Nintendo ditches main E3 conference, still there with games, press events, N-Direct

So once again, Nintendo is being gimped in order to satiate iwata's thirst for Internet glory.

E3 replaced by Nintendo Direct? Really?

What next? Ask Iwata becomes the only outlet for Nintendo interviews?

Iwata needs to be sorting shit out not fucking about on the Internet.

Iwata Asks Brera

Some of you act like Nintendo won't even have games at the show...

There are some people who can not comprehend the Nintendo has more games coming out.
 
These titles are LITERALLY what I was talking about. None of those titles are going to sell WiiUs to people who don't already own a WiiU or aren't already Nintendo fans with intent to buy.

These titles will get next to no traction with the mainstream media when MS and Sony (and ALL the third parties) show next gen titles and new IPs.


Are you kidding? These games are bigger than any other game, they'll get media just fine.
 
This is like hearing that Christmas will go on this year but Christmas morning presents will now be distributed at random unforeseen intervals at times other than Christmas morning.

I mean, yeah, that's cool, miracles can happen at any time, but... uh... well... I liked Christmas morning. :-\

It *could* be that they're adopting the Hannukah model; instead of one day of presents they'll have five (crazy?) nights. And that's the closest I'll ever come to quoting Adam Sandler.
 
Ah this reads so much like another "we're not competing with THEM" moment from Nintendo. Wouldn't be surprised to see Reggie blurt out some disparaging "having a big conference is DUMB, only DUMMIES do that" message.

Nintendo cancelling gaming christmas certainly is a sign of the times.
 
The whole "bite size press events and nintendo directs" reminds me when E3 tried to scale down and have "bite size events and press directs" it didnt work.


This wont work for nintendo either, but with ps4 and x720 showing up i dont think they care.
 
This will probably allow them to focus on the individual games in greater detail, so we should get more info out of this than if everything was crammed into a 60-minute conference and later we had to hunt for hands-on impressions for more details.

Still, I will miss the hype so much:-(
 
So once again, Nintendo is being gimped in order to satiate iwata's thirst for Internet glory.

E3 replaced by Nintendo Direct? Really?

What next? Ask Iwata becomes the only outlet for Nintendo interviews?

Iwata needs to be sorting shit out not fucking about on the Internet.

Why do you think Iwata cares about Internet fame ? What would you do in Iwatas shoes ?

Drop Iwata asks, drop Nintendo direct and make a copy of PS4, sell it at loss and expect 3rd parties to magicly flock around the system ?
 
This will probably allow them to focus on the individual games in greater detail, so we should get more info out of this than if everything was crammed into a 60-minute conference and later we had to hunt for hands-on impressions for more details.

Still, I will miss the hype so much:-(
Would be awesome if they are preparing directs for each game
 
I love Nintendo Direct events but E3 is THE EVENT.

Huge mistake, I think. The atmosphere and lead up to a static video presentation won't feel the same as the countdown timer leading into a giant open area with crowd noise.
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.
 
Are you kidding? These games are bigger than any other game, they'll get media just fine.

The media is just loving the WiiU just now. I can't pick up a newspaper or turn on the TV without seeing the WiiU splashed all over it. Pop songs are constantly mentioning the WiiU in their lyrics. Characters in hit TV shows are constantly talking about the WiiU.

Whenever I go out into the street all I ever hear people talking about is the WiiU. Constantly yammering on about it. I see teenage girls walking about with Iwata t-shirts and it drives me mad.

Finally I'd had enough and I said "STOP TALKING ABOUT THE WIIU' and which point an elderly lady turned to me and said '..., what about the Vita sonny?".

Damn these super successful systems are just killing me mang.

No one in the mainstream media cares about the WiiU. No. One.
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.

I don't think a lineup consisting of at least Mario 3D, Mario Kart and Smash Bros. can be considered weak. Add to that WW HD, X, etc. and it gets even stronger.
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.

Well compared to the competition, anything would feel weak next to new console offerings. Then again, we already knew that it would be like that for a while (though I don't think many of us expected them to drop their main press conference this year)

I'm disappointed myself, I enjoy watching these 'live' conferences but ah well. At least we're finding out just over a month in advance.
 
I love Nintendo Direct events but E3 is THE EVENT.

Huge mistake, I think. The atmosphere and lead up to a static video presentation won't feel the same as the countdown timer leading into a giant open area with crowd noise.

agree, but what about next year E3?, nintendo will be there right?
 
If I remember correctly, eShop (accounts for ~60% of views) and Nintendo homepage (not as a Youtube embed).
So mostly Nintendo fans see Nintendo Direct. No surprises there.

