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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | April 2013 | Sacrifice your Independent Soul
- Thread starter The Grim Heaper
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EsotericManiac
Banned
Narration with unison 2 voices coupled with the artwork is tight. Character acting 'eh'. Not bad imo. Will play with Japanese come release.
Glad to see a nice quality title but after this year no idea about vita future. Hardware is slick, software I'm set for a good while but wheres the beef? New ff dissidia? gran turismo?
Glad to see a nice quality title but after this year no idea about vita future. Hardware is slick, software I'm set for a good while but wheres the beef? New ff dissidia? gran turismo?
corrosivefrost
Member
Love that I'm not the only one.
I went over to the PS Store update thread to commiserate with fellow angry US customers and saw this.
Fucking spot on.
BlackLagoon
Member
The actors sound like professionals, but it doesn't sound like the voice director is giving them the appropriate context of the scenes. I'd guess this is recorded in the UK, by a studio without much experience at this type of work. Ultimately it falls on Sony's producer for not making sure the end result was better though.
Grace Chen and the PSN store team doesn't actually work for any branch of SCE - they're under Sony Network Entertainment 
CaptainTiptop
Member
You're brave. Let us know!
famousmortimer
Banned
The PSP version was very good.
corrosivefrost
Member
The actors sound like professionals, but it doesn't sound like the voice director is giving them the appropriate context of the scenes. I'd guess this is recorded in the UK, by a studio without much experience at this type of work. Ultimately it falls on Sony's producer for not making sure the end result was better though.
Grace Chen and the PSN store team doesn't actually work for any branch of SCE - they're under Sony Network Entertainment
Regardless of who she works for...
Still unacceptable.
EsotericManiac
Banned
you should read the comments, helps past the time
some are demanding free games! lol
michaelius
Banned
EsotericManiac
Banned
lol, do you have a link?
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013...t-today-saves-transfer-to-full-game/#comments
it's over 100 pages, start reading around page 50+ or so
at this rate, it will be over 9000 lol
Gamers are passionate consumers of their medium who are ready to throw money at the product's they love; yet, oddly enough, SONY continues to fumble around with their content delivery service at the risk of upsetting loyal consumers.
If you got let down a few times by a brick and mortar store not having product on a declared release day, wouldn't you eventually stop relying on said store?
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
Because a demo hasnt come out? lol. Thats almost as bad as the smartphone games stores that have people bitch a game is to expensive at £1.99 and should be free and calling the devs greedy.
The world makes me SMH sometimes.
michaelius
Banned
That only works in the free market - console ecosystems are pure monopolies.
Selling console and replacing it with competitor would be hundreds of dollars of sunk costs in games , digital content, accessories etc.
" Ok Guys look, just copy and paste this
We (the gamers), want the Playstation Store updated by 12:00 this afternoon, Sony you have let us down 1 too many times in the past and we bought your Ps Vita out off the hope that you would support your system, which you have not to the tiniest degree, you have loaded the system with blockades and limits, and have only given us gimmicks, we want results, otherwise, if after 12:00 this afternoon if the Playstation Store is not updated and you do not give us answers, all the players will log off PSN, perminently.
These are our demands
Update the Playstation Store
Give us answers to our questions, stop beating around the bush
Persuade devs to support the Ps Vita, if that means pay them to develope software for it, then so-be-it
Remove the stupid restrictions from the Ps Vita, you have to see this is stopping people from buying the system
Support your Gamers, you never have, and if you dont this time, you WILL pay for it "
LOL
HiddenAway
Member
You can change the character's looks and clothes a short ways into the demo.
id maybe stop relying on it (and go elsewhere)
but would i picket outside the store screaming obscenities and trashing the business because i couldnt get a VIDEO GAME on the day it was supposed to be out?
no
its a video game
a hobby
noonespecial
Member
I've been reading some of those comments in the other thread but it got old. 
Ultimately, yeah, it is ridiculous that this happened to begin with and US customers are disappointed and some some people are whining quite a bit, however...
Sony is a business, they themselves made announcements of when certain things would be happening, some of which (like the Soul Sacrifice demo's release) are a very big deal to Vita owners, and ultimately in any business an unexpected outage like this is a very bad thing to happen.
