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[jonnyp]

Formula 1 for PSX had commentary.

It wasn't great, even taking into consideration the age of the game.

I thought the commentary was great considering the age, just limited in scope and execution. I would really love for a driving game to have lots and lots of commentary making it feel like a live event.

I loved Bizarre's Formula One game on the PS1, I played it sooooooooooo much.

 

[velociraptor]

30FPS for a racing game, whether it is sim or arcade, sucks full stop.

 

[BradleyLove]

I really miss the PS2 days when the architecture actually favoured 60fps games. So much 60fps goodness on PS2

Architecture had nothing to do with it. 30 or 60 is a design decision. End of.

Forza Horizon could easily be 60 if they were willing to sacrifice graphics. Ditto for PGR, NFS and so on.

 

[Kyoufu]

Gran Turismo is 60fps right? And it still looks incredible. Why can't other racers do that too?

 

[EvB]

Gran Turismo is 60fps right? And it still looks incredible. Why can't other racers do that too?

Gran Turismo on PS1 was only 60FPS on a particular track I remember.

The more Recent ones have been a mixed bag with framerates all over the place depending on which mode you are in and whether or not you are racing other vehicles.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Gran Turismo is 60fps right? And it still looks incredible. Why can't other racers do that too?

The IQ of GT5 suffered greatly.

 

[SolidSnakex]

The IQ of GT5 suffered greatly.

It's one of the very few PS3 games that runs at 4xMSAA, and I believe that it's the only internally developed game that has that AA.

 

[iceatcs]

The IQ of GT5 suffered greatly.

Not really, it is one of best IQ PS3 game.
I think it is more because of just racing track. No need deep animations, other things etc.

 

[Metalmurphy]

It's one of the very few PS3 games that runs at 4xMSAA, and I believe that it's the only internally developed game that has that AA.

Warhawk and Genji


*edit* No wait, Genji was QAA. Warhawk and some PSN games iirc.

 

[amar212]

Gran Turismo on PS1 was only 60FPS on a particular track I remember..

50fps, GT Hi-Fi mode, only one car on of the night tracks (all skyscrapers were killed from the scenery, but it looked buttery-smooth).

 

[Diablohead]

50fps, GT Hi-Fi mode, only one car on of the night tracks (all skyscrapers were killed from the scenery, but it looked buttery-smooth).

Think it also ran at a slightly better resolution too, I used to love watching replays in that mode.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Warhawk and Genji


*edit* No wait, Genji was QAA. Warhawk and some PSN games iirc.

No surprise that they're early generation games. Most internal devs used 2xMSAA or one of the newer techniques. I believe that 4xMSAA eats up a lot of RAM, which is why third party devs drop it from multiplatform games even when the 360 version has that type of AA.

 

[Betrayer of hope]

I would laugh if this game was 30fps.

The IQ of GT5 suffered greatly.

only in your dreams

 

[Kyoufu]

I would laugh if this game was 30fps.

Of course you would.

 

[Metalmurphy]

I would laugh if this game was 30fps.

You can start laughing, it will be.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I would laugh if this game was 30fps.



only in your dreams

Why? Kutaragi designed the PS3 and the overwhelming majority of racing games ran at 30fps. Including all Sony developed racing games with the exception of GT.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

It's one of the very few PS3 games that runs at 4xMSAA, and I believe that it's the only internally developed game that has that AA.

Well I must need my eyes checked, there was enough aliasing, texture shimmering/filtering issues to put me off. It looks 10x better during replay.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Well I must need my eyes checked, there was enough aliasing, texture shimmering/filtering issues to put me off. It looks 10x better during replay.

There are no AA changes between replay or normal gameplay. Nor are there any model swaps.

Photo Travel does run at native 1080p with model swaps but again, no AA changes.



That said, GT does have it's aliasing problems. ( http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4807/dodgyalpha1jpg.jpg ) but it's do to it's low resolution alpha effects (rain/dust/smoke), other then that it's one of the cleanest games this generation. It's worth noting that the game also uses TemporalAA and as such it's not visible in screenshots.

 

[amar212]

Why? Kutaragi designed the PS3 and the overwhelming majority of racing games ran at 30fps. Including all Sony developed racing games with the exception of GT.

It also has to be said how Evolution developed Formula One Championship with 60fps at mind and then apparently ditched it for skylight effects.

However, it is shame how those same skylights (late afternoon ones) made game literally unplayable in Time Trial mode due to absolute blinding that HDR produced.

Vanilla should make some direct-capture shots of F1:CE, that game still have some of the greatest F1 modelling ever seen in business.

 

[Chuck Norris]

There are no AA changes between replay or normal gameplay. Nor are there any model swaps.

Photo Travel does run at native 1080p with model swaps but again, no AA changes.



That said, GT does have it's aliasing problems. ( http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4807/dodgyalpha1jpg.jpg ) but it's do to it's low resolution alpha effects (rain/dust/smoke), other then that it's one of the cleanest games this generation. It's worth noting that the game also uses TemporalAA and as such it's not visible in screenshots.

How did that get through development?

 

[Metalmurphy]

How did that get through development?

It's not exactly something that slipped QA, it's an hardware limitation. Several games have the same issue.

 

[Chuck Norris]

It's not exactly something that slipped QA, it's an hardware limitation. Several games have the same issue.

I mean, surely they could have found a better balance? I would have taken higher resolution alpha effects for a maximum of 720p instead of pseudo 1080p. I'm sure most would agree

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

It also has to be said how Evolution developed Formula One Championship with 60fps at mind and then apparently ditched it for skylight effects.

However, it is shame how those same skylights (late afternoon ones) made game literally unplayable in Time Trial mode due to absolute blinding that HDR produced.