To make others understand what i am trying to say here. I am not a Nintendo or Ubisoft fan yet i watched their conference every year(Whenever they had one). This is because i don't miss a moment of E3 even if i have no interest in it.

If Nintendo will go for ND only, they will potentially lose viewers, that's for sure.

I hardly remember anything outside of a conference getting huge hype in the press at E3.
 
Why do you think Iwata cares about Internet fame ? What would you do in Iwatas shoes ?

Drop Iwata asks, drop Nintendo direct and make a copy of PS4, sell it at loss and expect 3rd parties to magicly flock around the system ?

They could have easily made a more power console and sell it at what they are selling the WiiU for.

Iwata went for the expensive gimmick instead and gimped the main console but that's for another thread.

Have you noticed in recent years you hear and see of miyamoto less? No one else within Nintendo has really been pushed as a face since apart from Iwata who pushes in everywhere in order to get his face on YouTube.

The evidence is striking.
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.

I'm pretty sure the media is going to go full graphics-whore for this E3; Nintendo will not do well in those comparisons. They don't need to have a 'weak' lineup for this to happen. They are just trying to differentiate themselves. No need to read anything in between the lines.
 
I don't think a lineup consisting of at least Mario 3D, Mario Kart and Smash Bros. can be considered weak to a hardcore Nintendo fan such as myself. Add to that WW HD, X, etc. and it gets even stronger to a hardcore Nintendo fans such as myself.

Fixed.
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.
After its all said and done I too wonder how we'll feel as a whole. I have a prediction but yea..

Dude you need to stop labeling people. Some people may not even want to participate in a thread that if they say something like that they are automatically labeled.
 
Going smaller and spreading media focus means they will ultimately get less exposure in the mainstream.


Sounds like a Nintendo idea if I've ever heard one.
 
Wait are you talking about Konami or Nintendo?

If Nintendo had games to show, they wouldn't be cancelling their E3 press conference.
Umm Nintendo's shown they do have games, if you didn't notice they announced a new Zelda and Yoshi's Island just last week. E3 material right there but they decided to show them now.
 
If Nintendo had games to show, they wouldn't be cancelling their E3 press conference.

Nintendo has games to show, and they said they will show them at E3. They will have a booth there to show the games off, just not a conference.

I don't think it is a good idea, but they do have games.
 
Wait are you talking about Konami or Nintendo?

If Nintendo had games to show, they wouldn't be cancelling their E3 press conference.

So Mario 3D, Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Yoshi Yarn, X, all the 3DS titles aren't games. Please, tell me what are those. Slices of bread, socks, pants, bottles...please, tell me what those things are if they're not games.
 
I don't think a lineup consisting of at least Mario 3D, Mario Kart and Smash Bros. can be considered weak. Add to that WW HD, X, etc. and it gets even stronger.
Too bad most of the game industry doesn't go gaga over the stuff like we Nintendo fans do. It's a big world when you take off the Nintendo glasses.
 
Seems like a missed opportunity at a time when they should really be doing whatever it takes to build some hype of their own in the face of Sony and MS pulling out their big guns. What concerns me more than the lack of a conference though is the fact that they intend on focusing mostly or entirely on stuff slated for this year. They'd better have a lot of surprises up their sleeve for the holidays, otherwise the Wii U is going to suffer yet another setback in how gamers perceive the future of their system, or the lack thereof. Given the doubt surrounding Wii U right not an E3 without at least a couple megatons would be complete poison for Nintendo.
 
Pretty much nailed it

Side A: Wow Nintendo is throwing in the towel, they are giving up/tapping out. They have nothing to show, too embarrassed to even try to compete with the other 2, going third party any day now. What a dumb move!

Side B: Wow this is a great idea! E3 is pointless anyway, Nintendo will kick ass through ND and smaller conferences, they do not want to embarrass the other 2 with their awesome games. What a smart move!


Of course neither are true, my only reaction is disappointment purely from a entertainment view. As i really love watching these each year, either they are awesome or they are so bad that they are awesome. Regardless i was always entertained one way or another, and Nintendo delivered plenty of that.

I think there is a bit of truth in both sides. I see myself going with Side A a bit more. Practically every big company has a convention to go to numerous times a year. Las Vegas (where I live) thrives off of this. The company I work for, insurance, participates in a huge insurance conference every single year (sometimes Vegas unfortunately, sometimes Chicago etc). Tons of people go, you eat, drink, talk shit about insurance, and give a big presentation along with all the other companies. Now, if my company decided to not do the huge presentation and only participate in closed door presentations, it would be the talk of the assholes at the convention. So, I question this move by Nintendo. It doesn't inspire much confidence, especially when the public is invited to see E3. If my company decided not to participate AND the public was witness....I imagine it would cause some concern.

