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[Deified Data]

Is the SMTIV troll movement anything like the war on Christmas?

 

[ArtHands]

But why? Why would someone do that? Makes no sense lol.

People butthurt that Atlus announces this instead of persona 5 & people without a 3ds as stated in the past few pages

 

[Aeana]

As somebody who's been a general fan of the metaseries for years, it's actually embarrassing to see so many people being bitter that their favorite part of the series isn't the one receiving (slightly) more recognition.

It's not about recognition. That's really missing the point. It's about sales and development resources. The core series is significantly less popular, so it receives significantly fewer resources than Persona does. That absolutely has an effect on the games being made.

 

[Nairume]

It's not about recognition. That's really missing the point. It's about sales and development resources. The core series is significantly less popular, so it receives significantly fewer resources than Persona does. That absolutely has an effect on the games being made.

That's fair, though I guess I've not really been all that worried about the resource disparity being all that big. P5 is probably going to get more resources devoted to it than anything other than maaaaaaybe SMTxFE (and that is a very very very big maybe), but at least we've managed to get two new core SMTs and a couple of other really outstanding games while P5 has been stuck in whatever limbo its in right now.

Still, while I guess it's warranted to be annoyed at Atlus, it's really of dumb to have a sort of paranoia over Persona fans plotting against the rest of the franchise.

 

[GeekyDad]

Sometimes I forget we're talking about video games.

 

[Nairume]

Sometimes I forget we're talking about video games.

Exactly why we should talk about how awesome these games are!

I can't wait for SMT4. Gonna rock that neutral path. Maybe even go law if Atlus's surprising swing towards making law not mustache-twirlingly evil anymore continues.

 

[fates]

while P5 has been stuck in whatever limbo its in right now.

There was a an almost 7 year gap (1999-2006) between Persona 2 EP and Persona 3. I think the quick turn-around on Persona 4 lead some people to believe this was a franchise they would churn out every other year or so. I don't think it's in "limbo" as much as it is in such an early stage of development that they have nothing meaningful to show the media.

It's not like the Persona franchise is being silent, anyway. They've got those P3 movies on the way.

Anyway, I don't know about the "troll movement" thing, it's more likely than not some butthurt people over the first person thing, or the fact it's using those Soul Hackers sprites still (which I love... well, except for Titania, I really prefer the green dress Titania). Negativity always dominates discourse on the internet because those who are content have nothing to complain about! It's nothing to worry about.

 

[Persona86]

People butthurt that Atlus announces this instead of persona 5 & people without a 3ds as stated in the past few pages

All the thumbs down still doesn't make sense to me, because it's the first time I've heard of such negativity on the subject lol.

For example look at this SMTIV trailer, it has ZERO thumbs down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50wulf9wLAs

Also I don't really think people are upset that this is not Persona and that they don't have a 3DS, but I think the thumbs down is more likely due to 2D graphics after what we had in Nocturne, and the fact that Atlus has a worse and worse relationship with Europe.

Also it's possible that there are some Fire Emblem fans who only know of SMT through that video, and assume it looks crap and are disappointed that there is going to be a SMT X Fire Emblem game lol.

 

[Augemitbutter]

who cares about thumbs. i doubt it has anything to do with the 3DS. the 3DS is good enough for what they're aiming for. it's not like the ugly atrocity that was Dragon Quest 9 on DS.

 

[buddha0991]

who cares about thumbs. i doubt it has anything to do with the 3DS. the 3DS is good enough for what they're aiming for. it's not like the ugly atrocity that was Dragon Quest 9 on DS.

I care about my Thumbs a lot! I couldn't do mug without them!


Joking aside, I have been following this game since day -3 and aside from reactions to 2d graphics and presentation, this is the first negative thing I've seen abou this game to this magnitude.

 

[Data West]

I hope there's a path for Navarre where I can get a sweet pompadour.

 

[Artemisia]

I'll just ask here: will Soul Hackers have a club nintendo code in the box?

 

[KarmaCow]

I'll just ask here: will Soul Hackers have a club nintendo code in the box?

I wouldn't bet on it. EOIV didn't have it and there is no Intend to Buy on Club Nintendo for Soul Hackers.

 

[witchedwiz]

cmon atlus... eu release date :|

 

[cws]

I wouldn't bet on it. EOIV didn't have it and there is no Intend to Buy on Club Nintendo for Soul Hackers.

Weird ....in Europe every 3DS game comes with a Club Nintendo code.

 

[Artemisia]

Weird ....in Europe every 3DS game comes with a Club Nintendo code.

That's why I was asking. Every game I've purchased came with a code, even games like Virtue's Last Reward and Tales of the Abyss 3DS.

