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[Tomcat]

Not everything is windows dude.

are you still using windows 95?

 

[Dibbz]

1GB for the OS sounds great. Hopefully they don't have the same problem as this gen where they shoehorned in game XMB but it was laggy.

 

[dmr87]

 

[Proelite]

That's 2 more than what devs get on Durango easily.

7 vs 5 is a bigger spec discrepancy than flops.

 

[mckmas8808]

All I'd like to do really in terms of using the system OS while playing a game is being able to change system settings on the fly. I hate how the PS3 asks you to quit a game to change the smallest thing like connecting a bluetooth headset. 1GB of RAM sounds like more than enough for the basics.

I want to get on the HTML5 enabled internet while gaming. Can 1 GB of ram do this?

 

[Derrick01]

512MB was taking into account a total of 4GB A bump to 8GB sort of does imply a bump in the OS reserve to 1GB, at least. Might as well.

Oh yeah you're right. Still leaves games with more than most will know what to do with thankfully.

 

[IHaveCandy]

We going to get clunky and slow OS again aren't we.

To put it in comparison, PS3 had 32 MB for the OS.

 

[JohnnySasaki86]

Looks like my prediction was correct.

1GB. Its simple answer IMO, they doubled the RAM, so I believe they'll double the OS footprint. Every other leak and rumor was spot on with the specs, therefor we can assume that the OS footprint at one time was definitely 512mb.

To put it in comparison, PS3 had 32 MB for the OS.

No...its closer to 50mb's. 360 is 32mb's I believe.

 

[daveo42]

It's about what I expected. The leaks said 512 I think but I doubt that was taking some features into account like the constant video recording. 1GB is reasonable.

It's still a good trade off considering the amount of ram they are getting. Could the bump to 1GB be because GDDR5 has a higher latency as opposed to DDR3?

 

[Reiko]

7GB of GDDR5 doesn't sound as good as 8GB of GDDR5. :/

You didn't really expect devs to get all 8GB GDDR5 did you? lol

 

[Durante]

That's very reasonable. Should be enough for a lot of OS functionality, though I actually expected them to reserve 2 GB (simply because they can).

 

[Napalm_Frank]

1GB for the OS sounds great. Hopefully they don't have the same problem as this gen where they shoehorned in game XMB but it was laggy.

It won't cause OS has a locked amount of RAM so it basically works like with Vita. You can use the OS full speed while game is suspended.

 

[Lord Error]

We going to get clunky and slow OS again aren't we.

Are you serious? If anything, 1GB is maybe even too much.

 

[keit4]

ps4daily seems a trustful source.

 

[i-Lo]

That's 2 more than what devs get on Durango easily.

With the rumour about "spec upgrade" for XB3, that number could have gone down. PS4 should have reserved 4GB for OS.

 

[The Elite]

I thought the operation system was using separate ram. Still, not a huge problem.

 

[Cornbread78]

You didn't really expect devs to get all 8GB GDDR5 did you? lol

Wait, give it all to them!

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Perfect! OS doesn't need anymore than 1GB. 7GB for gaming is godly!

 

[Sorral]

That's very reasonable. Should be enough for a lot of OS functionality, though I actually expected them to reserve 2 GB (simply because they can).

2GB?! eww no. >< There is no TV here!

 

[coldfoot]

I want to get on the HTML5 enabled internet while gaming. Can 1 GB of ram do this?

You can do that on an iPad mini with 512MB total RAM. 1GB is a good amount for OS and the right way to do things is to reserve as much as you think you will ever need and then slowly give it back with optimization.

 

[Reiko]

That's 2 more than what devs get on Durango easily.

7 vs 5 is a bigger spec discrepancy than flops.

Like I mentioned earlier it's going to be silly with PC and PS4 versions using 7GB of RAM and not Durango.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Niiice

 

[Napalm_Frank]

That's 2 more than what devs get on Durango easily.

7 vs 5 is a bigger spec discrepancy than flops.

Can somebody tell me if Proelite is just joking or seriously bashing Durango? AFAIK we don't even know yet if the 3GB for Durango OS was true?

 

[trmas]

My friends who work for MS told me to expect something along the lines of 12 GB of RAM in the next XBox - 4 of which is reserved for the OS. Basically, they said it is a memory hog and will be based on Windows 8. Expect to see interconnectivity with all of MS devices...

Seeing what an utter piece of crap W8 is, that isn't an encouraging thought.

 

[Dibbz]

Someone needs to shop Mark Cerny or Kaz onto this.

 

[Reiko]

Can somebody tell me if Proelite is just joking or seriously bashing Durango? AFAIK we don't even know yet if the 3GB for Durango OS was true?

Reverse psychology.

 

[McHuj]

IMO, that's the biggest discrepancy between the two rumored specs. Flop differences will translate to lower frame rates/resolutions.

Memory differences will affect the games state and all the assets.


I wonder how the reserve CPU core counts are going to settle as well.

 

[AgentP]

We going to get clunky and slow OS again aren't we.

Of course, being more than 10x in size and more than 6x in bandwidth than the PS3 it should be a dog. Not to mention BSD is so much slower than Windows.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Reverse psychology.

He should use it with more restraint then :lol.

