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[Paskil]

I'm not personally mad about the store not being updated. I posted several comments that were meant to be humorous in the other thread, but I have plenty of games to play on multiple platforms. This is still unacceptable though. If I showed up to my job at whatever time I deemed appropriate instead of adherring to a schedule, I would lose my job. If I ran a storefront on main street and never maintained regular hours, or burned my customers regularly, I would be out of business after several months.

The fact that it is only the NA store that doesn't have a static update time is very telling and quite frankly is embarrassing. It's obvious that this is a unique circumstance since the update isn't up yet, but this goes far beyond that. It took several hours for Morgan to send a tweet that he was trying to get an update about the update, regarding the update. There was zero communication prior to that.

The reason people get up in arms vary. For some, it is entitlement and simply a "mememegimmemememe" mentality. I spend hundreds, to thousands of dollars a year on on video games and it is a slap in the face that they cannot respect us enough to talk to us or give us a static update time (notwithstanding situations like this).

Top of page recommendation: Buy Dragon Fantasy Book 1 (at some point GCT for us in NA), and try the Soul Sacrifice demo. Also, buy Guacamelee!

Just for Toto: Get Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure!

 

[btkadams]

it's not about entitlement at all. the people who say that bother me far more than any belated store update. sony cannot do what every other online store does. they are not at the level of their competitors. it's pathetic and they should be called out on it as much as possible.

 

[The Grim Heaper]

Whelp. Scratch my entire post then.

nice avatar

tsk tsk mono

and thanks i did it myself

Spoiler

no i didn't you made it thanks

it's not about entitlement at all. the people who say that bother me far more than any belated store update. sony cannot do what every other online store does. they are not at the level of their competitors. it's pathetic and they should be called out on it as much as possible.

i was joking when i said entitled btw

;_;

 

[Paskil]

it's not about entitlement at all. the people who say that bother me far more than any belated store update. sony cannot do what every other online store does. they are not at the level of their competitors. it's pathetic and they should be called out on it as much as possible.

Correct, but if you read some of the comments on the blog and in the forum, they sound like whiny children that should have been beaten by their parents more often. Voicing criticism and offering constructive feedback is one thing, some people just come across in a very bratty manner.

 

[btkadams]

i was joking when i said entitled btw

;_;

oh i'm just hopping into the thread now. not pointing fingers at anyone. no worries! i just see that all the time regarding psn updates.

 

[danthefan]

I can't get onto the EU store at the moment, is this what happens when it's updating?

 

[btkadams]

Correct, but if you read some of the comments on the blog and in the forum, they sound like whiny children that should have been beaten by their parents more often. Voicing criticism and offering constructive feedback is one thing, some people just come across in a very bratty manner.

of course! but is a bad thing no longer bad because someone is a stupid brat complaining about it? there are always going to be entitled people with consumer products. it doesn't mean that all people who are pissed off about the psn updates are entitled. these blanket statements are thrown out constantly. that's what i'm arguing against. being pissed off that sony runs a poor service in comparison to other companies is completely valid.

once again, i have no idea who in particular has said this in the thread (and don't care to look), so this is not directed at any poster in particular.

 

[VanWinkle]

It's just frustrating, because no other digital content outlet has to make people wonder when they're going to get content. Not even most other SCE regions. Why on earth should there be a "4-8pm" time? It would be better if they just made it 8pm so nobody has to wonder, because the store seems to update anywhere from 2PM EST (11AM PST) to around 11PM EST (8PM PST). Then there's things like this which are even crazier. Just give us a set time. Let us know WHEN it's going to publish so people aren't going crazy wondering when the update will be up. It makes them seem totally incompetent.

 

[Totobeni]

Seeing how Nintendo is supporting and pushing 3DS it just worm the heart,3DS don't really need any extra push since it got MonHun and Pokemon coming soon but Nintendo is doing all they can to please the fans with mega announcements every now and then,on the other Sony can't even do a demo right.

But is it just now? Sony just gave up on Psvita few months after release(remember E3 2012) they treat the Vita as an unwanted device and Vita owners as 3rd class citizens compared PS3 and PS3 owners,it's just sad, Nintendo go and publish a niche 3rd party game that didn't sell that well by themselves on 3DS,Sony go and port Vita exclusives to PS3,Nintendo give 3DS their biggest IP and hunt more and more exclusives, Sony give PS3 (instead of Vita) more games it don't really need seeing PS4 is coming later this year.

