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Boston: One dead, one captured, city re-opened

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They only showed up a while after the initial altercation. Remember they had automatic weapons, grenades, pipebombs versus a group of police that probably only had pistols and tasers.

Also there were no helicopters in the early morning due to weather conditions.

But they knew his general location though. Once someone starts tossing grenades at you, it's probably time to get the FBI involved.

I mean, this is RIGHT AFTER the bombing. Boston is one of the most heavily-protected areas in America right now.

How he got away despite all of this....I just can't understand that.
 
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LOL. Sorry if it's been posted already.

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Why did he even run at all then? (First by car, then on foot)

Well there are many reasons, the obvious one being he doesnt want to get caught, if he is caught you can bet good money they will have someone monitoring his activities all day every day, lets not forget they would love nothing more than to make an example out of this kid. Secondly theres the adrenaline, a car chase, grenades, death, the natural instinct is to flee.

The reasons i think he is dead, specifically suicide is the following:

a) Young Kid who got into far more than he realised
b) Ran over his own brother, very likely the person who convinced him to get into all this and he is truly now alone.
c) National printed news, his face literally everywhere, there is no "good" ending for him unless he is supremely lucky or takes matters into his own hands.
 
I'm not buying how some explosives somehow allowed him to get away. It's not like he was in a tank shooting rockets at them with precision.

Weren't there like a thousand members of law enforcement there, plus helicopters, SWAT and the National Guard?

WHAT?
It was a small team at the start.
 
They had no idea if he was involved or not. When one suspect suddenly explodes after he was arrested/shot, you think they wouldn't take extreme precaution on everyone they collared? He was in the area where the suspects fled. Wrong place, wrong time.

I suppose so. This is all just incredibly insane with so many twists and turns. Probably going to be yet another crazy night.
 
But they knew his general location though. Once someone starts tossing grenades at you, it's probably time to get the FBI involved.

I mean, this is RIGHT AFTER the bombing. Boston is one of the most heavily-protected areas in America right now.

How he got away despite all of this....I just can't understand that.
Well i was up following this. Initially they had no clue how armed these guys were. They thought it was related to robbery.
 
If he got away, it was because it was super late at night and they didn't have enough people on duty in time.

The full on manpower didn't come until later, you know.
 
I remember during the Dorner Saga, the first night he was spotted at Big Bear Lake, they had this World Class Army Sniper on CNN, and he was saying that Dorner is a fat, unathletic pig, and would be found within hours.

If an overweight, husky person like Dorner was able to elude authorities for nearly 3 days, I think it's plausible to see how this kid has been able to stay hidden so far.

That's not true. Dorner was BIG, not fat. There's a big difference to that. He was husky but certainly had enough lean body mass that was muscle.
 
Except they fucking HAD him. They were shooting at him. How did he get away?

Again, they thought they had both of them. They had 1 suspect injured and 1 on the ground at gunpoint for awhile. After getting that guy naked and secure, only then did they figure out he wasn't their suspect. This was also all before there was any link to the bombings for the people asking why there wasn't 1000 officers.
 
Some 80 year old lady calls in and says she saw Sasquatch and they go check it. 99.999% chance it's nothing, like the rest of the lame ass scanner 'alerts.'

Yeah, this scanner channel has to be very low priority. Using it for officers checking out of the perimeter after an 18 hour shift, etc.

It was wild last night as things just started to unfold, but at this point other agencies have taken over.
 
Pete Williams just made another really good point, they have Suspect #1's phone(s) and are going to know everyone he ever called and everyone who called them very shortly (if not already).
 
It's a huge failure on their part, but I'll be they're feeling a hell of a lot worse than anybody else right about now.

On the scanner they all sound like they lost their puppies. It's making this even more depressing. Even though it's not their fault individually, someone kills innocents in their city, they eventually find him but he gets away. You've got to feel horrible about this if you're police.
 
That's not true. Dorner was BIG, not fat. There's a big difference to that. He was husky but certainly had enough lean body mass that was muscle.

I'm just saying what the Sniper said.

Dorner had a build very similar to Shamar if you saw any of the current season of Survivor.
 
If he got away, it was because it was super late at night and they didn't have enough people on duty in time.

The full on manpower didn't come until later, you know.

The FBI probably fucked up on this.

They should have expected that the guys would be on the run after showing their pictures to the world, so they must have been ready to send more forces after any suspicious activity.
 
Older brother has 3-year old daughter, and had a case of domestic violence. Whoa.

The only way he'll be able to go undetected is if he has a huge support system/accomplices who will shelter him 24/7. Otherwise, it's just a matter of time until someone spots him and calls the police. Game over.

I'd wager if he had a support network they'd consider him disposable/liability at this point. He can't execute any more missions, everybody is looking for him and if he gets caught then he'd blow the lid on them. His backers (if he has any) would want him dead.
 
What's really weird is they just said they had no connection to the 7-11 robbery. They just by coincidence happened to be there at the exact time.

Come the fuck on! That part is a little weird. What a massive coincidence to be at an armed robbery of a 7-11 when you are the most wanted people in the country.


I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm just sayin, either somethin is fishy, or there is a ridiculous amount of misinformation and bad reporting going on.
 
I hope a mod updates the thread title when they get the next guy because I'm not gonna follow this actively anymore. Too many trivial things being treated as significant across all information sources.
 
What's really weird is they just said they had no connection to the 7-11 robbery. They just by coincidence happened to be there at the exact time.

Come the fuck on! That part is a little weird. What a massive coincidence to be at an armed robbery of a 7-11 when you are the most wanted people in the country.


I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm just sayin, either somethin is fishy, or there is ridiculous amount of misinformation and bad reporting going on.

Strange things are afoot at the circle K 7/11
 
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