isaac. I think you may be right though.
Sure is hard to make these assumptions without the data in front of you.
SolarPowered
Member
Japan is not going for Panzerfaust. No way in hell. I don't believe it.
A grappler would imply a character whose game revolves around grappling. That won't be the case for Beowulf. We're not talking MMA or college/olympic wrestling here. We're talking about a beer chugging, table breaking, chair throwing wacko who makes a habit out of fighting giant monsters for sports entertainment. What's not to like?
It's a shame that they are all dead. There has to be more that could be done with the hospital/nurse theme besides what Valentine offered. Oh well, about half of the characters up for vote on the campaign have some really neat designs so I guess missing one isn't the end of the world.Ravid, tell Alex to revive Valentine's Last Hope.
D:
These designs are far too good to stay dead!
Give me Halloween and Christmas!
All the little girls are crazy super-natural characters with super-powers; from an animation perspective, they're a lot more interesting. Annie summons meteors, rides on stars, does Pretty Cure fighting moves and uses her rabbit to channel the power of the universe. Visually, it's not even a contest: Beowulf is by far the most stock and vanilla character in the entire cast.
As for gameplay, I don't see how a stock grappler character sounds fun at all. Even a Sol clone would be more entertaining.
All of his "inspirations" are grapplers; why wouldn't I expect a grappler?
Other than the monster fighting part, that sounds no different from Zangief.
My predictions for Top 4 are something along the lines of:
Beowulf
Minette
Feng
???
Like, yeah, I'm not sure who that fourth spot goes to. I'd like Molly to make it, but to be honest I suspect she won't make it past the third round. Annie or Marie maybe? Possibly Aeon?
I personally think it will come down to a vote between Beowulf and Minette, and at that point we'll see some real promotion going on. As well as character loyalty, etc.
To be honest, while I like Beowulf's design, I'm not too keen on another grappler, seeing how powerful Cerebella already is.
I think I've finally understood Beowulf's "appeal": he is the ultimate male power-fantasy. A normal dudebro that beats empowered super-females into submission by using the power of the DICK (represented perfectly by WRESTLING, the peak of trashy masculinity), sending them back to the kitchen and proving his superiority. Fuck this shit, Anita was right. Gamers are the worst.
If we have confidence in the Skullgirl creators to make the most out of the worst concept... then the voting is pointless, no? Anything will turn out fine, after all!
If we have confidence in the Skullgirl creators to make the most out of the worst concept... then the voting is pointless, no? Anything will turn out fine, after all!
Um.
This doesn't sound anything like Capcom's wrestler characters. Even just the vague sketches of chair attacks descriptions they've given are far more complex and varied than the Zangiefs or El Fuertes of the world. He's not just "a grappler," he's "a grappler who can throw/set a long-distance space-control tool which gives him access to additional moves and mixups."The character descriptions page said:
If you wanna vote based on aesthetics, that's cool. Different strokes, and all that.
SolarPowered
Member
Character inspirations are not all tied to gameplay. It's been said several times that these inspirations might be thematic(Annie and Sol or Minette and Roll), based on a move or two(Filia and Magneto) or related to appearance(Cody and Scythana). Like... did you know that Cerebella has Makoto's rush punch? That doesn't make her a hard hitting pixie, does it?
Hell, Mike has even gone on record stating that Beowulf will be using his chair like Captain America's shield when he isn't throwing himself off of it like those crazy Hardy brothers or Ray Mysterio. That is nothing like Zangief, Fuerte, Potemkin or many other famous grapplers.
Edit: Man... I'm pretty sure the character inspirations for several characters even include historical figures like Nikola Tesla and Richard Feynman. LOL
Hell, Mike has even gone on record stating that Beowulf will be using his chair like Captain America's shield when he isn't throwing himself off of it like those crazy Hardy brothers or Ray Mysterio. That is nothing like Zangief, Fuerte, Potemkin or many other famous grapplers.
Edit: Man... I'm pretty sure the character inspirations for several characters even include historical figures like Nikola Tesla and Richard Feynman. LOL
While I like Beowulf (enough that I strongly consider him every time I vote), this is pretty reductive, given criteria like 'no existing ties to story' - characters like Annie and especially characters like Marie or Umbrella couldn't be more tied into the story. I could understand (but not empathize) with disagreement that they have more visual charisma, but I really wouldn't say they have just as much (or less) relation to the story than Beowulf. Just something I got hung up on.