What this really tell me is that there is a company care so much about their handheld and their fans who own the thing and their is company that don't give a fuck about their handheld and the owners of it,Is this because of House and Shu Yoshida? yes but it's also a the general strategy of the company right now, in the end Sony don't care about Vita and every thing they do in the past year prove that, my question why should I keep holding the system when Sony tell me its just something they throw just because.

 

[Paskil]

Seeing how Nintendo is supporting and pushing 3DS it just worm the heart,3DS don't really need any extra push since it got MonHun and Pokemon coming soon but Nintendo is doing all they can to please the fans with mega announcements every now and then,on the other Sony can't even do a demo right.

But is it just now? Sony just gave up on Psvita few months after release(remember E3 2012) they treat the Vita as an unwanted device and Vita owners as 3rd class citizens compared PS3 and PS3 owners,it's just sad, Nintendo go and publish a niche 3rd party game that didn't sell that well by themselves on 3DS,Sony go and port Vita exclusives to PS3,Nintendo give 3DS their biggest IP and hunt more and more exclusives, Sony give PS3 (instead of Vita) more games it don't really need seeing PS4 is coming later this year.

What this really tell me is that there is a company care so much about their handheld and their fans who own the thing and their is company that don't give a fuck about their handheld and the owners of it,Is this because of House and Shu Yoshida? yes but it's also a the general strategy of the company right now, in the end Sony don't care about Vita and every thing they do in the past year prove that, my question why should I keep holding the system when Sony tell me its just something they throw just because.

I'll withhold judgment as to whether Sony has given up on the Vita until I see E3 and see if they actually follow through with their intention of making most PS4 games stream onto Vita. I personally have no complaints about Vita because I have gotten thousands of hours of enjoyment from it. If I can stream PS4 games on it, even better. It would be sad to see them abandon it, but tbh, I really don't see that happening.

 

[corrosivefrost]

Because a demo hasnt come out? lol. Thats almost as bad as the smartphone games stores that have people bitch a game is to expensive at £1.99 and should be free and calling the devs greedy.

The world makes me SMH sometimes.

It's not just about the demo. People with Injustice can't get their stuff either, I think. It's an inconvenience for a lot of people, not just Vita owners who want to play Soul Sacrifice.

Funny, you don't really hear about SCEE or SCEJ regions having these types of problems though...

It's just frustrating, because no other digital content outlet has to make people wonder when they're going to get content. Not even most other SCE regions. Why on earth should there be a "4-8pm" time? It would be better if they just made it 8pm so nobody has to wonder, because the store seems to update anywhere from 2PM EST (11AM PST) to around 11PM EST (8PM PST). Then there's things like this which are even crazier. Just give us a set time. Let us know WHEN it's going to publish so people aren't going crazy wondering when the update will be up. It makes them seem totally incompetent.

Seem implies they aren't incompetent.
After how many years now of weekly updates (3+?), you would think they'd have learned from each week and gotten a procedure in place for this stuff. Even if they have a procedure though, it's obviously NOT working for them.
Then you compare the performance of the NA store to the EU store and JP store and see it's only this region that suffers from it.
They are incompetent. Period.

Seeing how Nintendo is supporting and pushing 3DS it just worm the heart,3DS don't really need any extra push since it got MonHun and Pokemon coming soon but Nintendo is doing all they can to please the fans with mega announcements every now and then,on the other Sony can't even do a demo right.

I'm not defending Sony here, and yeah, it's admirable that the 3DS is getting first party support (and some good third party support). But I still don't have any interest in the system. There was once a time when I would have bought a 3DS XL today, immediately, in prep for the new Zelda game. However, I can't bring myself to care about Nintendo IPs anymore. They just don't do it for me anymore. As bad as support has been for the Vita, there's no doubt in my mind, I'll take a handheld that's getting Soul Sacrifice and Killzone Mercenary each and every time over a system that's getting another Zelda game or another Mario game. I guess I'm just tired of playing the same thing over and over and over and over; I gave Phantom Hourglass a shot and managed to finish it, but sadly, that's probably the last Zelda game I'll ever play.

