Iacobellis
Junior Member
Remember when people thought the 3DS wouldn't survive? Good times.
Don't jump to conclusions so fast about the Vita.
Don't jump to conclusions so fast about the Vita.
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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | April 2013 | Sacrifice your Independent Soul
- Thread starter The Grim Heaper
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Soul Sacrifice is coming out and we're all looking forward to killing one another. Got to set the mood.
People can jump into conclusions all they want, I just wish they would use the proper thread for it. Is it a Vita game or service you're talking about? If not, this is not the thread for it. Use one of the appropriate threads for your brilliant insights into the gaming industry.
I mean pretty much, If you don't like what Vita offers or your disappointed..
Then sell it.
The point of this thread is to foster a community behind the device as we explore the various titles that get released throughout its lifespan. We know shit ain't looking good. Nobody denies it, but we aren't gonna sit in the thread and moan about it when there's still games to be played.
Vita isn't going anywhere. Even if it fails Sony will push it as a PS4 addendum device.
Can we bring the focus back please?
Soul Sacrifice is crazy good yo, Ive spent like 3-4 hours playing online with people. Game's mad difficult if the entire team is underpowered. I need to get stronger so I can at least actually put real damage on the Cerberus, That thing is taking my lunch
Then sell it.
The point of this thread is to foster a community behind the device as we explore the various titles that get released throughout its lifespan. We know shit ain't looking good. Nobody denies it, but we aren't gonna sit in the thread and moan about it when there's still games to be played.
Vita isn't going anywhere. Even if it fails Sony will push it as a PS4 addendum device.
Can we bring the focus back please?
Soul Sacrifice is crazy good yo, Ive spent like 3-4 hours playing online with people. Game's mad difficult if the entire team is underpowered. I need to get stronger so I can at least actually put real damage on the Cerberus, That thing is taking my lunch
Hope we get more games but I still love my Vita. System has given tons of enjoyment. Lets get back to what this thread is about....cool place for new and old Vita fans.
Not going to lie I have my rants, just not in here. No need to turn on each other. We all know the situation.
Not going to lie I have my rants, just not in here. No need to turn on each other. We all know the situation.
I also remember Nintendo slashing the price of the device $80 four months after launch, and announcing/launching big games like Monster Hunter, Mario Kart, and Mario 3D Land shortly after.
What is so special on the 3ds situation? Nintendo games? If you bought a vita instead of a 3ds then you are not so interested in them, another ace attorney? A smt with shitty 2d fights? The worst looking monster hunter ever? And so on.
I'm not saying that those are bad games, but that for me(and i think for many of who preferred a vita over a 3ds too) they are not that desiderable.
Used to enjoy reading this thread when I wasn't registered, but yeah, between sid, totobenny and takao the thread has gone to shit. What a shame.
I honestly have never put this many hours into a demo before. Just too good. I cannot wait till the 30th.
It convinced me to buy launch. Ill see yall in Avalon Vitabros
My favorite thing about the game is the whole energy of it. Its fast paced but yet heavy. All your attacks feel like they have weight. And when shits goin good, its this loud action packed battle going on against some giant monster that won't sit the hell down. My sorcerer looks cool as shit and everytime I need to pull off a Black Rite, I feel like some DBZ ass warrior unleashing shit lol. The polish is top notch. Top Notch
breakfuss
Member
Um, as far as I can count, I've made 4 "meta"-posts since Thursday, two of which were in direct response to someone else. I wasn't the first to point out the thread's condition today, sooo...there's that.
I agree that this needn't be the place for those sort of discussions, which is why I keep politely trying to diffuse them. We all know how bad the storm is, hence why we've taken refuge here, lol. No more levity from me, though. Sorry, massa!
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Your point is? Sony has time to turn things around.
Count me in.
Count me in too.
Can't wait to try the Japanese Voice DLC though.
hope it'll be better
ZeroAKA, you're doing the OT right?
we should have a list up with timings and all for easy partying heh
(think I wouldn't have to get MH now.. with SS)
but gosh, Harpy really looks disgusting :/
EDIT: I guess some of the cheerfulness of this thread has moved on to the specific OTs/threads (Guacamelee and Soul Sacrifice Demo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeP4bJV1KcU
Looks like a really nice game. Given its made around PS3 & Vita not PC the controls and loot/menu navigation shouldn't be a shite port.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
It's not a port. There was also speculation that this video was leaked and was not intended for upload at any specified time. Some think the game may have been cancelled.