 

[Square Triangle]

PS4daily? Lol

 

[SimpleGamer]

7GB of GDDR5 doesn't sound as good as 8GB of GDDR5. :/

But it doesn't sound as bad as 256mb

 

[Takuya]

That site.... is sketchy.

 

[Damian.]

1GB for the OS is pretty reasonable. Was expecting they they could work with much less though.

No. Future proof, don't let another crossgame chat fiasco happen again.

 

[coldfoot]

My friends who work for MS told me to expect something along the lines of 12 GB of RAM in the next XBox - 4 of which is reserved for the OS. Basically, they said it is a memory hog and will be based on Windows 8. Expect to see interconnectivity with all of MS devices...

Seeing what an utter piece of crap W8 is, that isn't an encouraging thought.

12 GB is devkits. For a mass produced device, going with more than 8GB greatly increases costs and motherboard complexity at the moment until we get higher density ram chips.

 

[Wishmaster92]

noooooooooo i wanted the whole 8gb for games (((((( lets hope sony reduces the os footprint like they did with the ps3 over time.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

As a complete technological ignoramus, does the persistent recording cut into the RAM?

 

[Durante]

I really think people are overestimating the immediate impact of one or two GB more once you get beyond 5GB. These systems aren't specced to really use that much memory effectively every frame. Most likely, it would only result in small loading time differences in the vast majority of cases.

As a complete technological ignoramus, does the persistent recording cut into the RAM?

That depends on how they implement it. It's a bit of a tradeoff between using more RAM and causing disk traffic more often.

 

[Demon Ice]

We going to get clunky and slow OS again aren't we.

Are you kidding me? If you want a clunky and slow OS look at the 360 Dashboard. I feel like I'm wading through molasses every time I use it.

PS3's is so snappy in comparison. Sony knows how to make a good console OS. Only using up 1 GB of the system RAM is lean as hell. Compare that to Durango's rumored 3 GB OS overhead.

 

[SniperHunter]

So I guess they decided to waste 512 mb on useless features

 

[Nibel]

WiiU Daily posted a bunch of fake rumors if I remember correctly

If PS4 Daily is from the same dude(s)..

 

[Tomcat]

My friends who work for MS told me to expect something along the lines of 12 GB of RAM in the next XBox - 4 of which is reserved for the OS. Basically, they said it is a memory hog and will be based on Windows 8. Expect to see interconnectivity with all of MS devices...

Seeing what an utter piece of crap W8 is, that isn't an encouraging thought.

obviously you haven't used windows 8. In fact win8 runs even better on low spec machines than win 7.

 

[coldfoot]

As a complete technological ignoramus, does the persistent recording cut into the RAM?

Yes, a little bit. But it will cut into the 1GB OS memory, not the 7GB developer memory.

 

[Ninja Moomin]

it just keeps getting better and better.

ps4 is going to be a beast

 

[XtremeXpider]

To put it in comparison, PS3 had 32 MB for the OS.

No, it is more than 32MB. Xbox 360 OS memory footprint is 32MB, PS3 is 50MB (43MB form main memory).

 

[Proelite]

My friends who work for MS told me to expect something along the lines of 12 GB of RAM in the next XBox - 4 of which is reserved for the OS. Basically, they said it is a memory hog and will be based on Windows 8. Expect to see interconnectivity with all of MS devices...

Seeing what an utter piece of crap W8 is, that isn't an encouraging thought.

Dev kits.

 

[D4Danger]

My friends who work for MS told me to expect something along the lines of 12 GB of RAM in the next XBox - 4 of which is reserved for the OS. Basically, they said it is a memory hog and will be based on Windows 8. Expect to see interconnectivity with all of MS devices...

Seeing what an utter piece of crap W8 is, that isn't an encouraging thought.

That's probably devkits if true but more importantly why would an embedded version of Windows need 4GB of memory? This is counter to everything Microsoft have done in the last 8 years or so with things like the MinWin project.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

To put it in comparison, PS3 had 32 MB for the OS.

It was initially 120mb but was reduced to 50mb in 2010. I don't believe they've reduced it since.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Are you kidding me? If you want a clunky and slow OS look at the 360 Dashboard. I feel like I'm wading through molasses every time I use it.

PS3's is so snappy in comparison. Sony knows how to make a good console OS. Only using up 1 GB of the system RAM is lean as hell. Compare that to Durango's rumored 3 GB OS overhead.

I dunno about 360 but PS3 OS during gameplay is pretty terrible so that is one improvement I am looking foreward to with PS4. Vita OS is godlike.

 

[McHuj]

My friends who work for MS told me to expect something along the lines of 12 GB of RAM in the next XBox - 4 of which is reserved for the OS. Basically, they said it is a memory hog and will be based on Windows 8. Expect to see interconnectivity with all of MS devices...

Seeing what an utter piece of crap W8 is, that isn't an encouraging thought.

If that's true, then the current leaked specs are wrong as 12 GB of RAM would require a 384-bit memory bus for 24 4Gb chips. We'll see.

 

[Foshy]

WiiU Daily posted a bunch of fake rumors if I remember correctly

If PS4 Daily is from the same dude(s)..

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=53554899&postcount=17

Pretty sure it is.

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