 

[cyborg009]

Cross post and I agree with you toto

new free monsters

 

[Takao]

Today's Nintendo announcements reminded me of how much I dislike Sony's first party output.

You can laugh at the fact that they're all nostalgia cash grabs, but that's still an RPG, an action adventure and a platformer.

I admire Nintendo's first party output but I'm not sure I would want Sony to emulate them. There has yet to be a single new retail IP from Nintendo on 3DS after two years. That is crazy.

One thing I want them to emulate is publishing third party games abroad. Namco Bandai and the Tales franchise have a long history on PlayStation platforms. How come the Vita games are still Japan-only? Where is Final Fantasy Type-0?

 

[corrosivefrost]

13+ hours later, we have an update.

PlayStation ‏@PlayStation 3m
UPDATE: The PSN team is working hard on the PS Store publish, happening later today. We’ll update here when live. Thanks for your patience

You can expect something at sometime during the future. Thanks!

 

[The Grim Heaper]

thanks for the update on an update for the update sony

 

[Azull]

snip

Completely agree.

 

[Totobeni]

I'll withhold judgment as to whether Sony has given up on the Vita until I see E3 and see if they actually follow through with their intention of making most PS4 games stream onto Vita. I personally have no complaints about Vita because I have gotten thousands of hours of enjoyment from it. If I can stream PS4 games on it, even better. It would be sad to see them abandon it, but tbh, I really don't see that happening.

It's good if that what you want,but Sorry but Vita is not supposed to be just a Gamepad for PS4, it supposed to be a it's own thing,you can be happy with that but I didn't bought it to play PS4 games on a tiny screen.

I'm not defending Sony here, and yeah, it's admirable that the 3DS is getting first party support (and some good third party support). But I still don't have any interest in the system. There was once a time when I would have bought a 3DS XL today, immediately, in prep for the new Zelda game. However, I can't bring myself to care about Nintendo IPs anymore. They just don't do it for me anymore. As bad as support has been for the Vita, there's no doubt in my mind, I'll take a handheld that's getting Soul Sacrifice and Killzone Mercenary each and every time over a system that's getting another Zelda game or another Mario game. I guess I'm just tired of playing the same thing over and over and over and over; I gave Phantom Hourglass a shot and managed to finish it, but sadly, that's probably the last Zelda game I'll ever play.

The problem is not if you and me like Nintendo IPs or not,the problem here is Vita is not getting anything that matter to the PlayStation brand fans anymore and Sony is still keep the focus more into PS3 than their newer system, if it was like early last year it'll be fine,I mean just look at Rain,Puppeteer and GT6 and look at how they did Invizimals Vita version and you should realize the bigger problem here,SCEWWS don't want to invest much into the Vita and this is bad,really bad and it tell me that for SCE point of view Vita has no future and that why they focus on pushing PlayStation 3 instead.

I admire Nintendo's first party output but I'm not sure I would want Sony to emulate them. There has yet to be a single new retail IP from Nintendo on 3DS after two years. That is crazy.

One thing I want them to emulate is publishing third party games abroad. Namco Bandai and the Tales franchise have a long history on PlayStation platforms. How come the Vita games are still Japan-only? Where is Final Fantasy Type-0?

Yup,they leave third party out there,unlike Nintendo they don't go and publish the 3rd party IPs the west (to be fair they don't publish their own Japanese games in the west too but this is another story) no wonder 3rd party publisher leave them at first opportunity like what happen when everyone jumped on 360 bus and put JRPGs on it early this gen.

 

[Massa]

You know, I use the online stores from Google, Apple, Valve, Nintendo, Microsoft, Humble Bundle and SCEE regularly or semi-regularly. Compared to any of them, SCEA's situation and mismanagement is really unbelievable.

 

[dallow_bg]

13+ hours later, we have an update.

PlayStation ‏@PlayStation 3m
UPDATE: The PSN team is working hard on the PS Store publish, happening later today. We’ll update here when live. Thanks for your patience

You can expect something at sometime during the future. Thanks!

I seriously can't believe how they're VPs let them get away with that.
Our team would be so fired.