Square Triangle
Member
Didn't Untold Legend sell really well on the PSP? I wonder why Sony did or wants to throw Warrior's Lair away?
Who knows what happened there. For all we know it could still be in development. Or could have been cancelled a long time ago. It looked like it could have been pretty cool so it's unfortunately it seems like it's in some kind of limbo.
Different atmosphere for the thread these last few pages but briefly through my eyes - Gaf has gone into meltdown mode from Nintendo doing an awesome job with the 3DS...by announcing seemingly everything they have arranged/planned. I don't think they hurt themselves by doing this due to their demographic in the west but it's not the same for Sony.
Sony got so much slack for shitty Vita representation at E3 2012 they know to do better this time (and did make more of an effort - lots more air time, in the next conference that year) but Vita fans are having nervous breakdowns from the lack of attention currently so Sony let slip some triple port collections until E3 where they give out gold. If that doesn't happen (infamous/gow/whatever for vita) I might have to avoid Gaf for a while to enjoy my Vita
Killzone, Tearaway and SS being announced so early was to give fans something to look forward to when people were worried, it's going to be that time again for next year and I'm excited I got to say, hopefully not foolishly so. I expect by next year they have the revision planned so we'll need some kickass games to not waste the marketing opportunity for the price drop/new model +game combo.
Sony got so much slack for shitty Vita representation at E3 2012 they know to do better this time (and did make more of an effort - lots more air time, in the next conference that year) but Vita fans are having nervous breakdowns from the lack of attention currently so Sony let slip some triple port collections until E3 where they give out gold. If that doesn't happen (infamous/gow/whatever for vita) I might have to avoid Gaf for a while to enjoy my Vita
Killzone, Tearaway and SS being announced so early was to give fans something to look forward to when people were worried, it's going to be that time again for next year and I'm excited I got to say, hopefully not foolishly so. I expect by next year they have the revision planned so we'll need some kickass games to not waste the marketing opportunity for the price drop/new model +game combo.
Not really. Retailers aren't going to continue stocking a platform that's selling as poorly as Vita is forever. There's nothing in the known software lineup that'll change that either. Killzone didn't move PS3s, so a spinoff that'll be sent to die with no marketing support against GTA V won't move Vitas. Tearaway is a new IP aimed at children on a device that probably has no children on it. One could argue that the Japanese lineup is even worse with absolutely no exclusives of note. It's bad, and Sony's shown no indication that they're willing to change that.
You might not like these posts but I don't necessarily think they're bad. Rather than some outsider who doesn't own the platform dogging it you have people who are really passionate about it that are disappointed in the way Sony's handling things. It's also a good counter to any dissenters who feel these threads are only for yes-men, and hive mind opinions.
I'm definitely compiling a list of PSN IDs. Should I start a Google Doc to help arrange games?
The Grim Heaper
Member
this is all garbage
I forgot Guilty Gear is out on Tuesday, I might have to buy that along with Black Rock Shooter.
I forgot Guilty Gear is out on Tuesday, I might have to buy that along with Black Rock Shooter.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Take the realist stance then.
Theres nothing Sony can do to "save" the Vita. They are content with the thing selling what it sells every month right now rather than attempting a price cut that doesn't change a whole lot - which is exactly what SCEJ did.
What exactly is the point? As much as I love my Vita its a device that had no business existing in the first place and was a total misread of the changing times in the market. It was too late to the party, too expensive and aimed at a demographic that doesn't exist (I'm one of the mythical few that falls into it). And like none of that is on the whipping boy Yoshida that some people want to point the finger at.
All I care about is that I'm still getting content on the device and I am. I think if you didn't enjoy indie games though then yeah your device is going to collect some dust. I'm enjoying the hell out of Gucamelee and Soul Sacrifice right now.
Theres nothing Sony can do to "save" the Vita. They are content with the thing selling what it sells every month right now rather than attempting a price cut that doesn't change a whole lot - which is exactly what SCEJ did.
What exactly is the point? As much as I love my Vita its a device that had no business existing in the first place and was a total misread of the changing times in the market. It was too late to the party, too expensive and aimed at a demographic that doesn't exist (I'm one of the mythical few that falls into it). And like none of that is on the whipping boy Yoshida that some people want to point the finger at.