I work in IT and know that even systems designed to have zero downtime do, in fact, sometimes have unexpected downtime. Things break and people screw up and make mistakes.
So I can understand (to a degree) that things like this can happen in any service, however, this should have the full attention of Sony to immediately correct and it should be spawning a very serious and in-depth review of all of their current processes and procedures and they should be revising or correcting them to make sure this doesn't happen again.
But, I don't have high hopes myself that a business should actually act responsible to its customers because, well, SCEA...
rant: am I the only one who grows tired of the dumbass excuses people give to defend large corporations when major services like this go down? I can definitely understand that this can happen from time to time, but the "lol they're just video games - go read a book instead" reasoning is bullshit to me. Yes, I definitely understand these are "video games" but this is still a business providing a service to customers. The importance and intrinsic value a customer places on a service's availability is not reduced simply because it is for "video games". Sorry for my rant but that attitude pisses me off. Part of the way in which Americans seem as a society to view video games as being "childish". So where were all of the people saying "lol just football" when the lights went out in New Orleans for the Superbowl? /rant
Ultimately, yeah, it is ridiculous that this happened to begin with and US customers are disappointed and some some people are whining quite a bit, however...
Sony is a business, they themselves made announcements of when certain things would be happening, some of which (like the Soul Sacrifice demo's release) are a very big deal to Vita owners, and ultimately in any business an unexpected outage like this is a very bad thing to happen.
I work in IT and know that even systems designed to have zero downtime do, in fact, sometimes have unexpected downtime. Things break and people screw up and make mistakes.
So I can understand (to a degree) that things like this can happen in any service, however, this should have the full attention of Sony to immediately correct and it should be spawning a very serious and in-depth review of all of their current processes and procedures and they should be revising or correcting them to make sure this doesn't happen again.
But, I don't have high hopes myself that a business should actually act responsible to its customers because, well, SCEA...
rant: am I the only one who grows tired of the dumbass excuses people give to defend large corporations when major services like this go down? I can definitely understand that this can happen from time to time, but the "lol they're just video games - go read a book instead" reasoning is bullshit to me. Yes, I definitely understand these are "video games" but this is still a business providing a service to customers. The importance and intrinsic value a customer places on a service's availability is not reduced simply because it is for "video games". Sorry for my rant but that attitude pisses me off. Part of the way in which Americans seem as a society to view video games as being "childish". So where were all of the people saying "lol just football" when the lights went out in New Orleans for the Superbowl?
/rant
noonespecial
Member
I have not played the demo and I could be wrong but I remember seeing on YouTube in a video someone made about the JP version of the game that you could basically change your costume anytime you wanted. I think you may just need to "unlock" certain things to wear, but you can completely change your clothes, appearance (even gender) whenever you want and with no penalties. At least that's what I understand...
gaming = serious business (confirmed)
My Soul is ready!
Meanwhile...
At least you guys don't have to wait till the 27th of May for a physical release :/
One of the reasons I pre-ordered via PSN. Lower than retailer for some reason and releasing on the 30/4 according to the store's blirp.
Sad part is that people actually started posting that lol.
Love how the demands go from just doing a service to force the vita to become a success.
'I want a cheese burger ... and then have the president hand over the country to me!'
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I've been reading some of those comments in the other thread but it got old.
Ultimately, yeah, it is ridiculous that this happened to begin with and US customers are disappointed and some some people are whining quite a bit, however...
Sony is a business, they themselves made announcements of when certain things would be happening, some of which (like the Soul Sacrifice demo's release) are a very big deal to Vita owners, and ultimately in any business an unexpected outage like this is a very bad thing to happen.
I work in IT and know that even systems designed to have zero downtime do, in fact, sometimes have unexpected downtime. Things break and people screw up and make mistakes.
So I can understand (to a degree) that things like this can happen in any service, however, this should have the full attention of Sony to immediately correct and it should be spawning a very serious and in-depth review of all of their current processes and procedures and they should be revising or correcting them to make sure this doesn't happen again.