 

[Twinduct]

I admire Nintendo's first party output but I'm not sure I would want Sony to emulate them. There has yet to be a single new retail IP from Nintendo on 3DS after two years. That is crazy.

One thing I want them to emulate is publishing third party games abroad. Namco Bandai and the Tales franchise have a long history on PlayStation platforms. How come the Vita games are still Japan-only? Where is Final Fantasy Type-0?

Pretty much this. Uncharted Karting, Uncharted Party, Sully's Mansion, New Uncharted Bros V.
Granted none of them will have the same level of success

 

[corrosivefrost]

You know, I use the online stores from Google, Apple, Valve, Nintendo, Microsoft, Humble Bundle and SCEE regularly or semi-regularly. Compared to any of them, SCEA's situation and mismanagement is really unbelievable.

Exactly.

And when the Nintendo online store is a hallmark of excellence compared to your service, well...

 

[darkjedi187]

So, maybe by tonight I can get the SS demo and get my vita version of Sly 4

 

[Figboy79]

This reaches beyond the consumer which has the right to be upset. You think it would be okay if every Best Buy and Gamestop was unable to sell Injustice yesterday because of some issue? This is also affecting publishers and perhaps more importantly developers very negatively. I feel sorry for the developer of Dragon Fantasy because they are the ones getting really burned by this. Also we got guys at Zeboyd and potentially other small devs looking to bring their titles to PSN and who knows how things like this affect their decisions.

*shrugs* If Best Buy or Gamestop can't sell the game because of some issue, then I'll either buy the game from somewhere else, or wait until they get it in. It depends on the situation, really. Since the titles people are anticipating on the PS Update are pretty much locked to PSN (Soul Sacrifice, that is), the consumer has no choice but to wait until the issue gets sorted out.

I didn't say I want these sorts of things to happen, but I understand that they do, and it's not the end of the world. So you have to wait one extra day before you can purchase your stuff, or download your free demo. That is not cause for an outrage. Now, if this was something like the PSN outage from a few years back, an we were forced to wait a full month before we could get our stuff, yeah, I'd be pissed. This, though? Mountain out of a mole hill until it's extended beyond 5 business days in my opinion.

And yeah, obviously delays hurt developers. The games I work on have very strict update and release schedules, and releasing late can affect our profits, so we shoot for staying on schedule, but sometimes things happen, and we have to delay. Our hope is that, with the added time to fix whatever it is is causing the delay, will allow the product to be better. If it's an outside force keeping us from releasing on time (ie, Amazon or Apple are being fuckfaces), well, there's not much we can do.

Yes, Dragon Fantasy could suffer, but are people really not going to buy the game because they had to wait an extra day or two? It's not like this month is swimming in competing titles on PSN at the moment. I can understand when it's something like a small, yet promising retail title releasing during CoD/Assassin's Creed season. As it is now, I'll buy Dragon Fantasy when it's available. It's not available now, so I'll wait.

Again, as someone who works on small titles, I know what it's like to have delays interrupt the plan, so I empathize, but I don't think the Dragon Fantasy team is at "crisis mode," because of a 1 day delay. I don't disagree with your sentiment. I just don't agree with your sentiment in this particular instance, at least not yet. If this issue isn't sorted out by the start of next week, then, yeah, I'll be swinging by your opinion myself. But until then, it seems incredibly pre-mature to assume that these guys chances of making a profit are plummeting exponentially.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

I admire Nintendo's first party output but I'm not sure I would want Sony to emulate them. There has yet to be a single new retail IP from Nintendo on 3DS after two years. That is crazy.

One thing I want them to emulate is publishing third party games abroad. Namco Bandai and the Tales franchise have a long history on PlayStation platforms. How come the Vita games are still Japan-only? Where is Final Fantasy Type-0?

And Nintendo is just as guilty as Sony in ignoring a platform. The 3DS is getting a lot of love, but Wii U....

 

[ZeroAKA]

This store delay is an unsuccessful ploy by Sony to divert attention from today's Nintendo Direct.

 

[The Grim Heaper]

This store delay is an unsuccessful ploy by Sony to divert attention from today's Nintendo Direct.

Wouldn't it direct attention towards it? Nobody has what they wanted from the Store update, so they opted to watch ND instead.