All I care about is that I'm still getting content on the device and I am. I think if you didn't enjoy indie games though then yeah your device is going to collect some dust. I'm enjoying the hell out of Gucamelee and Soul Sacrifice right now.
Google Doc would be useful I guess
not sure how much it would overlap with the existing PSN IDs thread though
Killzone on PS3 vs Vita is a bit different I think. Who knows how much of an effect CoD had on the Vita, I mean how it would have done without it, despite being the price and form it was. As well as Vita being still really fresh then and as we know the market isn't really ready, price or attention wise but things change as iOS gets more stale but makes people want to play games on a handheld - bored of their consoles and looking for a Vita (or next-gen) - especially people who are slightly older than the traditional handheld market for Sony (13+), now it feels more like 17+. More disposable income, buy more games etc. Sony has to show the rest the way. The games on the 3DS don't appeal to the majority of these grownup dudebro gamers, but Sony has a chance.
I understand mobile gaming is more a per-chance sort of thing for a lot of people, but it has had a shift on gaming habits in general and Sony is more regularly advertising the Vita being played around the home, as well as on a bus or dumsjit like running on rooftops while playing.
The focus on PS4 remote-play will really help with this (if done properly) as well.
Vita was the first dual stick controller. It enables FPS and 3rd person action adventure games that would have sucked before. A decent FPS that is reasonably priced (since Sony is pricing it this time, none of those 3rd-party set the price excuses), shouldn't be dismissed so lightly even though it is killzone. The simple showing of killzone on ps4 at e3 might get people excited for the handheld version as well if they are remotely interested in the platform.
They could drop the price more but they'd be taking a hit I imagine, the Vita is some kit. Of course they will in the west too but it has to be timed with some decent software. Don't forget they still have a chance with a revision and so further price cuts in the future. The demographic isn't really going anywhere and retailers have plenty of crap already, something new helps their appearance. It's already a problem at the moment though. Things change, I think they've been doing a pretty great job with the hardcore audience but the general gamers that never really went portable (before iOS gaming) need a much bigger prompt, who is to say that isn't coming. Be patient, despite what people think, Sony has a lot more to lose from dropping the Vita than keeping it going, which they can afford.
I understand mobile gaming is more a per-chance sort of thing for a lot of people, but it has had a shift on gaming habits in general and Sony is more regularly advertising the Vita being played around the home, as well as on a bus or dumsjit like running on rooftops while playing.
The focus on PS4 remote-play will really help with this (if done properly) as well.
Vita was the first dual stick controller. It enables FPS and 3rd person action adventure games that would have sucked before. A decent FPS that is reasonably priced (since Sony is pricing it this time, none of those 3rd-party set the price excuses), shouldn't be dismissed so lightly even though it is killzone. The simple showing of killzone on ps4 at e3 might get people excited for the handheld version as well if they are remotely interested in the platform.
They could drop the price more but they'd be taking a hit I imagine, the Vita is some kit. Of course they will in the west too but it has to be timed with some decent software. Don't forget they still have a chance with a revision and so further price cuts in the future. The demographic isn't really going anywhere and retailers have plenty of crap already, something new helps their appearance. It's already a problem at the moment though. Things change, I think they've been doing a pretty great job with the hardcore audience but the general gamers that never really went portable (before iOS gaming) need a much bigger prompt, who is to say that isn't coming. Be patient, despite what people think, Sony has a lot more to lose from dropping the Vita than keeping it going, which they can afford.
sechsterangriff
Member
I know what you mean but I also understand where he's coming from.
We see this type discussion constantly in sales threads and others, and this one seemed to be the only place where people could discuss how much they're enjoying the system without all the doom and gloom.
I don't think anyone here is burying their head pretending there's nothing wrong. We are all well aware of the platform's problems.
Some people (me included) just hope this thread doesn't end up like most.
Yeah I was surprised to see Guilty Gear is coming out. That's a native Vita version right?
Didn't we have a thread few days ago about it silently being cancelled.
Really? Was it based on evidence or just speculation that it may be cancelled?
Btw is anyone quite regularly using that PS app that lets you remote play from PC? Might be quite cool with Dolphin and emulators or something. Never managed to get it working properly for longer than a minute without it crashing but that was a long time ago, did they improve it by any chance?