But, I don't have high hopes myself that a business should actually act responsible to its customers because, well, SCEA...
rant: am I the only one who grows tired of the dumbass excuses people give to defend large corporations when major services like this go down? I can definitely understand that this can happen from time to time, but the "lol they're just video games - go read a book instead" reasoning is bullshit to me. Yes, I definitely understand these are "video games" but this is still a business providing a service to customers. The importance and intrinsic value a customer places on a service's availability is not reduced simply because it is for "video games". Sorry for my rant but that attitude pisses me off. Part of the way in which Americans seem as a society to view video games as being "childish". So where were all of the people saying "lol just football" when the lights went out in New Orleans for the Superbowl?
This is the only good thing that can come of this. If they come out of this learning or doing nothing then it is a terrible missed opportunity. Mistakes are only a bad thing if nothing is taken away from them to make something better.
Yup, you can change your characters looks shortly after you clear a certain mission in the first chapter. IIRC you could even change gender.
Thing about Sony is that they truly have yet to learn their lesson. After the hack two years ago they kept quiet until everything blew up. You'd think, you'd THINK, that they would be a little more vocal about the things they're doing and quit being so Japanese about everything. Their marketing strategies, way of thinking and overall business has kicked their ass this generation.
They need to learn that over here you need to spend money to make money, especially marketing stuff to people that don't went know what your system is.
/good morning everyone.
They need to learn that over here you need to spend money to make money, especially marketing stuff to people that don't went know what your system is.
/good morning everyone.
God forbid they take this time to play the many, many games that are no doubt sitting in their backlogs while they wait for the store to update...
I wanted to try out Soul Sacrifice, and buy Dragon Fantasy Book I and GTA: Vice City Stories PSP yesterday, but I couldn't. I didn't bitch about it. Instead, I wrapped up the Platinum for Guacamelee, ate dinner, and played some Silent Hill: Downpour (so far, so good; I'm cautiously optimistic, but the game is much better than Homecoming in every way already). If the store still isn't up by the time I get home from work, I'll probably play some more Silent Hill, or Tomb Raider reboot.
On the Vita front, I have Persona 4, and Stranger's Wrath I'm still getting through. I got plenty to play that not being able to get 2 games and a demo isn't going to kill me. I'm a grown ass man, why go apeshit over stuff like this?
I wanted to try out Soul Sacrifice, and buy Dragon Fantasy Book I and GTA: Vice City Stories PSP yesterday, but I couldn't. I didn't bitch about it. Instead, I wrapped up the Platinum for Guacamelee, ate dinner, and played some Silent Hill: Downpour (so far, so good; I'm cautiously optimistic, but the game is much better than Homecoming in every way already). If the store still isn't up by the time I get home from work, I'll probably play some more Silent Hill, or Tomb Raider reboot.
On the Vita front, I have Persona 4, and Stranger's Wrath I'm still getting through. I got plenty to play that not being able to get 2 games and a demo isn't going to kill me. I'm a grown ass man, why go apeshit over stuff like this?
Dimensional Weave
Neo Member
With great games comes the fine tuning of such things. So take a pill, read the book, and please refrain from such incestuous chatter.
I've been reading some of those comments in the other thread but it got old.
Ultimately, yeah, it is ridiculous that this happened to begin with and US customers are disappointed and some some people are whining quite a bit, however...
Sony is a business, they themselves made announcements of when certain things would be happening, some of which (like the Soul Sacrifice demo's release) are a very big deal to Vita owners, and ultimately in any business an unexpected outage like this is a very bad thing to happen.
I work in IT and know that even systems designed to have zero downtime do, in fact, sometimes have unexpected downtime. Things break and people screw up and make mistakes.
So I can understand (to a degree) that things like this can happen in any service, however, this should have the full attention of Sony to immediately correct and it should be spawning a very serious and in-depth review of all of their current processes and procedures and they should be revising or correcting them to make sure this doesn't happen again.