 

[Totobeni]

And Nintendo is just as guilty as Sony in ignoring a platform. The 3DS is getting a lot of love, but Wii U....

they are pushing it hard tho (Pikmin 3,X,Bayo 2,Smash,Kart..ect) and Nintendo will going to put all their big hitters on it for sure and it still getting big support from Ubi,Disney and WB and this can't be said on Sony and Vita situation.

This store delay is an unsuccessful ploy by Sony to divert attention from today's Nintendo Direct.

it's unacceptable and SCEA is incompetent,It's as simple as that.

 

[ZeroAKA]

Wouldn't it direct attention towards it? Nobody has what they wanted from the Store update, so they opted to watch ND instead.

They wanted more people to talk about the lack of a store update than about Nintendo Direct news, but it was unsuccessful. It's a joint effort between the store and marketing departments.

 

[Takao]

And Nintendo is just as guilty as Sony in ignoring a platform. The 3DS is getting a lot of love, but Wii U....

It's pretty odd how both are showering the platforms that have third party support but are ignoring the ones that don't. You'd think they would do the opposite ...

 

[noonespecial]

Wouldn't it direct attention towards it? Nobody has what they wanted from the Store update, so they opted to watch ND instead.

Didn't I read in one of the incarnations of this thread months ago that SCEA really works for NoA?

 

[Azull]

It's pretty odd how both are showering the platforms that have third party support but are ignoring the ones that don't. You'd think they would do the opposite ...

Ah, but there lies your problem sir.

You are asking for Japanese companies to make sense.

 

[garath]

Just bought P4 Golden for my vita. Hoping to bring a little life back to it. Been collecting dust for awhile. I've avoided P4 because I know my tendencies will be to play with a guide so I don't miss anything and I hate having to do that lol.

 

[erpg]

Just bought P4 Golden for my vita. Hoping to bring a little life back to it. Been collecting dust for awhile. I've avoided P4 because I know my tendencies will be to play with a guide so I don't miss anything and I hate having to do that lol.

Trophies require two playthroughs, so just do a dry run and a second completionist one.

 

[Ty4on]

Trophies require two playthroughs, so just do a dry run and a second completionist one.

I haven't played through it, but isn't there tons of stuff you have to overlook?

 

[ZeroAKA]

Trophies require two playthroughs, so just do a dry run and a second completionist one.

Yep, play the first time around for fun without any guides. Use guides for the second playthrough if needed to max out Social Links and unlock the True Ending.

 

[Toma]

Just bought P4 Golden for my vita. Hoping to bring a little life back to it. Been collecting dust for awhile. I've avoided P4 because I know my tendencies will be to play with a guide so I don't miss anything and I hate having to do that lol.

You can just play it two times and go for completion in NG+. Thats what I plan on doing anyway.

 

[Shikoro]

Am I a bad person because I enjoy the voice acting in the Soul Sacrifice demo?

If that's the case, then I'm the embodiment of a bad person for enjoying some of the voice acting out there which is by most of GAF members' standards considered as pure garbage. (._. )

 

[Figboy79]

they are pushing it hard tho (Pikmin 3,X,Bayo 2,Smash,Kart..ect) and Nintendo will going to put all their big hitters on it for sure and it still getting big support from Ubi,Disney and WB and this can't be said on Sony and Vita situation.



it's unacceptable and SCEA is incompetent,It's as simple as that.

Nintendo puts all their "big hitters" on everything, because they're their big hitters.

The big hitters for Sony are Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, God of War, and Gran Turismo. Uncharted an LBP Vita have already hit, and were successful, so I'm sure we'll get Uncharted: Golden Abyss 2 and LBP Vita 2 at some point.

I'm also sure a God of War spin-off will appear on the Vita in the future, and possible Gran Turismo as well. If E3 hits, and the Vita is non-existent, then, yeah, I'll concede, but there is plenty of stuff hitting the system that isn't just indie dev stuff over the course of this year. Those games may or may not be to your taste, but they exist. "I'm not interested in the games that are coming out," isn't the same "Man, there are no games coming out for this system!"