This whole save money shit....again, every medium to large company goes to conventions every single year, it's part of doing business. This is the main gaming convention, there is no excuse not to fully participate
 
This move pretty much confirms that Nintendo is scared of Next-Gen announcements. They can not compete with them , especially with the media attention that the ps4 and xbox will get , so they purposely stay away from them. They don't want the WiiU to be compared to Ps4 or the new xbox.
 
Their last E3 presentation sucked, but it's going to be strange only having 2 major press conferences this year. I'm sure they'll be back next year with a presentation, but like others have mentioned; they could show a ton of new games during their presentation, but it would all be overshadowed by the PS4 and Xbox Infinity*. Next year when all 3 consoles have been on the market, I could see them going back to having a traditional major presentation.

*working title
 
Umm Nintendo's shown they do have games, if you didn't notice they announced a new Zelda and Yoshi's Island just last week. E3 material right there but they decided to show the now.

But do they have enough to fill a press conference? They would need maybe 8 games, spend about 8 mins on each, and full a little over an hour.

If they did, you could bet that they'd show them off in a conference. Everything we know doesn't make this seem likely however.
 
So once again, Nintendo is being gimped in order to satiate iwata's thirst for Internet glory.

E3 replaced by Nintendo Direct? Really?

What next? Ask Iwata becomes the only outlet for Nintendo interviews?

Iwata needs to be sorting shit out not fucking about on the Internet.

But that's wrong.

Iwata said:
There will be one closed event for American distributors, and we will hold another closed hands-on experience event, for mainly the Western gaming media. Also, I did not speak at last year’s presentation, and I am not planning to speak at these events at the E3 show this year either.

Straight from the briefing, and in the OP.
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.

I dont think their lineup is gonna be weak. I do think there's no way in hell they would have been able to compete against Sony and MS being all about new games for NEW hardware

so yeah probably smart
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.

Well, to me it's also a statement against where the industry is going.
MS and Sony conferences have been huge spots for Activision, EA, Ubisoft lately. Nintendo cannot compete on this field. Fair enough. Hence, they try a different approach.

I mean, even if Nintendo will have great games on E3, will the press care about Monolith's jRPG or the new Pokémon, when they have to cover the last AAAAAA title from EA?
 
Strong statement from Nintendo. It says to me that they don't feel that their lineup at E3 will be compared favorably to MS and Sony's offerings by the press, and so they are trying to artificially create a situation where they cannot be compared. If they feel their lineup is weak, I wonder what we'll feel after seeing it. Lol.

Since from the OP they are still trying to figure out how to convey this to the outside, we are only a month away and this is Nintendo we wont feel anything because we are not seeing anything. Its what happened with Vita last year and Sony response was "Well we had games on the floor and behind doors." Well thats nice and all but you are not conveying confidence in your product to consumers and third parties and depending on the press to talk about your games on the floor admist all the other shit going. Nothing about this is good news for Nintendo. Even if they do E3 demos for Wii U then yay for those who already own Wii Us, does jack shit for everyone else.
 
Too bad most of the game industry doesn't go gaga over the stuff like we Nintendo fans do. It's a big world when you take off the Nintendo glasses.


So how does a big conference announcing exactly the same games going to accomplish if no one else outside nintendo fans care??
 
Iwata: "and remember you can download the new Retro Studios game demo and X demo a few minutes before Microsoft and Sony's conference"

Download times would mean you'd probably be watching the conference while waiting for it to finish. Allowing preloading with a final unlock key could work, though.

This did lead me to a general marketing thought, not specific to Nintendo (indeed, probably a fairly unNintendo thing in general), but could be a really smart marketing tool: Playable Directs. Iwata talks to you, presents a game... and then you get to play a demo. On conclusion of the demo period, the next passage of video fires up, and continues. It would 'save your progress', so you could run demos again once the presentation is complete.
 
Seems to be Nintendo's thinking that if you can't beat them, shift gears and try a new approach.
Not sure if this is the smart move or not as Sony and Microsoft will be basking in the limelight with huge presentations.
 
This is great news.

I've never seen the point of these companies waiting until one day per-year to announce things.

It's much better to have lots of little ones through the year.
 
Too bad most of the game industry doesn't go gaga over the stuff like we Nintendo fans do. It's a big world when you take off the Nintendo glasses.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo's first party titles are generally well-received throughout the game industry. The Wii had some great first party titles, peaking in the Galaxy series. I don't remember those not getting enough media attention.

And I will never take off those fancy Nintendo glasses :)
 
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