--edit costs $100 to try it now due to end of open beta
--edit costs $100 to try it now due to end of open beta
Iacobellis
Junior Member
A bit of both I guess. Only heard of it once at E3 2011.
Grinchy
Banned
I wasn't before, but holy shit I will be messing with it now. Just watched a youtube video on it and it seems relatively simple to set up.
Hmm if it is an old video...(racing game?) then I think I might have seen it too...didn't quite get the same results back then with the version that was available but then again my pc was x64 and remoteplay varies for everyone so goodluck, do let us know if it's any good, will try again as it would be cool.
Don't you need to spend $100 now to run code from the PSM dev suite?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541695
That's not a realist's stance. Vita was really only a poor decision for SCEA since they experienced no post-launch success with PSP. SCEE, and SCEJ both had success with the platform. SCEE had minor success with children's games, and SCEJ had mainstream success with the PSP. By the time the PSP is discontinued in Japan it will have outsold the PS2 in that market despite Sony not really giving the PSP its' best, or having a library nearly as good as the PS2's. If Sony wanted to remain relevant in that market Vita was going to be it. The problem is that for whatever reason Sony decided to ignore what made the PSP successful, and rather than buy exclusive Final Fantasy, or Monster Hunter entries they bought Call of Duty, and Assassin's Creed.
Oh sorry guys, not sure actually haven't ran it in so long (pc broke). Let me try launching it from vita..updating..
How long till GoT?
...damn, doesn't show up for me anymore...although not 100% since been a while since used it and don't have a pc to launch the app, on mac atm. I seem to remember something about the open beta ending though, my mistake Grinchy!
If the dev got that working on PSM so long ago, gives you some hope. Don't see why it wouldn't be able to be sold on PSM if he got it stable enough...might be a challenge for so many devices though :/
If anyone wants to pay the $100 to try it out
http://retrozelda.com/?page=apps&id=32 - new download linkwelcome to vita heaven, krioto
we do have a VitaGAF group on Steam!
and get the following games
Soul Sacrifice Demo
Guacamelee
PlayStation+ subscription
corrosivefrost
Member
I do whatever it takes to win. If that means you're getting sacrificed? So be it. I'll at least try to make sure you kill the boss so you get some good loot.
Glorified G
Member
Bought mlb 12 the show used and goddamn the hitting is hard, but the game is so addicting. Getting a hit can be very rewarding. I've never played the console version but being able to sim innings makes this perfect for pick up & play.
Anyone has mlb 13? Is there any big differences from 12?
Anyone has mlb 13? Is there any big differences from 12?
Okay I did a little research and found the thread and what the designer at Idol Minds said about it. Yeah, seems like Sony did cancel it. Unfortunate. See, this kind of thing does make me a bit annoyed. Both the silent cancellations and how Sony closed most of the development studios that worked on Vita. I can't help but get a little angry.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Just got Sly used at GameStop on PS3 with a Vita redemption option still intact. I shall be returning it tomorrow since its no longer needed. I feel kinda bad for taking it though. Has anybody else done this?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Like you said, the problem with the Vita really does lie with SCEA. In 2005, the PlayStation brand was the strongest of the three. America belonged to Sony at the time, not Microsoft. The PSP really built upon this, and was the first device of its kind where you could play a console kind of game and have other features that rival that of an iPod and smartphone of the time. Sony's biggest fail behind the Vita was R&D. Japan was the best market for the PSP, well, handhelds in general. Between the PSP and Vita, America really moved to smartphones and tablets for portable gaming. Japan hasn't.
Sony gave the people that has turned away from this kind of device the games they want, and left the real handheld gamers with MH clones. I personally feel Sony went with spending the money of Western games because of the marketshare they loss to Microsoft. They don't want to become irrelevant in the country where they sold the most.
13 is much better performance-wise. If you are ok with 12, you should be ok.
Glorified G
Member
I've never played the show before but I've always intended to. When I saw 12 so cheap I couldn't pass it up. The only performance issue i noticed is the framerate when going up to bat, otherwise seems smooth. Definitely keeping an eye out when 14 comes out.
breakfuss
Member
Well aside from the fact that you're an incredibly bad person, the ps3 version is a bit superior to the vita one. Don't get me wrong - it's completely serviceable, but I prefer it on the console.