But, I don't have high hopes myself that a business should actually act responsible to its customers because, well, SCEA...
rant: am I the only one who grows tired of the dumbass excuses people give to defend large corporations when major services like this go down? I can definitely understand that this can happen from time to time, but the "lol they're just video games - go read a book instead" reasoning is bullshit to me. Yes, I definitely understand these are "video games" but this is still a business providing a service to customers. The importance and intrinsic value a customer places on a service's availability is not reduced simply because it is for "video games". Sorry for my rant but that attitude pisses me off. Part of the way in which Americans seem as a society to view video games as being "childish". So where were all of the people saying "lol just football" when the lights went out in New Orleans for the Superbowl?
i would have said the same thing for something as stupid as a football game too
its not exclusive to video games at all
if i lose electricity at home, thats sucks, but until it hits several days and im literally losing all my food, its not RAGE worthy.. its just not
like i would love to see people go out and have some real fuckin issues. then we can talk
so yeah, it IS just lol video games
i love gaming to death, but my passion ends before getting angry about something like this. i just have too many other things in life to worry about, and i guess its just sad others dont seem too
but this IS the internet so these same people IRL probably dont care THAT much, there just trolling
The Grim Heaper
Member
They're just all entitled brats!!
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
This reaches beyond the consumer which has the right to be upset. You think it would be okay if every Best Buy and Gamestop was unable to sell Injustice yesterday because of some issue? This is also affecting publishers and perhaps more importantly developers very negatively. I feel sorry for the developer of Dragon Fantasy because they are the ones getting really burned by this. Also we got guys at Zeboyd and potentially other small devs looking to bring their titles to PSN and who knows how things like this affect their decisions.
The US PSN isn't actually down, right? It's just a lack of an update?
I would be more inclined to agree if the service had outright stopped working or inhibited the consumer's ability to play the games they already own. Instead, people are complaining because they cannot access a very tiny amount of content, and for the majority of complaints, the piece of content they want is a free demo. That seems pretty disproportionate. I'd agree with the other part of your post though - a company like Sony should have realised by now that they need to step back and rethink the way they handle their store infrastructure.
Woops.
The Grim Heaper
Member
Yes. Down most of yesterday with no information from Sony, and still no update with no information from Sony.
Which is why only indie devs actually listen to the fans.
dude, why didn't you spell check , look at the comments
"Yeah.. That threat looks like it was written by a 12 year old(Although, I realize at that age, anything is possible.) But typos and such.. it’s very empty. :/ Just trade your Vita for a 3DS and move on if you’re really that emotionally affected. I can wait.. it is definitely very disappointing though."
CaptainTiptop
Member
What 'stupid restrictions' is that comment from the blog talking about? When people complain vaguely about stuff like that I assume they mean 'I can't install CFW and get free shit waaahh', although I guess it could refer to memory card prices or PSP games missing from the store or something.
noonespecial
Member
Yeah! I hear ya! I'm not losing my cool over this either. I was only trying to say that I personally don't appreciate it when other people tell me what is important to me. I know what is important to me and nobody else does (well, except my wife and children).
And the bigger picture is that Sony is a business and it is interesting (I mean in a bad way) that this sort of service outage seems to be acceptable to Sony, their content providers, and even (EDIT: some of their) customers. Wish the businesses that are customers to my company were this laid back about outages - they give us hell whenever anything happens - even for trivial stuff. I'm still quite new to console gaming as I had been gaming exclusively on PC between 1990 and 2010 and only recently got a 3DS and a Vita and had thus not been exposed to NoA or SCEA until the past couple of years.
Like I said - just interesting to me that certain customers of a service can be very defensive of the service provider (Sony in this case) when that service is unavailable just because those customers so happen to be video gamers. As anyone who works in IT who may be aware of ITIL may know, this is *NOT* how a service should be run regardless of whether its serving tacos or video game infrastructure.
Sure, it's absolutely key to maintain your perspective and, thus, composure; after all, these issues are simply "first-world problems".
That said, is it really so wrong to call out the huge missteps of one of the leading brands related to a line of product's you're interested in? My day/world/life wasn't in any danger of ending b/c the PlayStation Store didn't update on time; but, on the same token, I've been a big fan of the PlayStation brand for 15+ years of my life, so it's disappointing to see SONY fumble around with it so frequently to the point that it's severely affecting their bottom line, thus the strength of the brand that I have a lengthy history with.
People who take their disappointments and generate absurd, unreasonable statements may be considered "entitled brats"; but consumers who stand behind a brand and offer valid, reasonable opinions and constructive criticisms are enthusiasts, and every form of "hobby" has them.
For those who remember how bare-bones the PS3's O/S was at launch, much of its metamorphosis into its current state is a result of reasonable enthusiasts voicing their opinions regarding their expectations.