Personally, the titles Nintendo have announced for the 3DS at their event I have absolutely 0 interest in. They aren't selling me on a 3DS. Doesn't mean those titles don't exist, and that people aren't excited for them. Ditto for the Wii U. I'm just not huge into Mario, Zelda, or Metroid these days, so those titles don't sell Nintendo systems to me anymore.

 

[tamaster92]

Been away a couple days guys!

How about dem plus games for Europe?

Hell yeah!

And SS demo too!

 

[corrosivefrost]

Been away a couple days guys!

How about dem plus games for Europe?

Hell yeah!

And SS demo too!

I hate you.

 

[BlackLagoon]

One thing I want them to emulate is publishing third party games abroad. Namco Bandai and the Tales franchise have a long history on PlayStation platforms. How come the Vita games are still Japan-only? Where is Final Fantasy Type-0?

I guess Sony saw spending money on big franchises like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty as a more viable strategy. Publishing a few Japanese games would be nice, but I expect they don't see it as any viable long term strategy. It's basically moneyhatting these companies, since if a lower cost release was viable, I'm sure smaller companies like XSeed and Aksys would have already gotten them.

If Sony wants to do something more long term, it'd probably have to be working to change Japanese development habits to make localization faster, cheaper, and less dependent on the original development team being available.

It's pretty odd how both are showering the platforms that have third party support but are ignoring the ones that don't. You'd think they would do the opposite ...

I suspect the issue is that both are new platforms, and development on new games has not gone as smoothly as expected. Back in 2011, I'm sure Sony intended Killzone and Warrior's Lair to be out by now, never mind games that got squashed before they were announced... For example, I believe the guys at Ambient Studios talked about having a Vita game in development for Sony that ended up getting killed.

 

[zroid]

There has to be some explanation outside of herp derp Sony. Like, maybe Grace Chen's brother was running in the Boston Marathon or something. Outside of an epidemic in the SCEA offices, or some other tragedy, there really is no excuse for something like this.

 

[Holmes]

Trophies require two playthroughs, so just do a dry run and a second completionist one.

I would suggest getting all the books read in the first playthrough though. Then in the second playthrough, the night social links can be done without having to read any books, and the spare time afterwards can be used to draw fortunes to level up the other social links must faster.

 

[Figboy79]

I have a serious question. I see a lot of "Vita game dry spell" comments in every Vita related thread, so my question is: What types of games do you guys like to the point where you don't have anything to play? And bonus question: How much time do you have for gaming on a weekly basis?

I ask this, because I haven't been wanting for anything to play on the Vita since I bought it when it launched. Is it a "new game smell" thing? Where you all need new content on a regular basis or you get depressed?

Between Vita releases (still playing Persona 4, Stranger's Wrath; I've never played either, Machinarium, Retro City Rampage, Sly 4, Disgaea 3, MGS HD, and have yet to get Atelier Totori Plus, DOA5 Plus, Dokuro, Earth Defense Force, Sine Mora, and Zero Escape: VLR), I have a ton of PS1 and PSP titles I've never played/got very far in/beat to work my way through (don't worry, I won't list them, because it's too long).

I love new game releases too, but I just wonder what genres the rest of you like that you feel the Vita is lacking in. I'm a big action, adventure, and RPG fan, and I have plenty of those on my Vita. I don't particularly care if they're Vita specific, PS1, or PSP. The point is, I either haven't played them, or want to play them on the go. I'm playing Y's Seven, which I've never played before, and really loving that one, but I'm currently on a break.

Do you guys pace yourself when gaming, or just go all out and marathon a particular game until you beat it? I jump around a lot, but I also only have about 15-20 hours of free gaming time a week, depending on work schedule and plans with my wife.

I'm genuinely curious about this, since I see so much "I'm dusting off my Vita for >insert new release here<" comments that I imagine you all must be blasting through these games at breakneck speed to run out of things to play so fast.

 

[Schobeleth]

So um, after mulling this over for awhile (and seething in rage overnight that I can't play the SS demo) I whole-heartedly believe that Sony is going to come out of the gate stumbling when it comes to the PS4's online/streaming features. There is NO WAY they're going to get things right, and coming from that it'll probably take a long, long time for them to have things ironed out.

If something as simple as keeping store updates and PSN maintenance on schedule is this hard (and it has been in the past, at least for SCEA) that means the entirety of PSN is held back because of it.