There's nothing supernatural about Minette and people are going nuts over her just because she's cute - her gimmick/excuse to fight is that somehow customers would follow her everywhere other than the restaurant where she works to give her tips and stuff, including the goddamn skullgirl layer, which breaks suspension of disbelief even in a setting as flexible as this one...
A wreslting character can have throws without having his whole game revolving around landing that one big throw that makes it all worthwhile - while someone slow and heavy like Zangief may be the reference for a lot of people, there have been plenty of agile and mobile characters with special throws as important parts of their arsenal, while retaining many other viable attack options, KoF for one has something of a history with it.
As for Beowulf's appeal as a comparetively regular guy, frankly, it's something the game needs - to me the fact that SG is a cast of weirdos stands out more than the fact that it'll be all-female until Big Band comes along, and someone like Filia as the postergirl just emphasizes that, which is why I defend that Parasoul should have that role instead.
IMO, a good protagonist should set the done for the game or be the "plain" center around which the surrounding weirdness can be judged:
- in Street Fighter, you have Ryu as a mostly plain Karate guy with a few small distinguishing characteristics and some moves that defy physics, which set the tone for the early days of the game when most characters represented some martial art or stereotype with the odd bit of flashiness, and it worked out perfectly
- for Fatal Fury, you had Terry, who gave off an urban yet colorful vibe that is pervasive across the entire series
- in Guilty Gear, which is another series with a cast of weirdos, you have Sol, whoose look is far from something you're likely to find in good ol' Earth Prime, but feels plain in looks and gameplay compared to most of the cast in his game, yet he has quite some significance in its central conflicts
Well, this sort of turned into my "Parasoul would be a better protagonist" rant, but basically, SG could use something resembling "normal" as a breather for the weirdness, and I welcome Beowulf to deliver it.
So, she fight because everybody wants to rape her? that sounds awesome.
#TeamMinette
#TeamFeng
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
For all the craziness going on in the stories, the available characters are pretty self-contained, and the ones that bring backup (Parasoul and Peacock) have well-established bonds between them and their posse (egrets for Parasoul; Avery, Andy and Tommy for Peaocock) which imply facing challenging odds together, which isn't something I see Minette and her customers having...
Cartoons for little girls have better choreography, special effects and costumes than wrestling:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKvTDqRN5Kg&feature=player_detailpage#t=485s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7aQzRE10TM
SaberVulcan
Member
Well, 2/3 of the characters I liked made it to top 16. Poor Leduc. My 4th vote was for the fish, cause why not.
Lets go Shark and Tank men!
Lets go Shark and Tank men!
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
This is the correct answer.
The S rank answer has Isaac in it
Wrestling and magical girls aren't mutually exclusive, which is why Annie doing well in this doesn't bother me much.
What?! Wrestling is the purest, most noble form of human arts. Behold!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkDiqjaN-IY
I just shed a manly tear watching that ;_;
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Seriously? :\
Troubled Bat
Member
If you want him so badly, it doesn't matter what skills you have. DO IT.
Umm, so with all the wars going on. The chances of characters getting in drops.. O.e
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
DaRabidDuckie
Junior Member
Here's some food for thought: since the Canopy Kingdom is not our world... maybe in their world, professional wrestling is actually real.
In defense of beowulf, he has some potential because of THIS CHAIR, THIS CHAIR, THIS CHAIR, not because of his visual design or personality...shame that I liked more the other characters but I will not be mad if he won...
But if B.Dahlia, Panzerfaust or Brain Drain wins I will :run:
But if B.Dahlia, Panzerfaust or Brain Drain wins I will :run:
People don't think he has much visual charisma or identity (thus much potential for spectacular feats of animation), dislike wrestling archetypes, dislike wrestlers, dislike the wrestling inspired moveset, or just plain don't want guys in their Skullgirls. Give or take a few other reasons.
I like Beowulf a lot, and the tag-team stuff sounds brilliant, but I think as far as #TeamPenis goes, I'm way more for Isaac. I have to admit that for a long time I didn't really understand what was going on with his time-travel stuff for a while, but with it having been clarified, I couldn't be more interested in seeing him make it to the top 4 alongside Annie.
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