 

[KarmaCow]

Ah whoops sorry, I didn't consider Europe. EOIV only had the safety booklets in NA.

 

[Soriku]

That new video is the only one with a large number of dislikes and it likely sprung up because of some dumb Youtube argument (SMTxFE related?). Nothing to worry about.

 

[fernoca]

Al I want is for Atlus to bundle this with some artbook and a soundtrack and call it a day. No excuses!!!

 

[Pouh]

People butthurt that Atlus announces this instead of persona 5 & people without a 3ds as stated in the past few pages

Don't forget Europeans too.

 

[GeekyDad]

Well, either the way, the premise seems really cool, and I had a good time with Strange Journey. This will be another awesome addition to my library. The 3DS is busting loose this year -- no doubt about it.

 

[Vamphuntr]

I'll just ask here: will Soul Hackers have a club nintendo code in the box?

Hopefully. My EO4 didn't have a club nintendo code nor a manual. Might as well have bought the used version as they had four and the employee warned me that there was only the cart in the box but I didn't believe him :S

 

[Soriku]

Staff list:

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/10/shin-megami-tensei-ivs-staff-have-worked-on-these-games/

In their recent announcement for Shin Megami Tensei IV’s Summer release in North America, Atlus mentioned that the game is being worked on by developers who have been involved with games like Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, Strange Journey, Persona and Soul Hackers.



Those are some of Atlus’ more notable games, so we decided to take a look at the staff list on Shin Megami Tensei IV’s Japanese website, to see just what the game’s lead designers have worked on in the past. You can find the translated list below. (Note that this is more of a literal translation to ensure accuracy.)



Scenario original draft: Kazuma Kaneko

Shin Megami Tensei series demon design



Director: Kazuyuki Yamai

Maken X – Level Design

Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (PS1) – Level design, EX dungeon supervisor

Maken Shao – Lead level design

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne – Lead level designer, NPC dialogue

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Maniacs – Director

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. the Soulless Army – Director

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. King Abbadon – Director

Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey – Events, scenario support

Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (3DS) – Director



Character Designer: Masayuki Doi

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne – Concept art

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Maniacs – Concept art

Digital Devil Saga – Concept art

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. the Soulless Army – Concept art, sub-character design

Trauma Center: Second Opinion – Character designer

Trauma Center: New Blood – Art director, character designer

Trauma Center 2: Under the Knife – Character designer

Trauma Team – Art director, Character designer

Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (PSP) – New character design

Devil Summoner 2: Soul Hackers (3DS) – New character design



Art Director: Eiji Ishida

REBUS – Movie scenes

Maken X – Character modelling, motion

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne – Background graphic supervisor

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Maniacs – Art director

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. the Soulless Army – Art director

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. King Abbadon – Art director

Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey – Director

Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (3DS) – Art director



Main Programmer: Satoshi Ooyama

Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PS1) – Dungeon tools programming

Maken Shao – Main programmer

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne – Main programmer

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Maniacs – Main programmer

Digital Devil Saga – Main programmer

Digital Devil Saga 2 – Main programmer

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. the Soulless Army – Main programmer

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. King Abbadon – Main programmer

Catherine – Bar Nightmare Stage Dance Floor program

Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (3DS) – Technical director



Sound Director: Kenichi Tsuchiya

Revelations: Persona (PS1) – Sound creator [Composer, sound effects]

Shin Megami Tensei (PS1) – Series porting sound director [Composer, SE]

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne – Sound creator [Composer, sound effects]

Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Maniacs – Sound creator [Composer, SE]

Raidou Kuzonoha vs. the Soulless Army – Sound creator [Voice Recording & MA]

Persona 3 – Sound creator [Sound effects]

Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey – Sound creator [Sound effects]

Tokyo Mono Hara Shi – Sound director [Composition, sound effects]

Catherine – Sound creator [Composition, sound effects]

Persona 4: Golden – Sound creator [ Composition, sound effects]



Sound Composer: Ryouta Kozuka

Persona 4 – Sound creator [Composer]

Persona (PSP) – Sound creator [Sound effects/new movies BGM etc.]

Persona 3 Portable – Sound creator [Sound effect creation]

Trauma Team – Sound creator [Composer, sound effect creation]

Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time – Sound creator [New OP/ED songs]

Persona 2: Innocent Sin (PSP) – Sound creator [Arranged BGM, new song comp.]

Devil Survivor 2 – Sound creator [Composer]

Devil Survivor: Overclocked – Sound creator [New OP song]

Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers – Sound creator [New OP, composer, SE porting]



The team of designers working on Shin Megami Tensei IV is called the “Maniacs Team,” presumably due to their heavy involvement in the Maniacs edition of Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (and in some cases, the original version, too).