Vanilla should make some direct-capture shots of F1:CE, that game still have some of the greatest F1 modelling ever seen in business.

Not bad for a launch title - F1 2012 by Studio Liverpool would have been something special if it wasn't for that fucking horrible little troll.


And those god rays are indeed terrible, but thankfully they can be disabled, in fact all the lighting and gfx effects can be changed as each track has 4 text files with all the data.

Disabled:

 

[velociraptor]

Wow, F1 CE sure is a beaut.

 

[Xanadu]

The IQ of GT5 suffered greatly.

it did indeed

 

[saladine1]

Poor Driveclub.

 

[AstroNut325]

30FPS for a racing game, whether it is sim or arcade, sucks full stop.

That's my opinion as well. Drive Club is a must have title for me now. But if it's 30fps... I'm not going to even bother renting it.

In racing, and fighting games... 60 frames per second or don't bother.

 

[NullPointer]

I didn't even realize Forza Horizon was 30fps. Goes to show unnoticeable it is outside of a side-by-side comparison.

I can notice it but its so damn solid it doesn't matter. I'd still prefer 60fps, but if its as locked as Horizon I'd be OK with 30fps if that meant more driving conditions and dynamic effects (lighting, weather, snow, etc).

 

[Endo Punk]

I can notice it but its so damn solid it doesn't matter. I'd still prefer 60fps, but if its as locked as Horizon I'd be OK with 30fps if that meant more driving conditions and dynamic effects (lighting, weather, snow, etc).

But that shouldn't be a problem on the PS4. I mean if DriveClub couldn't achieve lighting, weather and dynamic effects at consistent 60fps in 1080p then that really reflects badly on the system.

 

[Totobeni]

Wow, F1 CE sure is a beaut.

and still best F1 game this gen.

 

[ruttyboy]

and still best F1 game this gen.

Does it have wheel support do you know (G27)?

 

[Kafel]

With this big focus on online play, am I the only one to think it will be the first PS4 game to be offered with PS+ ? (maybe even at launch)

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

Does it have wheel support do you know (G27)?

Yes, the force feedback is cranked up to the max so you need a solid base to mount your wheel and some ear plugs.

and still best F1 game this gen.

 

[ruttyboy]

Yes, the force feedback is cranked up to the max so you need a solid base to mount your wheel and some ear plugs.

Thanks, I might try to root out a copy then.

Edit: Just used some of my Amazon credit to get it for £3.77 delivered!

 

[Xanadu]

I can notice it but its so damn solid it doesn't matter. I'd still prefer 60fps, but if its as locked as Horizon I'd be OK with 30fps if that meant more driving conditions and dynamic effects (lighting, weather, snow, etc).

to me its so noticeable, the fluidity of 60fps is second to none, well..apart from 120

 

[SolidSnakex]

This probably won't come as a surprise

@Rushy33 Can we expect some off-road racing in DriveClub or we will have to wait for another MotorStorm for that??? #DriveClub

@SSJNeBiRoS #DRIVECLUB will be sticking to the roads for all of its racing action.

https://twitter.com/Rushy33/status/327387764754636800

 

[AstroNut325]

This probably won't come as a surprise





https://twitter.com/Rushy33/status/327387764754636800

I'm ok with this! Just make it 60fps!

 

[Saberus]

I'm ok with this! Just make it 60fps!

Yeah, rather them get this out as a launch title than muck around with it. And with stuff they prob never intended. Who knows maybe a Dlc in the future.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

New details coming soon:

DRIVECLUB ‏@driveclub 25m

We’ve just been at the Supercar dealership of @Matt_Loughran_ to measure up some amazing cars for #DRIVECLUB. What's your dream car?

DRIVECLUB ‏@driveclub 9h

We can't really say much right now, but we'll be revealing details of customization soon. Stay tuned.

 

[Kyoufu]

New details coming soon:

Hmm. So they're not saving this stuff for E3? Either way, yay, more DriveClub info.

 

[saladine1]

New details coming soon:

Did I read customization?

Interesting.

 

[B.O.O.M]

Hmm. So they're not saving this stuff for E3? Either way, yay, more DriveClub info.

Maybe they think a month or so is 'soon'

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

F1:CE still has the best rain on lens effect i've ever seen. I fired it up the other day and it holds up remarkably for a launch game.

 

[Metalmurphy]

Did I read customization?

Interesting.

We already say cars with team paintings, there was bound to be some. I don't think we'll see something as complex as Forza livery editor though.

 

[i-Lo]

We already say cars with team paintings, there was bound to be some. I don't think we'll see something as complex as Forza livery editor though.

I think the customization being talked here about may pertain to the machinery.

 

[saladine1]

We already say cars with team paintings, there was bound to be some. I don't think we'll see something as complex as Forza livery editor though.

When people say customization, they usually lump performance and visual mods in with livery and paint. I don't know whether that's implied here or not.
I'm more interested in performance modifications and visual enhancements such as wheels, kits..etc. rather than livery painting.

I guess we'll have to wait and see..

 

[sunnz]

I do hope there is more to the game than team v team race track only racing or just general race track only, talk about average...

I just wish they pushed more for an open world driving game with friends than this, but with actually good physics and an MMO ( so TDU, but much better physics, graphics and more focused on driving, racing and cars)

 

[reminder]

and still best F1 game this gen.

I'm still sad that Sony gave up the F1 license.

 

[famousmortimer]

I do hope there is more to the game than team v team race track only racing or just general race track only, talk about average...

I just wish they pushed more for an open world driving game with friends than this, but with actually good physics and an MMO ( so TDU, but much better physics, graphics and more focused on driving, racing and cars)

I loved TDU despite its jank and would love to see another game like that... but I wouldn't expect that here.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Honda NSX! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease!