Buy a Durango, trade your 360 for a mini. Done.
VG Leaks: BC for NextBox to be an add on, can play offline
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Buy a Durango, trade your 360 for a mini. Done.
dragonbane
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Or simply wait for the inevitable PS3 price drop and buy one of these.
That makes no sense. Common sense says it needs Internet to download arcade games and full digital downloads. Obviously due to having no disc drive.
Common sense is also why many people thought "always online" simply meant its capable of that...and not a requirement.
We shall see next month....HOPEFULLY!
naysayers won't get it.
Beer Monkey
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I'd imagine Gamestop will do special trade promos, a Mini should cost very little out of pocket and should be free if you are willing to go the Craigslist route.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Still paying extra. It's not free.
BlazingDarkness
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We don't know exactly how the Durango and XBOX Mini will connect with one another, I wouldn't rule out requiring internet just yet.
What do you mean? Will 360 with a disk drive not be worth more than one without simply on the fact that it can play retail copies of games?
Beer Monkey
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The out-of-pocket on the trade will probably cost about what re-buying one to three PS3 games for Gakai will cost.
Eclectic Jabber Monkey
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For me $150 is still cheaper than rebuying my entire game catalog on Gaikai. And I would sell my 360 and its accessories it would cover that cost. I would have to see what other options the 360mini would provide, like a TV tuner, etc, but if it adds some new media functionality the current 360 doesn't have I might consider it.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Not sure, but my guess is prices will plummet when the borked 360 is released.
You wouldn't rule it out because you want it to be a requirement?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Who is talking about PS3/Gaikai?
BlazingDarkness
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perineumlick
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Nah; I'll use my 360 till it dies. I'm leery of MS' hardware reliability anyway, seeing as I've gone through 6 360s this gen. I really want both next gen consoles day one, but I might have to take a wait and see approach with Durango.
This is really good news if this ends up being true. I have no interest in the next Xbox but I was getting nervous that the online required /no used game thing was true. If Microsoft was going down that route then Sony was going to have something similar. I hope both bring it at E3 and have some really awesome exclusives for both fanbases.
It doesn't matter to me personally. I'll either keep my 360 or trade it.
I think you're reaching though. It seems silly to think it needs Internet at all when attached to Durango. Don't you think the Network cable would just be hooked to the Durango in that case. Think about that for a second...needing both the mini and Durango connected at once seems silly.(if you have both)
I don't see why not, as the 360 Mini contains all the 360 hardware and Xbox BC was all done via software. That'll be quite the role reversal if Microsoft maintains multiple generations of BC (if we can call this solution BC) and Sony can only half-muster one generation.
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Breakfast at Noon
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yes but is there going to be more than just halo on it this time?
stackable?
My first thought on the new stackable system.
Interesting idea, but how many people will actually buy both instead of just the cheapo XboxTV bit? BC is pretty sweet, but I'm not going to buy a separate unit when I still have my old system.
BlazingDarkness
Member
I wouldn't rule it out because we know pretty much nothing about what the XBOX Mini hardware actually is.
Who's to say that this '3 minute disconnection' rumour for single player games wasn't a reference to Durango software, but was actually talking about 360 discs running on the Durango, and the 3 minute thing was referring to how long it would run without an active connection to the XBOX Mini? We don't know anything.
NullPointer
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So will MS continue to make the "fat" xbox along with the mini? Or is the mini the new face of the 360 moving forward?
Becuase if the mini is an online-required machine, they'd be turning the 360 into a defacto online-required platform. Except for the Durango.
You know what? Fuck it. I think I'll stop trying to piece together the sense of this thing until actual details come out.
But in the meanwhile, fuck online-requirements, wherever they may be, and the Gold fee for apps and multiplayer can go to hell right alongside it. Ads plastered everywhere can join those two as well.
Becuase if the mini is an online-required machine, they'd be turning the 360 into a defacto online-required platform. Except for the Durango.
You know what? Fuck it. I think I'll stop trying to piece together the sense of this thing until actual details come out.
But in the meanwhile, fuck online-requirements, wherever they may be, and the Gold fee for apps and multiplayer can go to hell right alongside it. Ads plastered everywhere can join those two as well.
HollovVpo1nt
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Xbox Mini = TV Box with the full catalogue of Xbox Live Arcade
Game center and Play store can't touch that.perineumlick
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Lol, some of you are really immature about this stuff. If anyone is not in complete rapture like you are you get all defensive. It's really ridiculous.
It's software wise, came installed on MS' brand HDD, but I won't hold my breath for Mini doing it.
If you think this is a good idea then im sorry but you are clearly crazy! If this is infact true anyway, but people are willing to spend say $150 even $100 on a device to add on to the new system to play your old 360 games on it? What am I missing here cause that is ludicrous to say the least. Is keeping your old 360 just that much of a hassle or what?
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
[Retail]
[Live Subsidized Subscription]
My price estimates might be screwy but yeah I expect these sort of options.
BlazingDarkness
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Xbox Mini = TV Box with the full catalogue of Xbox Live Arcade
Yep! And Durango owners get the benefit of being able to play 360 discs too, it's a really good strategy IMO.
Glorified G
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Because it's stupid. Why would you trade in your 360 that can play discs and use offline. Too lazy to push the power button the 360 and use that instead?
It was a swerve all along! I really hope that the required online connection is for this bc 360. Both EDGE & vgleaks have been proven to be correct in the past. I'm definitely looking forward to May 21st.
Aren't you just paying extra for something you already have? A 360?
purnoman3000
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Dark Octave
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Wait so BC and the requirement of this other unit also includes XBLA titles?
I don't know why I figured XBLA games would be held differently from AAA and disc based games but I'm not sure if I like that.
BlazingDarkness
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MS probably won't be marketing it as a 360, it'll be marketed as a TV box, and it'll be relatively cheap - that's the reason people will be buying it. It'll just happen to have the ability to play downloadable games (and discs, if you have the Durango.) Think of it like how Sony makes benefits for PS3+PSVita owners.
So why BC anyway right? Some people can't plug or have many consoles at time, or do we forgot all the No BC No Buy dudes complaining?
perineumlick
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I will be keeping my 360, but I don't begrudge people who like this option. At least it's an option, and not something built in that will increase the price of the console.
Beer Monkey
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XBLA titles are 360 titles.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Why wouldn't it? It's a smaller full 360 hardware unit
Yea I think the mini will likely be a future option for some. My 360 is dead, if I actually buy a durango, I think I might eventually pick up the mini just to play those 360 games I've missed.
I think it's great for people who invested a lot of money on xbla too.
Beer Monkey
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They should call it Arcade TV.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
XBOX TV
purnoman3000
Member
What's the point of this thing if there is no optical drive as the article claims? As someone who already owns a 360 with dozens of games, why would I want a bc add-on that won't actually let me play my own games
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I don't understand the hang up with PS4 not having backwards compatibility on the box. They're completely changing the architecture it runs on from the PS3... you don't just emulate that or wedge a second console inside the new one. Completely understandable in this situation, sometimes you have to start fresh.
Glorified G
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It's better than nothing for sure. I can see this appealing to people who never picked a 360 and want to access a few games. But I can't imagine why would any 360 owner have their whole library rendered to drm just because they don't want to use an extra plug.
Delusibeta
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Yo dawg, I heard you like consoles, so you have to buy a console for your console to play your old console games.
Calling bull on the "have to buy a Mini360 to get backwards compatibility for the new Xbox", that's some nineties Sega shit, and would defeat the point in backwards compatibility (i.e. the ability to trade in your old console to reduce the price of the new console yet still get to play your games for the old console). Slightly less dumb than Microsoft requiring an internet connection for their new console to work, but not by much.
If SuperDAE is the source, then it's bullshit.
Calling bull on the "have to buy a Mini360 to get backwards compatibility for the new Xbox", that's some nineties Sega shit, and would defeat the point in backwards compatibility (i.e. the ability to trade in your old console to reduce the price of the new console yet still get to play your games for the old console). Slightly less dumb than Microsoft requiring an internet connection for their new console to work, but not by much.
If SuperDAE is the source, then it's bullshit.