Microsoft really only has to worry about their American servers because that's where basically all of their owners are and Nintendo doesn't really have to worry about their online because frankly they don't really care about it

Spoiler

kidding, KIDDING

but ultimately Sony has been having major issues because their various Playstation branches aren't more unified. I'm sure there's some way they'll spin this when it comes to PR but ultimately the reason is going to just be "it's hard! it makes my head hurt!"


....


Sorry for that rant, I just want my damn store update, and now I have zero faith that the Vita streaming will work or be widely supported, at least not for a long time.

 

[IHaveCandy]

I don't think these issues will be related to PS4. They didnt spend hundreds of millions of dollars on Gaikai for nothing.

 

[Schobeleth]

I don't think these issues will be related to PS4. They didnt spend hundreds of millions of dollars on Gaikai for nothing.

Buying the company is one thing but properly utilizing their talent and tech is another. So far we have pretty much nothing to enforce the hope or belief that Sony will get it's act together and finally streamline it's PSN experience. If they keep stumbling with stuff like this, who's to say they won't do the same when it comes to the PS4's features?

 

[IHaveCandy]

Buying the company is one thing but properly utilizing their talent and tech is another. So far we have pretty much nothing to enforce the hope or belief that Sony will get it's act together and finally streamline it's PSN experience. If they keep stumbling with stuff like this, who's to say they won't do the same when it comes to the PS4's features?

I doubt they spent that money to tell them to do nothing. I'm not saying that the PS4 will certainly not have any network problems. I'm saying these network problems are not indicative of what the PS4 will be like since its being handled by a new group.


If you went to a restaurant that had good food but shitty service, and the restaurant replaced the waiters with well known quality waiters, would the previous shitty waiters be indicative of what to expect from the new waiters?

 

[Yopis]

I don't think these issues will be related to PS4. They didnt spend hundreds of millions of dollars on Gaikai for nothing.

They jointly spent a ton on the cell and look what happened with that for years. The Gaikai stuff will be mid gen imo. Kinda like PS2 having a port for the network adapter but not using it for years. Or maybe the PS3 having a barebones online service then years later fleshing it out.

Gaikai stuff seemed like (this is where we want to go eventually). Maybe Im wrong though. Not holding my breath after seeing they can't get a demo out on time. They treat hardware like a sandbox mmorpg. Get the thing out build It up from there.

 

[Leona Lewis]

I have a serious question. I see a lot of "Vita game dry spell" comments in every Vita related thread, so my question is: What types of games do you guys like to the point where you don't have anything to play? And bonus question: How much time do you have for gaming on a weekly basis?

I ask this, because I haven't been wanting for anything to play on the Vita since I bought it when it launched. Is it a "new game smell" thing? Where you all need new content on a regular basis or you get depressed?

Between Vita releases (still playing Persona 4, Stranger's Wrath; I've never played either, Machinarium, Retro City Rampage, Sly 4, Disgaea 3, MGS HD, and have yet to get Atelier Totori Plus, DOA5 Plus, Dokuro, Earth Defense Force, Sine Mora, and Zero Escape: VLR), I have a ton of PS1 and PSP titles I've never played/got very far in/beat to work my way through (don't worry, I won't list them, because it's too long).

I love new game releases too, but I just wonder what genres the rest of you like that you feel the Vita is lacking in. I'm a big action, adventure, and RPG fan, and I have plenty of those on my Vita. I don't particularly care if they're Vita specific, PS1, or PSP. The point is, I either haven't played them, or want to play them on the go. I'm playing Y's Seven, which I've never played before, and really loving that one, but I'm currently on a break.

Do you guys pace yourself when gaming, or just go all out and marathon a particular game until you beat it? I jump around a lot, but I also only have about 15-20 hours of free gaming time a week, depending on work schedule and plans with my wife.

I'm genuinely curious about this, since I see so much "I'm dusting off my Vita for >insert new release here<" comments that I imagine you all must be blasting through these games at breakneck speed to run out of things to play so fast.

You're assuming that people are interested in every new release. It doesn't matter how many new games come out if so few are of any interest to you personally, which is why that latest "Sony Direct" with 63 MonHun clones was so frustrating.