 

[TurnipFritters]

Something real strange about that girl Hikaru...

 

[buddha0991]

That's a goods pedigree

Something real strange about that girl Hikaru...

she's ur waifu

 

[TurnipFritters]

I hope Aeana starts banning people who use the w-word.

 

[Soriku]

Someone got Persona in my SMT.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

She's a Persona 5 character.

 

[buddha0991]

I hope Aeana starts banning people who use the w-word.

Didn't you use it before, careful what you wish for turnip kun senpai san chan.

Y'all are forgetting Tamaki Uchida tho, star of SMT If... And eventual Persona 1/2 character

 

[TurnipFritters]

I mean she honest to G*d might be since her description is literally "She seems out of place in this setting and she seems interested in the Hero."

The other two characters, Tsugihaki and Fujiwara, have basically no description other than you run into the in Tokyo and one is waiting on the other when you first encounter him.

 

[GeekyDad]

Well, it is done. Pre-ordered along with my two copies of New Leaf.

 

[buddha0991]

I mean she honest to G*d might be since her description is literally "She seems out of place in this setting and she seems interested in the Hero."

The other two characters, Tsugihaki and Fujiwara, have basically no description other than you run into the in Tokyo and one is waiting on the other when you first encounter him.

Maybe she is a timelord.

 

[Snakeyes]

Kaneko confirmed to be on board? Aww yuhss.

 

[Marche90]

Maybe she is a timelord.

She's missing her TARDIS, then.

Anyway, it could be an extremely early cameo. She might be this game's Vincent, for what it's worth.

 

[Just take it with you.]

I mean she honest to G*d might be since her description is literally "She seems out of place in this setting and she seems interested in the Hero."

The other two characters, Tsugihaki and Fujiwara, have basically no description other than you run into the in Tokyo and one is waiting on the other when you first encounter him.

Maybe she's the super-secret superultramegaboss of the game who summons Seraph as a Persona.

...Or maybe she's Lilith trying her tricks again.

 

[buddha0991]

Maybe she's the super-secret superultramegaboss of the game who summons Seraph as a Persona.

...Or maybe she's Lilith trying her tricks again.

I read that as Serph, but Seraph is fine too

 

[SteeloDMZ]

Are all the demons in the boxart new designs? I loooove the one on the top right corner.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Maybe she's the super-secret superultramegaboss of the game who summons Seraph as a Persona.

...Or maybe she's Lilith trying her tricks again.

Yeah, Lilith crossed my mind too.

 

[kayos90]

Are all the demons in the boxart new designs? I loooove the one on the top right corner.

Really liking that uniform.

 

[Soriku]

Are all the demons in the boxart new designs? I loooove the one on the top right corner.

New designs, but some are recurring demons (the one directly below the top right one with the face on his chest is Raphael).

Ugh, can we not do this?

It's a joke. I like her design.

 

[buddha0991]

New designs, but some are recurring demons (the one directly below the top right one with the face on his chest is Raphael).

Which is terrible

 

[SteeloDMZ]

It looks badass to me!

 

[jorgeton]

So hyped. OMG.

 

[Zero-Crescent]

Maybe she's the super-secret superultramegaboss of the game who summons Seraph as a Persona.

...Or maybe she's Lilith trying her tricks again.

Or a reincarnation of Aleph. Or the secret identity of the Black Samurai. Or some combination of any of these theories.

 

[buddha0991]

Maybe shes a person possessed Maken...nah.

 

[Soriku]

lol, Hikaru apparently translates to "light" and some people are apparently speculating that she's Lucifer.

Really doubt Lucifer wouldn't be blonde, but I like the speculation that he'd be a school girl now.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Oh yeah, the sword that Tsugihagi is holding is the same as Masakado's.
So.
You know.

And his buddy is named Fujiwara...

lol, Hikaru apparently translates to "light" and some people are apparently speculating that she's Lucifer.

Really doubt Lucifer wouldn't be blonde, but I like the speculation that he'd be a school girl now.

Speculation: Lilith, Lucifer, or Amaterasu as the titular Goddess Reincarnated.
Or just some chick.

 

[buddha0991]

Hikaru is P3 MC free from the seal because no

Spoiler

i kid i kid

 

[Bullza2o]

Fujiwara's face shape looks kinda like Adachi from P4.

 

[Just take it with you.]

I read that as Serph, but Seraph is fine too

Actually, Seraph would make a neat superboss now that I think about it. A sort of payback for Demifiend's appearance in DDS.